persephone, I want to add that I can relate to so much of what you wrote!! Our sex life since LTTTC, IVF cycles, miscarriages, and another medical problems I have dealt with/am dealing with, has really suffered. The urge the desire is way down, not to mention we are both often stressed and tired. Like you said too, when we are on holidays together, our sex life and the desire seems to magically return, so stress obviously is playing a big role normally. We talk about it and sometimes get down about it too...then we make more of an effort for a while. It's true, if you try and make and effort sometimes you surprise yourself and actually do feel like it. Try not too feel too bad about it.