Parenting after LT TTC #5

[TaRhLi.]

Hi Girls

Just wanting to say hello to you all as I have been seriously MIA..... but this teething thing is really trying for both Tara and me......

For her bottom 2 a few weeks back we had 2 bad days then the 1st tooth arrived, then a few days later we had 1 cranky day followed by a tooth, but boy these top ones are little buggars. I have pretty much had a whole week of a cranky miserable baby, clingy and crying at the drop of a hat and the top ones still haven't broken through. I can feel how tight her gums are and you can see the teeth just waiting to pop through but nothing yet.

It is becoming very exhausting as I have been having to take Tara out everyday to give her some form of entertainment cause if we are home she wants me to carry her all the time, but then if we are out she won't sleep. Take today for example.... up at 9am and after attempting to get her down at 11am for a nap (with no luck) we decided to go grocery shopping. Of course she feel asleep in the car 10 minutes from home but as soon as the car stopped she was awake again and we finally managed to get her to sleep at 4pm. So with being awake for 7 hours and teething symptoms as well we had one really "CRANKY" baby.

Anyway, I'm going to go and put my feet up as I am shattered as well.

[onthefly]

Green that is really tough. It's worse when you're working too as you've no time to catch up. Does your DH help out at night? It could be a cold/illness that causing the current trouble. You'll find, no matter what (sleep school etc) that if there's an underlying reason like that for crappy sleep nothing will help till that problem resolves itself. Hope things settle soon for you.
But hooray for missing the poos

Kelly have you tried a teethign necklace? Made a big difference for us. DS is a shocker when teething too.

Geez smithy?! We don't do christmas presents. Thank goodness. Of course the little 'uns still get stuff. You're right though, the paper (or box) is always the most exciting part!

Hope Jazzy is doing better Janie and you have some answers soon.

Hi everyone else!

[grub17]

hi girls,
been mia while my mum was visiting. it was lovely to see her and ash got spoilt.
saph - i got AF at 3 months and she's come every month since then! brh. i feel ripped off (ash is breastfed). I do find that bub feeds very poorly the week before my AF arrives, happened 3 times now but not sure if its the hormonal changes or just coincidence.

smithy - that is being ridiculously organised! lol. good on you!

kelly d- tell me about the teething!!! We have two teeth. One is all the way through - arrived fully last week and the other one popped out on Friday... he's not even 6 months yet! brh.

He's also sitting up - a bit unsteady but he's there and sort saying 'bubba' although it's mostly a whinging "bub-bub-bub-bubba'' and comes with a quivering bottom lip (naughty mummy and daddy laugh at him at that stage as its too cute).

still in the 25ht percentile for weight and 90ths for height and loves loves loves his solids. i think he would just keep eating if i kept offering, it's astonishing! mum reckons he's the neatest baby eater she's ever seen lol - why put food on your bib when it can be in your gob!

hi marceullus, green, poppy, boc, murph, janie, bg.
will try to be better on the persies next time.
ox

[Murph01]

Woweeee! So much to catch up on. I won't say I'm back, because I'm more just a visitor at the moment but aren't we all with these busy little babes.

Firstly, oh Janie, my heart is in my mouth every time you write about your Jazzy. We all know this could so easily happen to any of our babies and it really brings it home. You are being so brave and I know exactly what you mean about being "that" parent that doctors see coming. I think my name is known in medical circles all over Australia at the moment. I'm knocking on more doors than the Salvos You know you are right though and you are your child's best and only voice and advocate so don't give up (and I will take my own advice too!). I really hope your paed and new gp give you answers and solutions.

I can't manage much more than match stats on my little bundle of happiness so here I go. Well my jazzy is 7 and a bit months now and well she doesn't much care for rolling. She's been there, done it and really didn't think it was worth doing at this stage so moved on. She has two huge bottom teeth which make her smile just the most gorgeous thing I've ever seen (of course) and she is cutting her 3rd tooth, another bottom one and this time it's hell so I'm hearing what all the teething fuss is about this time round. The first came with barely much fanfare, although now in hindsight, I'm sure that's what made our car-trip down to K.I so difficult at the time, cos those teeth arrived as soon as we got here. She is sitting up totally unassisted and it's funny to think that I look back on photos as "the lying down era". 7 months is absolutley awesome!!!! Andy and I are just loving life with her so much.

I'm doing all the wrong things and I really don't care. Do you get the feeling that I'm a bit worn down and over it. well I honestly just want to be a MUM. I just spent last week in burnout mode, which I have to do every few years and pull the shutters on the world and lock myself up in the house (yep slightly agrophobic, but only slightly). I just returned from melbourne after taking jazz for her MRI and CTs which were under anaesthetic, so slightly emotional time with flying alone and the procedure etc. Now I'm waiting for results and still no word. Jazz had her first cold, plus a sore throat from the tube down it and she cut a new tooth while in Melbourne. At least I was staying with my mum so we weren't alone deal;ing with it and apart from the obvious yucky bits, we had a great time.

Some of you know when you feed and have all your routines, that's what i mean by I'm doing it all wrong. jazz sets her own routines and it's not worth trying to break her out of them. If she wants to open her eyes as big as saucers and laugh at me when I put her down, there is nothing i can do to get her there, so I have to just laugh with her and try again another time. I can't be bothered getting hung up on things too much. I loooooove a bit of structure and when she does have any routine, it's all about her body clock, not because of what I do. I rock, I feed, i co-sleep and if she's not ready for bed, so be it, we play or wind down quietly. Whatever it takes and whatever works. Haha, I'm a rebel. I'm with you Poppyfairy, I've gone form Jazz sleeping 12 hours straight through, to now being lucky if she sleeps for 2 hours at night without a feed, so without co-sleeping, I couldn't function. It breaks my back as she follows the milktruck round and if it moves, so does she. Daddy is quite safe with 2/3 of the bed to himself but we both love it and laugh about it and he just loves that jazz is sooooo bonded to me. He had no bond with his mum, she is just one of those strange mums by name only.

Anyway, of course there's so much to say, but that'll do for now.

Seeya,
ange

[onthefly]

Sounds like you're doing everything perfectly Murph!

[Murph01]

Thanks Marcellus. I'm lucky because my DH and I are totally in sync and I feel for the girls whose hubbies act like babies. A quote from my DH the other day: "there hasn't been a single day that having Jazzy hasn't been more amazing than I could have ever possibly imagined". We have literally been baby gazing for 7 months and I can't see it stopping any time soon.

I forgot what I wanted to tellyou all about Jazzy. Well, I have just learnt a new lesson for the day...Jazzy can remove lids off highlighter textas. You know how you sometimes just give them the things that seem safe just while they are right beside you, and they grab at everything. Well I set her up with a bunch of safe office "toys" and she was sitting at my feet and then I looked down and her face is covered withflouro green high lighter, as are her jarmies, her hands and the carpet. Oh dear...the first of many accidents, but a very cute one.

[grub17]

hi murph! i don't think there is 'right' or 'wrong' when it comes to bubs - just what works for you! i've recently decided to ditch the guilt trips i've been giving myself about various things in particular listening to my doc and starting ash on solids early (major guilt trip there). but cutting yourself some slack is so liberating and also looking at the bigger picture!

These babies are growing up too quick!

[saph204]

Murph as long as she is happy and you are happy you are doing everything right. I have always said as a mum you should listen to advise and then do what fits you. Xavier has no daytime routine and is a really crappy daytime sleeper and always has been. So I gave up trying to force him into a three sleep a day routine and he sleeps when he wants to sleep. In saying this we do have a fairly strict night bedtime routine but this stems from Campbell. Bed is at 7pm when nieghbours finishes, teeth story and bed. Campbell has been in a bed since he was fifteen months old and he has never gotten out of his bed. Even if he is not tired at 7 he goes to bed and just chats to his friends (teddies). Xavier has fallen into this routine as well and he sleeps from 7 til 9.30 when I dream feed him and then he sleeps til about 6.30-7.

It is hard to have to watch you little ones go through these procedures, we have been there with Campbell, you just have to soldier on and not let it get on top of you they are more relisient then we think. Campbell has had 2 barrium swollows, try getting a brest feed baby to drink chalk through a bottle. The only good thing was he had to fast so he was extremely hungrey and took it.

[barney]

awww big hugs to you murph,
it sounds to me that your doing everything right hun,your a wonderful mummy
being a mum is so dam hard sometimes,but omg the joys they bring to us,theres not a day goes by were im not laughing at charlie atm,and shes just the same ,we were in such a wonderful routine and thats just gone out the window now lol ,she was sleeping till 8am every day NOW 6.50am and im not happy jan lol..
was eating (well trying solids ) now couldnt give a bugger about them ,its amazing how they can change from one day to the next.so im the same now i just let her do what she wants really shes the boss and i think she knows that lol..
so you hang in there girl friend ,keep up your wonderful work and enjoy every second with that beautiful girl of yours and pls give your self a break hun ,we do the best job we can on the day

so anyways girls i hope you all have a great day,its a lovely warm day here today so im washing all bed sheets (i hate remaking the beds lol) and im going to clean the chooks pen out yipee gee im exciting lol BUT guess what did i tell you all the chooks are laying eggs now ...well they are and we now had 3 eggs
had a bit of a word to the farmer yesterday from next door,his a real ****er,but anyway pmsl..
take care girls ,love to you all and also your beautiful little kiddies

[Loveinamist]

Hey Murph! Yep I am with you! I am doing everything wrong too!! LOL! But I sat and thought about it and I thought that half of the things we sometimes feel pressured to do are not 'lifetime' skills. Daytime napping in a cot for example, by two they are out of a cot and by five they are at preschool or like here in the UK at school all day with no naps. So why the big fight to get them to settle in a cot? DS naps on me, in the sling, in the carseat and sometimes on our bed (most times with me napping beside him!!) He may sleep for 15 minutes or an hour...if he wakes up happy then it must have been enough for him. Night time sleeps are different. He will need to be able to go to sleep at night as he has to do that for the rest of his life. So we do have a routine for that. But it does involve me feeding him to sleep. But I figure that other mums are using dummies or rocking or some other tool to get them to sleep so what is so bad about him getting his favourite thing as his sleep association? Going to sleep is meant to feel good isn't it? We cosleep with a cot sidecarred to our bed. He starts off in that for about two hours before we go to bed. Then at his first feed he comes in with us. I think he feeds about twice in the night....I have no idea...I am asleep for a lot of it!!! I LOVE cosleeping. Love waking up and snuggling in the morning. Love when you stir slightly and see their little golden head sleeping soundly and contentedly beside you!!! LOVE breastfeeding lying down and we both drop off to sleep and stay in a cuddle for alot of the night. Although my SPD is coming back so I sometimes wake in a bit of pain from sleeping on my side too much but I take a few paracetamol and it helps and I am going to see a physio so hopefully that will help. Anyway the crux of it is I have no idea when DS naps, I have no idea when he feeds. Even his nighttime routine depends on what we are doing.....there have been a few nights lately where because of our committments with our new vegetable allotments we have been to evening meetings and get togethers and he has slept in the sling in the pub or wherever till midnight!! LOL While we can do that with only one child we will!!
Anyway everytime I feel a pang when I read something about what a 'normal' 4 month old does or hear people talkiing about putting their LOs down for a two hour nap in their cot, I just think 'there are millions of babies around the world now who have never seen a cot, live in a one room house which probably doesn't have a clock in it to record their naps, but they still manage to function as children and adults eventually!!!' And even in 'first world' countries the attitude is different. In fact an Italian lady who we met in the pub the other night responded beautifully to someone's protest to us that 'isn't it past his bedtime' when they saw DS asleep in his sling. She said 'bedtimes are for adults, babies sleep whenever and wherever!!' Love it!!!!!

[Greenslw]

Murph :Hug: hope you're out in the sun today sounds like you're doing things just perfect for you and yours and you can't do anything else.

Hi Grub, Sithy, Poppy, Marcellus, Boc, Kelly and all

Just wanted to share a minor miricle Linc slept 5.15pm to wait for it da da dum 3.45am! although DH and I both got up to check him He didn't sleep much yesterday at Aunty's 2x20mins and 1 45! got home guzzeled a bottle shower with DH and SLEEP! Week two of work is blah but I'm getting a plan in order. I wonder if I could get a nanny for the mornings! LOL nice thought anyways. It seams just 8-10am is my issue, and Linc's most unsettled time.


Cold here today but pretty sun is making all the grass glissen and sparkle I do love winter. (for a while)

[saph204]

Poppy I am with you, we have a nighttime routine which really is a cuddle and bed a 7pm. But during the day he is all over the place and I have given up trying to do a routine. He sleeps when he wants to or not as he is today. I have a friend who is trying to force her newborn into a very structured routine of you will feed now because it is time and you will sleep now because the routine says you will, I have had to back away because it doesnt work for me. I hear you about the back pain. I slept with X this morning and I feel like a cripple today. But then my pelvis is so bad again that I an back in the brace that I used whilst I was preg.

[saph204]

Just need to have a little brag. Xavier sept from 8pm til 6.10 this morning. Yay

[grub17]

oh saph that's wonderful although i'm hugely jealous!
just discovered a 3rd tooth coming through... one of the top fangs!!! his 2nd one isn't even all the way through yet, and i thought the front 2 came next! should i be worried? see someone? He's only 6 months next friday, at this rate he'll have a head full of teeth by 8 months!

[Lenny]

Just need to have a little brag. Xavier sept from 8pm til 6.10 this morning. Yay

Shaddup you!

I am soooo jealous. Master A is 5 months and I'm lucky if we get away with only being woken ywice at night. Usually it's 3 times! Ahhh, sleep...you are a fond memory

I wouldn't worry about teeth grub. Some children get them all really early and some take forever. I heard that your children's teeth (and when they come through etc) is roughly the same as your own. Do you know if yours came early?

[briggsy's girl]

Shaddup you!

I am soooo jealous. Master A is 5 months and I'm lucky if we get away with only being woken ywice at night. Usually it's 3 times! Ahhh, sleep...you are a fond memory

I wouldn't worry about teeth grub. Some children get them all really early and some take forever. I heard that your children's teeth (and when they come through etc) is roughly the same as your own. Do you know if yours came early?

i WISH miss E teethed like me! i had no issues - mum never knew i was teething! E is pretty good, but she loses it completely when it gets bad - and is then inconsolable!
and bah - she is over 12 months, and cos of teething, we're still getting at least two wake ups during the night

am reading but not posting much - i tend to read while feeding, and it's hard to reply while holding E (she wiggles too much now) - esp at the moment - dislocated my wrist five times in three days. it's something that has been happening over half my life, but this is the worst it's happened in the last several years and is being made worse cos i can't just put it in a sling and retire it like i need to - i have to look after E!

[onthefly]

We spent our first night away from litle A teh other night - he slept 11.5 hours straight. lucky granma! He sill wakes up most nights. 2-3 times a night is good at 5 months Lenny! Or it was for A anyway

Do'nt worry grub, they get their teeth when adn in whichever order they come. Would be good to get then over with quickly, though.

Oh, have to tell you, A is a man now. He keeps telling us 'me a man'. Not sure where this came from.

ETA - me too BG. I slept through from 4 weeks and mum never knew I was teething till they apperaed. NOT like A at all.

[TaRhLi.]

Big hello to all my girls. I'm still here and still sane but geez this teething is going from bad to worse.

Marcellus: I've got a teething necklace for Tara, but find it hard to us as she has such many folds around her neck the necklace keeps getting stuck and cuts into her skin. I think I'll have to hold off using until maybe the big back teeth start to come through (ie: when she has lost soem of the chubby folds around her neck).

Grub: Yay for Ash, I hope he is coping better than we are....

I so want these top teeth to come through..... we are now getting the horrid nappies as well as the grumpiness... yesterday we had 4 dirty nappies and I've already had 2 this morning as well. She must have the clearest system around now.......

Anyway better get moving, little miss cranly is sleeping at the moment so that's mummy's que to get some housework done.