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  1. #1
    Registered User

    Jan 2008
    Brisbane - Chermside
    10

    Hello Everyone! I would love to hear from anyone who has any suggestions for toilet training a strong minded and determined 3year old little girl! My daughter Zoe is 3 in Feb and has no interest in toileting. She is utterly terrified of the toilet... wont go near the potty and is determined to stay in nappies...even to the extent of changing her own nappies to avoid me encouraging the use of the toilet! She says to me "I wear nappies, not undies" "I will not go toilet". I have been a childcare teacher for the past 5years and have always worked with the toddler age group (15mths - 2yrs)... most of my children at work were toilet trained by 2 1/2 or well on their way at least. I find it hard not to compare but its hard at times not to. Im beginning to become very frustrated with myself as I cant work together with Zoe on this, she just does not want to have a bar of any toilet talk.... and dont know where to go from this point.. I feel I have tried everything!
    Feeling a little hopeless right now... Help :-)

  2. #2
    Registered User

    Jun 2005
    Central Coast NSW
    54

    Unhappy ahhh I am home...

    Finally some people who will understand where I am at!
    My son was three in January. My DH decided he needed to be toilet trained even though he has never shown the slightest hint of knowing whether he is wet or dirty, despite my tricky substitute of the cheapest nappies you can get so he would feel the discomfort. We have been going through 6-8 pairs of pants each day for a week! We have Bob the Builder, Thomas etc...he doesn't care. When I say he should have gone to the toilet he just says 'yeah'.
    He is my fourth boy and all of them trained themselves, they told me they needed to go and that was pretty much it. I think this one was born without feeling in his nether regions. Even when he is dirty he will say "no I haven't done a poo" and try to run away when I want to change him. We too have tried rewards and his brothers tell him they go to the toilet, all big boys do. We have had the odd wee on the toilet but he still is surprised when he goes in his pants. He really has no idea!

  3. #3
    BellyBelly Member

    Feb 2007
    On the beautiful Gold Coast!
    1,930

    OH THANK GOODNESS i FOUND THIS THREAD!! My daughter will be 3 at the end of April & I'm due to have baby #2 in August. I REALLY wanted her toilet trained before #2 arrives as I've been told not to toilet train through "big events" (moving house, new baby etc)

    Practically all of the other kids we know DD's age (mothers group, ante-natal group etc) are all toilet trained & I feel like a bad mum when they see DD's still in nappies.

    People always take it upon themselves to be the proffessional & tell me that she should be toilet trained by now.

    My MIL is one of these, she has the best intentions honestly but when she's around while I change DD's pooey nappy she says "oh you dirty girl". So I try not to change nappies at their house (a bit hard when they babysit though!). I don't want DD to think pooing is "dirty", it's natural & everyone has to do it, it's just most people do it in the toilet. She can't help it that she's not toilet trained yet so she HAS TO do it in the nappy. I felt so sad for DD when MIL said that but I don't think DD heard her (thank goodness).

    I'm trying the toilet training again today. She does her wee then comes to me calling "Mummy, I done a wee wee". It's soooo frustrating!! & I even try the bribes but it just doesn't seem to work.

    I'm so glad I'm not alone when it comes to this problem but I do hope I can have her trained soon..... (for her sake as well as mine!)

  4. #4
    Registered User

    Nov 2007
    70

    Thank goodness I thought that my DD was getting way too old to be in nappies at 2 1/2 when all her cousins and friends are toilet trained. She will sit on the toilet (with a trainer seat), flush the toilet but will not do anything on the loo. She will stand up off the toilet to do anything...and will get really upset if I even try to put her back on. Have tried the knickers and she will just take them off. Am now expecting #2 in Nov and would desperately love to have her trained before then. I guess its a matter of patience and time but any hints welcome.

  5. #5
    Registered User

    May 2008
    east warburton, vic, australia
    13

    my daughter meredith who is almost 5 has been toilet trained during the day for over 18 months now all is going great with that, she has been dry over night for a little over 3 months now up till the last week when she has wet almost every night, what to do any ideas anyone

    also benson who is almost 3 has no interest in toilet training at all he loves wearing jocks but seems to have no idea at all when he needs the toilet i ave tried taking him every half hour or so and he does nothing and yet within 10 mins i can go check on him and he will be wet through are boys normally this hard cause meredith was so easy to train

  6. #6
    Registered User

    Nov 2006
    Atop the lookout...
    2,777

    Steph *seems* like she wants to use the toilet- she is always in there with me (mainly because she won't leave me in peace to go on my own ), and has recently started pulling her pants down or off entirely. Then when I ask her if she wants to do wees or poos she nods 'yes' (although she will nod yes to almost anything, even the silliest question or if she wants to be punished, so ). And yesterday she assembled her portable high chair (you know the ones that go on top of a normal chair), sat on it and wee'd. I only know that because it leaked out her nappy and all over the seat, and she had taken her pants off. And if she has done a poo, then she pats her nappy and makes the 'stinky' sound and hand signal.

    When she was a few months old I would put her on the potty, with varying degrees of success, but then it stopped (I forget why), so she knows what the potty is and isn't afraid of it. Nor is she afraid of the toilet, and I have one of those little seat inserts for her, which she is often picking up while I am in the loo and waiting until I stand up before she tries to put it on the toilet. She then pulls at her pants and nappy wanting to sit on the seat. I don't know if this is just her wanting to emulate me or actually do anything, as she has never wee'd or poo'd sitting on the loo that I can think of.

    With the warm weather here, I would love for her to be tt soon, and especially with a new baby due in the new year. (I know it takes more than just prayer to tt) I would also dearly love to be able to take her swimming and not have to worry about 'floaters' or anything else! Am I wanting this more for me, or Steph? Re-reading my post, it sounds like me!

    Any ideas? I know not to expect anything overnight, but I had her on the potty for months, routinely, and it didn't *seem* to do anything (except that she knows what the potty can be used for, aside from standing in!). Like Tobily's DD, I would put her on the potty before the bath, but she would just give me a grin, or get off because she wanted to be in the bath, and I can't force her to sit there. By the way, she is in disposables, I have a few cloth nappys, but no clips/pins, and don't understand or know how to use them, or if they need covers, or what?????

    I have read and re-read all the posts in this thread, but I still don't know what I should do.

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Jan 2008
    Brisbane
    16

    Hi all... Potty training is just so different for each and every one.... I found a great website called pottytraining.com.au an they have everything you need to help support both you and the littlies to make the whole thing a tad smoother.
    I have been putting DS on the potty from a very young age and found the transition to toilete seat easy, most kids have a toilet routine and it is knowing what each ones is so that you can get them on the toilet when they are actually ready to do wee's or poo's.
    We are still challenged with the pooing side of it as he prefers to do it in the bath, I think it has something to do with the angle of crouching which is actually very natural for the bowel movement, with wee's though he is now 22 months old and most times tells me that he needs to go. So we have been without daytime nappies for about 6 months and night time nappies for about 2 months.
    We used the reward system so by and by he has lots of matchbox cars as everytime he did a wee in the toilet he got a sticker and every 5 stickers a prize until it got to the point that the prizes were coming round too quickly as every wee was in the toilet.

    Anyway I found the website, the people that ran it and all the products fantastic and would recommend them to anyone.

    Good luck to those going through it and remember it's about training us as much as them..

    Angel

  8. #8
    Registered User

    Dec 2007
    Taking a ride on my grdonkey :D
    2,716

    Gah, thank God for this thread!! DD is just off the 18-month mark and I *know* she can be toilet trained now, it's just the logistics of it that have me stumped!
    I was sure she was ready to try a couple of months ago, because she was always taking her nappy off and could tell me when she'd done a poo, and she's always in the toilet with DH or I when we go so she knows what the deal is. She had no problems sitting on the potty and wiping herself with toilet paper or baby wipes, but she'd sit there, wipe herself, jump up and run off without doing anything, and then pee on the floor.

    We gave up after a week of accidents, figuring it just wasn't her time. But I really want to make a good go of it this time around, especially seeing as DD2 is due at the end of May and I don't want to be changing two sets of nappies!

    I gave it another go this morning - when I got her out of bed and changed her wet nappy, I popped a pair of 'knickies' on her and tried putting her on the potty every half hour or so. I was doing the dishes and she came up behind me with her hand on her bits, and I asked if she needed to pee - she nodded and ran for the potty, but then just sat there drinking some water and did nothing.
    I figured if I kept a close eye on her I could get her to the potty before she peed all over the floor, but for a good three hours - nothing. Then, I noticed a puddle on the floor and DD was hiding behind the curtains with a huge grin on her face, and a very wet pair of knickers on. I wonder if maybe she prefers to wet herself because it means she gets a quick shower to freshen up? And in DD's world, bathtime is second only to dinnertime on her list of favourite things.
    The other day a friend and I were sitting at the table having a coffee and DD dragged her potty to my feet, took her nappy off and sat down on it for a while, but again, nothing happened. I'm absolutely sure she's ready to be toilet trained, as she knows when she's doing pees and poos and hates wearing nappies, and loves sitting on her potty, but I just can't seem to get her to sit long enough to actually do anything!

    Any tips?

  9. #9
    Platinum Member. Love a friend xxx

    Jan 2008
    hoppers crossing
    2,380

    i have a 24 mth old son and we have decided to start potty training, day one is going strangly as my son thinks/ the potty is a shoe. He hates having a wet nappy on and takes his pants n nappy off so my DH decided it was time.(which a bit of influence i think) i dunno how he will go and im a bit scared

  10. #10
    Registered User

    Jan 2008
    Brisbane
    16

    Hey Beautiful Madness,
    I remember my first few toilet training days I thought I was going absolutely mad - we would be ready to go out having put him on the toilet etc and he would proceed to have an accident 3 or 4 times in a row before we walked out the door. It took a couple of weeks before we started to get into a routine and I am now so glad I stuck with it (after tears from me of thinking I was failing and getting no where) as he is 2 and has been toilet trained for well over 6 months during the day, the night times I chose to do a couple of months later as it is more about you being trained to make sure you take him at least 2 times after he goes to bed until he can get out and go all by himself.
    If you wanted some support and great tips and tools check out the pottytraining.com.au website. They sell all sorts from toilet seats to training charts.
    Good luck and stick with it

  11. #11
    Registered User

    Jan 2008
    Brisbane
    16

    Hi All,
    I just wanted to share for anyone that is tiolet training...Remember every child is different and will do it at their own pace.
    I myself did the very early potty association,(which I just realised I better get out for DS2) then the little seat on the big toilet, I've been through the changing umpteen times before you get out the door, I gave matchbox cars as the reward system,(got them all now so gotta find something else for DS2) my DS was out of daytime nappies by 18mths and nightime by 2..
    My biggest thing was realising that I was being trained as much as him...especially night time, I still take him to the toilet once during the night...Days we still have mishaps every now and then..Oh and he still sits on the toilet most times..When daddy comes to stay he stands sometimes on his feet and othertime sits.
    The website I found really really helpfull was pottytraining.com.au
    Good luck to one and all

  12. #12
    Registered User

    Mar 2010
    Victoria
    12

    Toilet training

    My daughter was very easy to toilet train initially. She basically did it herself at 2 and half which in my opinion is very early. She stopped wearing nappies at all times and stopped all 'accidents' by the age of 3. However, now she is 6 years old and for the entire 2009 year as a 5 year old she wet the bed at least 3 times a week.. We needed to get her pull ups and would take her to the toilet in the middle of the night to combat this. She has since stopped thankfully.

    What i'm trying to say it in some cases, toilet training too early can have negative affects.

  13. #13
    Platinum Member. Love a friend xxx

    Jan 2008
    hoppers crossing
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    i tried everything with my 3 and half year old.....but he just wasnt ready and in his own time he just decided to start going and he is great now.

    every kid is different, i learnt if u try everything and it doesnt work, they arent ready and just let them lead

  14. #14
    Registered User

    Nov 2006
    Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
    1,293

    my ds is 3, when he was about 2 he asked to use toiet a couple of times and then stoped. I have introduced it to him now, we have done rewards, we wear undies all the time during the day now but he won't tell me, I have to tell him to go.
    We have filled an entire reward chart and I've even caught him about to poo and got that in the toilet latley. I'm starting to feel like I will be telling him to go for ever and he is never going to tell me.
    I know he can do it he has told me on a couple of occasions, and it putting up less of a fight now but how long will I be doing this, I can't leave him alone while I do things around the house or feed dd etc in fear he is going to wee and I haven't got him there in time.

    he tells me he like haveing wet or dirty undies.

  15. #15
    Registered User

    Jun 2011
    brisbane
    29

    i tried toilet training my son and at first he would get up and sit on his seat onto of the big toilet and he would wee and then he had to flush and wash his hands,he is only 22 months lol. then he just stopped wanting to know altogether.when he sees me in there he still has to flush and wash his hands but whenever i put in on the toilet he gets really upset and begs to get down. will try again in a few months i think. winter wont help me either i dont think.

  16. #16
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Feb 2006
    melbourne
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    Re: Toilet training general chatter


  17. #17
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    Dec 2007
    Hork-Bajir Valley
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    Re: Toilet training general chatter

    Anyone else going through toilet training?

    Spock is now 19months, my first thought was she is too young, but she is showing so many ready signs. She is now telling me when she needs a new nappy, if it is wees or poo. She knows the pot and pretends sitting on it and making a 'ssss' sound. Same as the toilet, if I am on it she will watch and got 'SSS' and then point to her vagina and insist I take her nappy off so she can go toliet too. And she sits on it, makes the noise, gets paper to wipe and the flushes and washes her hands. If she is nudie rude and does a wee, she shows me and says 'ewes' and helps me clean it up. Everything except actually do a wee on the pot or toilet. Which I guess is the training part we need to do!
    Atm I'm just letting her go nappy free and see what happens. If she does a wee try and put her on the pot. But we only started this morning =p

  18. #18
    Registered User

    Sep 2011
    358

    Re: Toilet training general chatter

    I am trying to train my DS at the moment but have no clue what I am doing.

    He takes his nappy off when he is wet or pooy sometimes but won't tell me. He also refuses to wear his nappies but won't sit on the toilet and lastly he doesn't communicate if he has to go but runs away and hides if it is a poo...

    So I just put him in jocks and hope the sensation of being wet is helping him understand he that he is Weinberg and pooing and when that occurs he needs to go to the toilet.

    I can't use a potty as my boy is the size of a 4 yr old (over a metre tall) and doesn't fit on the potty but is a bit small for the regular toilet.

    TT40 - fingers cross things go well with your LO today.