Pregnancy after LT TTC #12

[juniper76]

Paula, any pain will be temporary. The joy your baby girl brings will be forever. Fear of pain seems normal to me and no doubt I'll be the same when I get to that stage! I was scared of how painful the recovery would be after my lap. I did everything I could to prepare and in the end it wasn't as bad as expected. It did hurt, but I barely used the pain meds (panadeine forte and voltaren) they sent home with me from the hospital because it was tolerable without them. I guess my point is that I used the fear to motivate me to prepare things beforehand so that I had an easier time when recovering.

Gotta go. Just found out the report-from-hell is preventing me from taking a day off tomorrow as planned (again) and I'm really p*ssed off now...

[Leabie]

Hi all you beautiful ladies!

Thanks Paula, Brunette & Renee for your input on bras - I'm a 14D so found the same problem with the underwires Renee. Luckily I found some comfy ones the other day at Target - 2 for $35! I'm stoked, as the ones at Myer were $45 each and not nearly as comfortable. I'm slightly concerned about a lot of the mono-boob bras out there though, where they make 2 BBs merge into 1?! Tried a couple of them on, oh my god, I looked like my nanna!

LondonMiss - am dead pleased that you stood up to that OB! Way to go Hopefully she'll think twice about dismissing another patient so easily. Its a pet hate of mine, doctors that don't listen to their patients... had a doc tell me once that I had wind and I should take De-Gas, when I actually had endo and PCOS, don't get me started Fantastic news that the fibroids aren't in the way of anything. Hope time is not ticking away too slowly for you... I'm sure it is, though! One thing is for certain, that baby WILL come out.

Paula - I'm already having fears about 2 things - tearing, and having to have an epidural. The former is understandable I guess (although I'll be doing everything I can to prevent it!), as for the epi - I've always had issues about needles and spines, makes my teeth go all tingly with fear! I've just had a girlfriend become dreadfully sick from a botched epidural too - spinal fluid leak, headaches from the leak, infection when they tried to fix the leak, on and on - she ended up back in hospital twice in the last week. So I'll be doing everything I can to avoid having an epidural, I reckon. (Ask me though when I'm in labour, could be another story...) Sounds like you are enjoying the last days/weeks of your pg, how wonderful! You sound radiant.

Renee - that's no good that MS is still hanging around! You poor chook. Good that you can get a few days of eating in though, before the next bout. it'll pass soon. Had some friends who lost their MS around 16-18 weeks. And yay for your belly popping out! Envious, I'm still just looking fat KWYM about not being able to take advantage of the sales, we're not finding out either, and have soooo much stuff that people are lining up to give us (both boy and girl stuff), we don't need a thing! D'oh.

Juniper - BOO to the Report from Hell ruining your day off! That sucks. Hope you have a nice relaxing weekend to make up for it.

Hi to YogiBear, wantbaby, Brunette, and all that I've missed, hope you're all cooking away nicely!

AFM - not much to report, all seems to be going well. The cat is well and truly out of the bag now in terms of announcing our pg, have had a few messages from people who've heard it 2nd hand and are miffed we haven't called them! God, the pressure starts early, doesn't it?! Waiting for my belly to pop, some days its bigger than others, and I get excited, then it goes back in a bit, and I just look fat again. Ah well, soon I'll be whingeing that its in the way, so I can't complain!

Have a lovely weekend all. Must away and attend to our lamb shanks that we're having for dinner... yum...

[Yogi Bear]

Hello everyone, hope all are well

LondonMiss - how bl00dy annoying that doc!! But great news that all is ok and the fibroids are not going to cause a prob, thank goodness. If there is only one thing i have learnt from this whole ivf/ttc business over the years it is to not put all trust in one doctor and to definitely trust your own instincts. Its certainly made me stronger to stand up and voice concerns to doctors, especially when they think "they know it all"!!

Leabie - must be so exciting telling people about your pg now...i cant wait to feel confident enough to announce it to the world. Although I think i will hold off on telling immediate family for a good while into 2nd trimester as they haven't been very supportive of our journey over the years and we feel they just dont deserve to celebrate in our good news for a while (does that sound selfish?)

i am feeling reallllllllly happpy at the moment, i had another bt today and hcg has shot up to over 13 000 (it was 1340 last thurs) so am feeling a little bit more confident about this pg ...well, for now anyway, i am sure i will still worry!! Only 5 more sleeps til the 7wk scan next tues and am still praying to the almighty powers above that we see a healthy little heartbeat

If only we had a crystal ball to check if things will be ok?!!

Have a lovely night ladies, big hi to you all xxx

[wantbaby#2]

Paula~ Talk about being scared? I just got home from my LAST ob app.My time and date is booked for sure now for my c section next friday and ihave my admission forms,zantac(to reduce stomach acids) and antibacterial shower wash.Im ready to go and now that i am im sh****ng myself!! My dh kept looking at me and holding my hand all the way home and questioned me regarding being nervous.....i told him that the baby can stay where she is as i am too scared of the actual surgery.I know i have had one before but i also had a negative experience with it all.
I need to do some serious meditation and relaxation techniques from now til then...hopefully i will relax.

Yogi Bear~Thats great news about your hcg levels.FX your scan goes well xx


Leabie~ I have a stack of $12-$15 bras from Kmart that have been great so far.Im only small but my cup size went from an a to a c so finding 10c is hard but the brand is Bub2b.
Its good finding some that arent too expensive.I stopped wearing underwires since the very beginning and put one on for a little lift last week and OMG they hurt! Im not sure i can ever feel comfortable in a underwire again.

Everyone else...belly rubs to all and wishing you all the best.
AFM,i had my final...yes,final appointment today.Bub is lying head down but on her side and is not engaged at all.She is resting with her head slightly on my left hip....crazy!!
It seems i have babies that dont know how to engage!! My son never engaged either!! Anyhow i have my instructions,shower gel and zantac tabs and am booked in for next friday at 7am.Im soooo nervous.Im excited too,but still nervous. Dh and i have been arguing about having his parents there that afternoon.I dont want them there til the saturday but as im having my mum bring our son in,he thinks its unfair.Problem is,i dont get along with them that much.They arent emotional,caring,sensitive people and like someone else just mentioned above,never really supported our IVF journey,never asked about it or offered any assistance whereas my mum,(who is my best friend) was there every step of the way.I told dh several times how i feel and he tells me tonight at the app,that he couldnt say no to his dad as he will be down in sydnet=y for work that day and wants to come and meet his grandchild.Im so upset about it.I mentioned to dh that i was particularly uncomfortable with his dad being there as i will be recovering from a c section,will have a catheter in til sat morning,trying to breastfeed AND will probably be soaking through several pads!! He doesnt get it!! My dad died when i was young and i still wouldnt even want my OWN father to see me like that! I feel mean but cant get over it.Any ideas??? maybe i should run away and have the baby in the forest where no one can find me til IM ready to show my "exposed" self???
Well thats my whinge.Will keep you all updated.x0x0x

[LondonMiss]

Wantbaby2 - I'm sorry to hear your dramas. It's funny isn't it how your body is assumed to be a bit more public property than before isn't it. I think it's perfectly reasonable for your inlaws to want to see the baby and for your husband to want to show him/ her off. What's not reasonable is them not making the mental leap of how that might make you feel at that early stage. I don't think I want to get my boobs out in front of my male relations full stop - I didn't last week so why would I next week? I think you should tell DH to take the baby to his father if there is a waiting room or something, there normally seems to be a sort of general area, and leave you be for an hour. If the baby needs feeding in that time, well sorry grandpa, time for him to go and get you all a coffee whilst you at least get a chance to cover up with numerous muslins and stuff. I'm assuming the catheter kind of comes out under the bed clothes, and attachs to the bed? So it shouldn't be too embarrassing hopefully?

Yogi Bear - no, perfectly reasonable! LTTTC does make you more selfish, but I think that it's a natural instinct and not a bad thing. You are focused on the outcome and results, everyone else isn't. I'd enjoy the secret whilst you can and lie about your due date....and leabie, peoples reactions to such things tell you so much about them. I was telling my neighbour yesterday about photos and stuff and told her they would be all on facebook (with two international families, you have to!) and she said, but I can't use facebook and more to the point didn't want to be shown. My father in law is the same, he wants me to "just post a few pics from time to time". But I can hazard a guess on where getting them separately printed out photos and taking them to the postoffice with ID to send to the UK, filling in customs forms etc, is going to be when I have a new born, and its just in the list below washing nappies! You just do things the way you are doing them, and if people choose to be wierd/ precious/ self centred then so be it. I'm explaining some of my actions, and why, and if people still choose to do things the way they do them, then the one thing this journey has taught me is that I can't do anything about that, and more to the point, I've got better things to be doing than worrying about their inflexibility.

On the subject of bras, I have found the Elle McPherson ones the best, firstly because they are lovely and look as sexy as a normal bra, and don't just feel like udder carriers like some of the plainer ones. Secondly because they have 6 rows of hooks and eyes, so if like me, your actual boobs are not varying too much, but the size of your back has, they are great because you don't need to buy a new one. They are more expensive, but I recommend buying at least one for 'date nights' or wearing out.

D day and DHs blackberry informs us that we're having a baby today between 8.30 and 9, as it's 8.24 I'd better get ready for 6 minutes of dramatic action!! x

[juniper76]

D day and DHs blackberry informs us that we're having a baby today between 8.30 and 9, as it's 8.24 I'd better get ready for 6 minutes of dramatic action!! x

How did the 6 minutes of dramatic action go?

[LondonMiss]

Bugger all: I am going to be the worlds first lifetime pregnant person. At least I will make lots of money in sponsorship and get to eat lots of cake.

[juniper76]

LondonMiss, I swear, if our friends and family are anything to go by, the normal duration of a pregnancy is 41 weeks. We've known very few people who delivered on time or early. Most of them have been induced at a week late. Lol, "lifetime pregnant" isn't an option. Bub has just about outgrown that living space already!!

ETA: Damn! Now I want cake... :P

[Brunette]

Paula, I think it's totally normal to be scared about labour. Fear of the unknown has got to be the worst, I reckon. The labour sections of books are the only sections I haven't been able to read, because I don't even want to think about it yet!

LM, Good for you on standing up to your OB. I thought it was hilarious how the more you said it was up to her, the more she panicked and finally sent you off for a scan. Good news that the fibroids aren't in the way. D-day today, huh? As others have said, lifetime PG just ain't an option. FX not long to go now.

Wantbaby2, It's a shame your DH doesn't get that you aren't up to seeing everyone straight after having a CS. I've already schooled my DP that if I need to have a CS (my OB says it's 75% likely that I will have too) then he has to be the "gatekeeper" and tell people when we are ready for visitors, and I doubt that will be when I'm in hospital recovering. We're thinking of saying just my mum and MIL, because quite frankly I don't think anything will be able to keep my mum away LOL. I totally hear you on not wanting people there other than your mum who has supported your entire journey. Maybe DH will come around, and if not then LM's suggestion is a good one I think.

Hi to YogiBear, Leabie, Juniper, CK, Renee and all the other ladies that I've missed due to my "placenta brain" as my cousin calls it

[Yogi Bear]

Just wondering if LondonMiss has seen any movement today?....oh how exciting, cant wait to hear the good news!

[*Paula*]

Juniper you are right. The pain will all be worth it when you think about the joy these little ones are going to bring us all.
leabie i too have a family friend who suffered severe migraines from an epidural for two week starting from the very next day after delivery. She couldnt even lift her head off her pillow to look after her baby. So scary.
Yogi Bear great news on your BT. Only 4 more sleeps till your scan. Scans are always so exciting!
wantbaby#2 Yay on being all booked in but i can only imagine how scared you must be feeling. Having a set date and time and also knowing exactly what to expect as you have been through it before must be very scary indeed. Im sure you will do great. I wish i was having my baby next Friday. My in-laws have been overseas for the past 6 weeks and get back next Saturday and i have been praying that my baby would be born whilst they arent here as they havent really called to check in on me and havent really been as excited as what my parents have been towards my pregnancy. When they left for their holiday they just turned to me and said "if anything happens, good luck with it!" I do get along with them but they are just those sort of people that can be very insensitive at times and really tick me off... i cant even really explain it to be honest. So to be able to say "You werent even here for the birth of your granddaughter" would be very satisfying. Geez i sound horrible but there is just lots of history there.
LondonMiss i have a feeling your baby will be here sooner than you think. Cant wait to read your announcement!

Feeling a heavy kind of feeling on my cervix when i walk around. Hopefully that means that bubs head is still in place as i have been feeling pokes in the centre now too not just on my left side which is making me think she may have moved. Looking forward to seeing the Obs on Monday to see what he says.

[CK77]

Yeah I second what YogiBear said...... LM, how's things going? One of my sisters was telling me that she was about a week early for all three of her babies, so I'm hoping that I'm going to buck the trend of first babies being late and follow in big sis's footsteps as I do NOT want a Christmas baby!!

Leabie, I'm currently thinking that when the time comes for me to decide on pain relief, I'll hopefully only ask for some gas - at least then I can feel when I need to push rather than the epidural where you lose sensation and get told when to push. But who knows, when push comes to shove I might cave and ask for every drug they've got!!

WantBaby#2, sorry that DH isn't coming around. I agree with LM, see if DH can take bub out to the in-laws... but then again maybe on the day you'll want to show off bub and will be okay with them ducking into the room for a quick visit with grandchild.

Re bras, I've only grown a few centimetres and appear to still be fitting into my existing bras. As mine don't hurt I'm still in underwires, although as my boobs are now touching my belly the underwire is starting to rub a bit on the top of my belly. My belly starts to pop from right under my BBs, I think everyone's belly kind of sits differently (as What to Expect informs me!) at this early stage.

Still haven't felt bub move yet, although last Friday I had a kind of gurgle thing happen and I coudn't put my finger on what it was, so possibly that might have been baby, possibly wind - ha ha!
Brunette, how are you going with double trouble, any movement yet?

So, Planning & Management Fee - it's due soon, it's $1900. A friend is only being charged $1200 and a friend of hers is paying $3000 apparently!! Is this not a set fee?

I grabbed a Kiddopotamus SwaddleMe on Ebay today, around $10, then after winning the auction realised it was light blue. bugger. I guess it doesn't matter too much, they're only sleeping in it. (unless of course I end up having a boy then it's all good!). Hmmm, may be spending too much time on Ebay lately.... gotta go, Ebay item ending soon!!!

Take care ladies, belly rubs and back massages to all (yes, it's starting to throb, do I have another 22 weeks of this???)
Have a great relaxing weekend.

Chrissy

[LondonMiss]

sorry - still here! Had a superb induction massage earlier and had two or three contractions (I think) and then it's all bloody stopped GRRRRRR. My arse was like a pin cushion with needles in it, and the massage was amazing, one of the best I've ever had. She said that starting the contractions is no more difficult than "open your mind and your @@@@@ will follow"

so I'm off to think about my ***** : )

[glenny_c]

CK77- The management fee varies depending on doc. Basically you're paying their insurance indemnity- so the more the fee- the higher their insurance premiums (and usually the more claims have been made against them). I'm not saying that docs with higher fees are rubbish- claims can be made for a variety of reasons- not always doctor malpractice. $1900 is pretty good, that's what mine is. I've heard of docs charging up to 5K for theirs.

[MaggiePie]

Hi ladies, just thought I would drop in and introduce myself. I have been ttc #3 for 2 years and did a test yesterday and there was a very faint line - repeated today and there is a definate +ve!!!!
Yesterday I was panicking about the whole thing, today I am excited thinking finally this is really happening after all this time. Will make Drs appointment for this week. Am due in March.
Fingers crossed this one is very very sticky!

[KitKat72]

Hi All,

Haven't posted in a bit. First, a very late but hearty congrats to Lise and MITF on the births of your beautiful babies! Secondly, LondonMiss, I wish you the best of luck that your little one decides to come out soon -- and quickly!

Welcome to MaggiePie, and a big "hi" to everyone else.

What's new with me is that I had my nuchal scan last week and all, thankfully, was well. It's amazing how well developed they are already even so early along, and it's amazing how clear the scan is. The sonographer put it on 4D so I even got to see baby wriggling around for a while. I didn't realize that they do 4D at the early scans, so that was a nice surprise. Also, I finally get to meet my OB tomorrow. I hope I like him!

Hope you all have a nice rest of your weekend.

KitKat72

[Brunette]

Chrissy, I thought I hadn't had any movement yet but on another thread a lady who has already had one child said for your first it's normally not until 18 weeks that you feel movement. That said, she said it's easy to mistake movement for wind (hee hee), a pulse or little bubbles. I have had all of these so maybe movement? My DP reckons he felt a kick the other day - wants me to tell my mum that he felt the first kick, but I think he's just trying to wind me up! No, the OB fee varies depending on the doctor. I didn't know it depended on claims and indemnity insurance (thanks GlennyC). My OB fee is $1600. I have read of others being $3000. It sucks because it used to be covered by Medicare and you could claim 80% of your out-of-pocket if you had reached the extended Medicare Safety Net, but thanks to Rudd he capped the fee and you can only get a little over $400 back! Sucks. Ebay sounds like fun. I had a friend visit today who refers to herself as Queen Ebay. She told me how many bargains there were to be had on Ebay. I must have a look at it soon.

AFM, I had a remedial massage today. It was great. My therapist recommends mandarin essential oil for minimising/preventing stretch marks. Must get me some of that. It smelt so nice.

KitKat, great news on your nuchal scan results. It is amazing to see how much the bub has developed in such a short time, isn't it? Hope you like your OB! Did you find out your baby's gender at your scan? If not, are you planning to at your morph scan?

Hi Paula, keep us informed as to what your OB says at your appointment tomorrow. Bubs wouldn't be engaged already, would she?

Hi and welcome Maggie.

[KitKat72]

Ah, Brunette, I did not realize they could tell the gender that early! And funny, I was wondering about that since the images were so clear -- but for some dumb reason I didn't ask (I guess b/c I was under the impression it was too early), and I believe the radiology place's policy is not to mention it even if they see something unless you ask. Drats -- because while I know that a lot of people want it to be a surprise, my DH and I actually do want to find out. I guess now I'll have to wait another 6 weeks until the morph scan! Oh well . . .

PS. And funnily, after I e-mailed one of the 4D videos to my mom, she asked, "Did they tell you it's a boy? Because it looks like a boy . . ." and I told her it was too early, so she said she must have been confusing the umbilical cord for the boy bits. Funny, b/c I saw some things that I thought were boy bits too, but assumed they couldn't be that visible that early! Now I'm wondering!