Poppy I am with you, we have a nighttime routine which really is a cuddle and bed a 7pm. But during the day he is all over the place and I have given up trying to do a routine. He sleeps when he wants to or not as he is today. I have a friend who is trying to force her newborn into a very structured routine of you will feed now because it is time and you will sleep now because the routine says you will, I have had to back away because it doesnt work for me. I hear you about the back pain. I slept with X this morning and I feel like a cripple today. But then my pelvis is so bad again that I an back in the brace that I used whilst I was preg.