I so hear you girls. I am having trouble with Kat still. She knows when she's done one. She tells me when she's "stinky" or when Jess is. But she still cannot release and i can't seem to help her know how to. I've tried the wee'ing on the loo (standing up so she can see me. I got cheered and clapped but no closer to her going). I've done the every 30 mins thing and she still manages to hold on till she's off and in knickers before doing it. She hates the feeling but she still wets her pants and not in the potty/toilet. Should I give up for a while? Jess on the other hand enjoys sitting on the potty. However she doesn't understand how to wee either. *sigh* Knowing my luck I will end up with 3 in nappies! AUGH!