keep staying positive, all your symptons are an excellant sign. i know you wanted to get off the drugs, but not long left now.... Your prog level hasnt decreased too much - dont read into it, it could mean nothing at all.. If the scientest says to keep going, then they must still believe you are in with a shot. I am hoping you will get your big fat positive (BFP ) this cycle...
The ivf cycle sounds like an incredible financial burden. And to ask this of us right before xmas is awful. Hubby is not keen - but I am soooo impatient to be pregnant I am willing to do anything if thats what it takes (Im sure you know how I feel). IUI with ivfa is $1250 (was like $900 but has gone up). Same deal, pay upfront, wait for procedure to be done before I get the invoice to take to medicare with the 80% rebate (still waiting for this cycles invoice). How much is iui with RWH? Oh, and what is this about charging for your hubby to sit beside you? Sounds like a major rip to me???
So what next for you OP? Another prog test soon?
Last edited by diamond; October 22nd, 2008 at 08:11 PM.
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I feel stupified to think that career women are so ignorant as to believe they should put off pregnancy to further their careers. What I have learned is that the older you get, the less you can control your fertility. Women spend most of their lives avoiding pregnancy, and they commonly believe once they decide to embrace it, it will just happen.
In my case, I never expected male infertility to thwart my intentions. I started looking for my husband when I was 31. I found him when I was just about to turn 37. Now we are 40. We only conceded this year that he is sterile. We lost so much time in the name of preserving his delicate male ego, my eggs are now ragged with age, and we have only a 5% chance of attaining a pregnancy with the help of a donor.
I do think the media is convinced women CHOOSE to put off starting a family. In my case, I dated over 250 men to find one good one. There simply aren't enough good men to meet the needs of all the good women who want to procreate. Instead of harping on about women putting off motherhood, maybe the media should start a concerted campaign to train men how to be good marriage prospects and good father potential?
My husband and I were talking about that $32 rip off last night. We had to meet with our specialist at the beginning of each cycle. It's essentially a strategy meeting, but for us there was nothing to strategise about. I ovulate with no difficulty, so all he could say to us was: "The last cycle didn't work. We'll do another cycle." He charged me $90 for this wisdom, and $32 for my husband to sit next to me and listen. We got $62.50 back from Medicare for me and $32 for my husband. But that specialist basically got $32 for letting my husband in the room. And yet by that stage, my husband's contribution was history .
In any case, another Pregnyl shot for me tomorrow. I'm going to ask for a pregnancy test on Monday when the next Pregnyl shot is due. If there's no pregnancy the period won't come while I'm on Pregnyl, so there has to be a point when they decide to knock it off.
The thing that makes me believe there is no pregnancy is that progesterone really has to double daily to prove a pregnancy. Same with Hcg. This isn't happening. That being said, I know people who have had negative pregnancy tests right up until their 5th month! So who knows...
Yes we are on daily messages. And to be honest, i am enjoying having someone to share my experience with. For so long now I have felt totally alone with my fears, thoughts and obsessions that this ttc business brings. And i don't feel like I fit in with the other LTTTC thread, as i do not understand the IVf lingo or even procedure yet. It really helps to have someone who is going through the same process. And I have learnt so much from you
Yes - I too read this article a few days ago. I think it almost unbelievable to think women are put their careers first. Surely a career will always be available right through to our 60's. Unfortunately not the same can be said about our fertility. I really feel for woman such as yourself, who hav always dreamed of being a mum, but life has taken them on a different path. And now the pressure of the ticking clock... A 5% chance is still a positive, that is still a great deal of hope for you.
I also read this article on a yahoo page: Crim checks for IVF couples 'abhorrent' - Yahoo!7 News
This absolutely infuriated me....
How are IVF parents more inclined to criminal activity as compared to non IVF parents? I completely agree with Prof Illingwirth's comment - ' this will only stigmatise IVF couples even further'. And check out the comment from srcourtney. This really had me going, my blood boiled for some time. Then i realised this person is obviously a total moron, and further comment will only upset me more. But what a terrible opinion the wider world has on IVF and IVF couples. And i agree this is due to the medias portrayal. i am 27, young in terms of IVF patients, but I am on the program for other issues, not age related. And I am not an exception, there are many others out there on IVF for endo, PCOS, unexplained, and many many other medical conditions where infertility is a part of the problem. i resent the sentiment 'that ivf is for those who have put their career first, and therefore deserve infertility' - how completely ignorant. Phew - better get off my soap box I am getting all revved up.
Thats incredible to charge for hubby to be there. incredibly insensitive. Im sorry your prog levels havent increased as you planned, but it is far too early days. Try not to talk yourself into a negative - as I have done many times. Hang in there until monday and hopefully you will have you bfp then. I am having my 1st pregnl shot for the month tonight - not looking forward to it. The things we have to do hey...
I tell you what, Diamond, I sure would like these whacky symptoms to add up to a BFP. Today the water from the cooler at work tastes like hospital disinfectant! Nobody else shares my opinion. :-D I would love THAT to mean something.
LTTTC people grasp at anything tho - I try so hard not to, but I can't help it. This month we had our IUI with the third midwife in our clinic. We kept saying to her "Maybe you've got the magic touch!"... We grasp at straws at times.
I don't really remember your back story. Could you remind me? Ours is simple: TTC 3yrs, male factor infertility, 1 IVF ICSI cycle, 2 failed xfers, and now our fourth IUI.
A couple of suggestions for you: include B6 and iron supplements in your vitamin regime. They have helped raise my prog levels in the past two months. I get Thompson's B6 from Go Vita, and the iron supplement in a little bottle with an orange cap from Priceline.
Good luck with your injection tonight! Tell them to plunge it slowly.
Well that sounds promising indeed. I know we clutch at straws, but we have to hope for something hey. Every twitch, every pain, and i think ' is this my baby?' But I am hoping and praying that this is it for you Op.
My story? Well, ttc since april 06 now, just over 2.5 years. Diagnosed with mild endo, 2 lap surgerys to remove, last surgery that could not remove it because of the position. But only mild endo, tubes are not blocked, cycle VERY regular but extremelly painful.Huddys count is very good. Not one positive test the whole time, except for the one last month. So, Dr Lahood at IVFA says that whilst it could be unexplained infertility, it could also be the endo. Hence the IUI path...
Thanks for your suggestion. I started taking the Natures Own pregnancy multivitamin when we got a positive at the end of the last cycle (which didnt stick around). It has everything in it, inc B group and iron. They have really helped pick me up especially when on the fsh injections.
Last edited by diamond; October 23rd, 2008 at 01:23 PM.
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1 x Nourishing flora probiotic - promote colonic health
2 x Bioceuticals InNatal - Pregnancy formula inc 500iul folate
3 x EPA DHA Fish Oil 1000iul strength - cell formation
1 x Thorntons Kelp - thyroid function which is key to hormone production
1 x Bioceauticals Zinc Sustain - cell formation
1 x Iron & Folate - blood vitality
1 x Thompsons B6 - luteal support
1 x Go Vita in house CoQ10 - cardiac health
1 x 1000mg Cenovis Vitamin C - immune system booster
1 x Bioceuticals Lipoic Acid - liver cleanser to help hormone production
All of this was prescribed by my naturopath, plus tonics but I stopped getting stuff from her early this year because it was sending me broke. The extra iron and folate plus the lipoic acid are the keys. Not sure if you've looked at how hormones are produced, but basically the pituitary talks to the thyroid which talks to the ovaries and together they get the job done. So anything that supports correct function is a good idea.
On the endo front - my girlfriend from high school produced two healthy children with it. While conception is not easy, I really believe any challenge can be over come - just reading the stories on this site proves it. Remember - in nature it would take the average couple 6-12 months to conceive. So I believe at least 6mths IUI is the bare minimum before moving to another treatment.
The problem for LTTTC people is the psychological impact. 12mths of natural approach destroyed our intimate relationship and has left my husband with performance anxiety (not permanent I hope). Even if we were biologically capable, psychologically the game was up some time ago. And to keep going that way would have cost us our marriage.
In any case, the metallic taste in my mouth is growing stronger as the day wear's on. It's an encouraging symptom.
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