Thanks everyone.

I think my issues is they play sports, all year round, they have done cricket, football, soccer, karate you name it and yet there is still NO confidence what so ever.

Mum knows there are issues as i have asked before about the conversation skills, now it's getting a bit more.. i mean peeing on the seat at 12 & 14?
Will see what she says.. i love them to bits, they are my brothers and no matter what i know it's fine for them to be who they are and unique etc but i just want to make sure there are no other issues.