Trying to Conceive after Loss or Miscarriage ~ June 08 #2

[plc1805]

Oh joey honey welcome - so sorry for your loss my sweet. Feel free to say anything you feel in here without judgement - your feelings are real and i'm sure we can each identify with a lot of them. No need to feel ignorant - EDD is Estimated Delivery Date. No doubt you will have one too. I hope we can make you feel as comfortable as you need to be and that your stay is short before you are UTD (up the duff!) again PS. Even tho I am UTD, I do find it very hard to leave this thread - the enormity of feeling I felt TTC is still very fresh in my mind and I feel everyone's pain as if it were indeed me currently going thru it.

Acria - how you described your 1st m/c EDD was just incredible!!
Tina - I must admit we didn't do anything at either of our EDD's - I think we may have even missed the the exact date. We just commented at around the time of each one how life would have been a lot different around now had things worked out differently. I think that by the 1st EDD i had already had the 2nd m/c and it was getting all confusing about the feelings of the first from the 2nd. I think too that we were so focussed on just getting pg that we were always looking forward rather then backward. Everyone is different and copes with these things in different ways. I pray ul get thru urs ok.

Jen - ok - there are 2.2lbs per kg. So I think i put on around 26lb with DS so your 24lb is about there if not even better! Oh we'll have you talkin' kilos in no time!!!!

Hey vanaithi, pbstar, mollycat, and everyone else - big big big hugs!!

[Easha]

Hi All,

Joey sorry for your loss, please visit regularly and tell us how you aare going, we have all been through what your going through

Has anyone had really weird cycles lately. AF sort of arrived Wed night and then I commenced using tampons/pads etc and they kept coming out lily white..... nothing. Then today more so cause it was driving me mental I checked myself and there is definately blood there but it is not like a normal AF. I am usually clock work??

I get to the point where I think maybe I should do a test but then I see another minute drop of blood

This is sooo weird - any suggestions? What's going on??

Sorry if I have grossed anyone out

[~ Mylitta ~]

I'm going to try to be quick because I have to go beddy-bies! I have to work tomorrow *groan*...

Acria - Nice to see you back hun. I was beginning to wonder where you had gotten to. I hope your trying to distracting yourself from the tww is working!
Also, I have two fantastic pamphlets at work that are about renting and pets. One is designed to give to landlords to help them decide to let you have a pet when renting. I was amazed how good the pamphlet was when they arrived. If you would like me to send you a copy of each please feel free to pm me with your address And I promise I won't stalk you... Wagga Wagga is waaaaaaay to far. I prefer to stalk the locals

Jen - I'm hoping that you had one helluva implantation dip!!! I can't even tell you how hard I am hoping for you that this is YOUR cycle and that AF is not coming for at least the next 9 months!

Mollycat - So glad the tamoxifen hasn't made you too sick. I get headaches quite a bit (my chiro is a great help though) so I can totally sympathise with you. I hope they stop soon

pbstar - Which acupuncturist are you seeing? I wonder if it's the same one I was seeing. Mine was great and she was really lovely. I just found it hard to fit appointments in my work schedule, and now that I've cut my hours back I worry about spending too much money. I'm trying to balance things, lol.
Oh! And my advise it to have a teaspoon of honey on standby when you drink the herbs (they are soooooooooooo disgusting!). The honey is a godsend!

Tina - Your "fertile time" weekend is a brilliant idea! Take some lovely scented candles with you to really set the mood

Vanaithi - I hope you are sleeping better sweetness. Insomnia is a biatch!

Joey - You've defintely found the right place! The ladies in here were amazing supportive when I lost my little angel. I felt like I didn't belong anywhere, but these girls certainly changed my mind very quickly. Everyone is very understanding and comforting because we've all been through something similar, and while all women grieve differently, we can at least appreciate each others emotions and give support where needed.
Are you hoping to start TTC again straight away? My obstetrician recommended waiting 2 cycles, but my DH and I decided to try straight away. Unfortunately I didn't fall pregnant on my first cycle, but we're giving it all we've got this month.
Just remember that it can take your body time to get back into it's normal cycle. You will probably still have hcg in your blood which suppresses ovulation, so until your hcg level reduces to a pretty low level your cycle won't start again. It took me 4-5 weeks, but can differ person to person, and can depend on how far into your pregnancy you were.
If you are hoping to TTC again straight away, then I hope that your body recovers quickly and your stay in this thread is short due to conceiving a little miracle!

Easha - Sorry to hear your cycle is playing funnybuggers. If you're unsure, then maybe just do a test for peace of mind. The worst that can happen is that you waste the cost of a test. But just imagine if it comes up positive!


As for me, I thought I was over this illness and it came back with avengence yesterday afternoon! It started with the sneezes and has progressed into a stuffy nose, sore neck, cough and headaches today. I think the stupid germs regrouped and have launched a second attack. I hope my immune system slaps them around a bit and scares them off quickly!!

[pbstar]

hi everyone

welcome joey- i am sure you will find the comfort and support here that you need, and we never get over all the baby talk like our DH's do so you've come to the right place!

easha- not sure what is going on with your cycle- i would probably test if i was you just to make sure, i have heard of spotting in early preg around the time AF would be due so maybe that's it?

KL- sorry to hear you're not well. I am going to see Lily Liu (in Sydney)- am guessing yours was in Victoria? not looking forward to drinking herbs but you gotta do what you gotta do! will definitely take your advice on the honey though

acria- good luck with the house hunting and well done for staying so sane this TWW!

big and for everyone else, hope you all have a great weekend

[tina_k]

easha: your so strong not to have tested yet! good luck when you do:goodluck2:

Krystielove: ooh, the scented candles are a lovely idea, thank you

joey, welcome, i hope your stay here is short. Everone here is so wonderful and supportive.
I m/c'd in december and have been ttc since then....still no luck for us, but praying that this months our month...

Acria, thank you for sharing, that sounds very special for you. Im not sure what well do yet.....

[joey123]

Hi everyone,

Thanks so much for the lovely welcome.

Arcia - That's such a beautiful idea how you spent your EDD. I had never even thought of doing something like that. Perhaps as it got closer we would've started thinking about it - I guess I'm still in the early stages and soooo far away from our EDD (20/02/09) it hadn't crossed my mind. I'm sure we'll be doing something now though.

plc1805 - congratulations on being UTD . I am so happy for you!! It is such an exciting time!!

Easha - I think you should POAS! I too have heard about spotting when AF is due. I think it's something about when the egg implants, you may see some spotting. An exciting time, can't wait to hear your results!
And as for grosing anyone out ... I doubt it - not me anyway. I think that's quite tame to some of the stuff I'm expecting to read / discuss on this site.

Tina - have an awesome weekend away. That's such a romantic idea. How lovely.

KrystieLove - I was hoping to TTC this month. AF has just left. But the Dr said I should wait a month to increase my chances on the next one sticking. So I SUPPOSE I had better do that. Don't want to increase my chances of feeling miserable, and crying all the time . It's been very much like a roller coaster. Even from the first day I was up and down. Then the days got better, unless someone came to comfort me, which actually made it worse; but the mornings were hard. Didn't want to get out of bed. Felt a bit like 'what's the point'. I'm a year 5 teacher and I really love my job, but didn't want to go to school at all. I had smsed my principal and told her the news and asked her to share it around so everyone knew by the time I got back. Even though I was only 5.5 wks when I m/c, everyone knew I was UTD cause I was so excited about it. Even my class knew. So she also went and told my kids and said to ask her if they had any questions as it may upset me, having to talk about it. They have been fantastic, and my first day back at school was ok, once I shed a few quiet tears with my back turned. I felt like I just wanted to hug them all. I hadn't realised that I had missed them till I was back. So that was a lovely feeling. But then the next day, a teacher who had just had a DS was bringing him in to show off. It was very hard to get out of bed that day. And I didn't go and see her when she arrived. I was on play ground duty and saw her carry him into one of the rooms and immediately started bawling. Thank goodness for sunnies (and a really big oval to walk around on)!! I would have loved to go and see him, but just couldn't.

ANYWAY, I'm feeling better now, and as each day passes I get a little bit better. The fact that it's the weekend helps!! Yay! It seems talking to close family and friends I have no problem, but when those who aren't so close come to say sorry, I bawl. Makes no sense! Don't suppose it has to though. My DH had a couple of rough days, no tears shed though. But he pretty much seems to be over it already. I suppose cause he didn't carry the little one inside and talk to it all day long - even though it was only just over 1mm long!!

On the day of my m/c the hospital did a FBC and said that my hGC was at 45 (very low supposedly for 5.5wks). That was on the Saturday. Then on the Monday, it was at 8, Wednesday at 3, and I'm due for another test today. The dr says I should keep going until I get 2 negative results. It sounds like it's dropping pretty fast to me, so I hope I get my cycle back asap.

KrystieLove, I really hope you get a BFP this month. Fingers crossed for you. And I hope you are feeling well soon. Lots of freshly squeezed OJ (there's a job for DH) and lots of water for you!!

Tina K - Good luck with your TTC. Hope this month's a lucky one for you.

Thanks again everyone for the huge support and welcome. Thanks to you all, I feel like I belong already.

Have an awesome weekend to all of you and good luck if your TTC this month. to all of you.

Take care,
Joey

[Easha]

Thanks all for your support,

Joey hugs to you... those first few weeks/months are tough... I did not leave my house for a week and when I did all I saw around me were babies and Pg women. For me their was some relief as I suppose I wasn't actually pregnant - blighted ovum - I had started spoting at 12 wks so the GP sent me for the ultrasound and there was no baby only a the PG sac. Now I worry - I can fall pg but not with a baby (does that make any sense)

It has been confirmed I am not PG so will have to regroup and move on - cycle back in full swing.

Does anyone follow their lunar phase throughout their cycle. I have been doing a lot of reading and although it sounds a bit crazy it can't hurt to TTC twice a month. My lunar peak falls tomorrow so we will have a go

Hope your all have a good weekend

[joey123]

Easha - Bugger!! I really thought you would get a BFP. I have read a little about lunar cycles but not enough to know what i am talking about. Give it a go though, what harm can be done!

Good luck with your BDing tomorrow! Sending some your way!!


Joey x

[tina_k]

easha: im so sorry to hear that AF has come.
There are a few ladies in here that know alot about the Lunar cycle thingy, its worth a try!
And Easha, I had a blighted ovum too, and i dont feel that it was any less a pregnancy than any other. In our hearts and minds there was a baby in there..and its no less painful than any other either...and also fyi, just because you have had a blighted ovum once does not increase your chances at all of having another...good luck next month

[nicjay]

Joey - Hi and welcome Waiting that month is the most horrible thing, the support here is great though and I hope your stay is short.

Easha - Hi and welcome to you too Sorry about the BFN. I have had very erratic cycles since my m/c last October. I'm not sure it is normal for them to last as long as mine have, but I think it is pretty common for a few months following the m/c. Good luck for your new cycle.

KL - Sorry to hear you are sick I know how you feel (well maybe not totally, but you know what I mean!)

Acria - Welcome back and this is your cycle!

jen - Have fun camping and hope the lap top works for you! I know my DH is always swearing at his when he tries to get is to work from anywhere else besides work LOL so here's hoping you have better luck!

Tina - The trip away sounds lovely. Hope you have a nice time IYKWIM

Mollycat - Glad to hear the Tamoxifen is not treating you too badly. Good luck.

Sorry for the miserable attempt at personals but a big hi to everyone I have missed, hope you are all well.

AFM - Sorry to have been so scarce here over the last week or so, but I am still battling this cold (thanks a lot DD!!) and now I have a sinus infection too grrrr. I have just been way too sick to do anything but a small post in the IUI thread Anyway, I am now 8 DPO and still waiting and hoping being so sick has not decreased our chances at all - does anyone know if being sick in the TWW means you are less likely to get pg? My prog was 63 this cycle though (the best I have ever had) so at least it looks like everything else is looking good for this cycle. I'm not really sure when AF is due with my mental cycles, but the clinic reckons Fri 27th and I have to go in for a BT if she doesn't arrives by the 30th. Fingers crossed!

[~ Mylitta ~]

pbstar - Yep, my acupuncturist was in Melburne, but she travels quite a bit to sydney to see clients up there as well. Her name is Carolina Gonzales. She has a long waiting list for your first appointment as well, but after I saw her once is was easier to make regular appointments, so hopefully yours is like that too.

Easha- I totally agree with Tina. A blighted ovum is just as much a pregnancy in my eyes. I found out that I had lost my angel at 8w1d and my obstetrician was unable to tell me if it was a silent miscarriage or a blighted ovum. But he was very quick to tell me that in either case there was a baby that got far enough along in it's little life to implant into my uterus. He told me that he was about 99% sure that the baby didn't survive due to a chromosomal problem and that there is nothing I could have done to change things. I take heart in knowing that I now know that I can fall pregnant, and I'm sure that my next bubba with be healthy and happy.
I don't know how much faith I have in the Jonas Theory / Lunar Conception stuff, but hey, it doesn't hurt to try to increase your chances of conception!!

Joey - I'm glad your hcg level is falling so quickly. Mine was pretty high when I had my d&c and it was still at 101 three weeks afterwards. I don't think there is anything wrong with starting to TTC again this month as long as you feel emotionally ready and that you are aware that there is a slightly higher chance of miscarriage. My ob told me that my uterus lining might not get thick enough in the first cycle, but when he did an internal ultrasound he found a wonderfully thick lining already. Ten he admitted that he's had patients who had given birth and fallen pregnant in the first couple of months after the birth, and even they had sticky bubs that went to full term! You have to do what feels right for you

I hope everyone else is having a lovely weekend. I'm working today (lunch break) and am working again tomorrow night. But then I get Mon and Tues off work, yay!!

Adios!

[jenushka]

Hello ladies!

Sorry I've been absent lately - had a pretty busy week with some travel to Sydney for work and then had my in-laws stay last night. Finally I have some time to myself - aaahhh! I have been keeping up with reading all the posts, just haven't had time to write. This post will be a quick one too as ds is just starting to wake up from his nap...

Hello and welcome joey - I am so sorry to hear of your loss As the other ladies have said it really is the best place to come and chat and vent, and take some of the burden off our poor dh's (mine was supportive, but there's only so much he can say really). I hope the wait to ttc again is gentle on you. And I notice you are a brisvegas girl too - northside or southside?

I'm doing well, about 5.5 weeks now and getting some lovely strong symptoms (v.v.v. sore bb's and nipples - sorry if tmi! - nauseus most of the time, heartburn, dizzy, frequent weeing). Still no word on if I can get my early scan brought forward from 16 July. If I haven't heard anything by the end of next week I'll give them a call. I haven't felt the need to use any of my spare hcg bt referrals but they're a lovely security blanket. Am not quite ready yet to move on to paml if that's ok - probably won't be until after my first ob appt and everything looks ok (with my last pg, thats when we found out bub didn't have a h/b). So I'll be hanging around for another little while yet

Better go, ds is winding it up a notch! and and to you all - hope you're having a lovely weekend...

[Where there's hope]

A quick "heeeelllllloooooo" to everyone of you here. I am sorry I have not posted for a few days (did a big long one but lost it a couple of days back).
Just want to spread lots of and to all of you.

A belated to Joey. As I am already sure you are finding out, this website is full of wonderful supportive ladies. I hope it helps you as is has for me.

MegsMum - i have been unwell during the 2WW and have the exact same question!

Jen and Vanaithi - your charts look FANTASTIC.! for both of you

Sorry this is so short. Have a great weekend everyone x

[joey123]

Hi all,

Jenushka - Thanks for the welcome and congrats on your BFP. It's so wonderful to be hear and hear exciting news like that. At least if I'm not UTD I can live through others until I am. This forum is such a fantastic idea!! I'm on the northside at Hamilton. You? It's great to see that you have heaps of symptoms. I'm no doctor, but it sounds positive to me .

KL - Thanks for the info about your hCG, and the REASON behind why I am expected to wait a month. I feel emotionally ready and feel confident to TTC this month, but I know if we m/c again I would beat myself up for not waiting - so best to do the sensible thing - for a change - a just wait. It's amazing how this stuff takes over your life!!

MegsMum - Hi. Thanks for the welcome. Look forward to seeing you around a bit. Hope you are feeling better soon. I can't imagine that a cold/flu would affect your chances of getting preg. If your CM is right and you BDed on the right day, it's just your white blood cells (I think) that are affected in a cold, so there should be no problem in the sperm finding the egg and still implanting. I'm no Dr, but just an educated guess. Good luck!! :goodluck2:

Easha - I can't beleive that anyone would think that a blighted ovum is any less of a preg than another. You still think about your baby all day (and night) long, think of names, etc, so it's just as hard I'm sure. I don't really know what my m/c was. Had a flow of bleeding, went to the hospital, internal and external ultrasound found nothing. So who knows?? Hope this month doesn't last too long for you.

to everyone.

[joey123]

Where there's hope - Thanks for the welcome. I look forward to chatting with you soon.

[~ Mylitta ~]

megsmum - Nooooo not a sinus infection! They are the worst. They give shocking headaches too I hope you get over it quickly!
I'm not sure if being sick had hinder conception... But I'm worried about it too. I keep thinking about how your immune system can fight a baby, and if your immune system is already on alert would it attack the baby?! OMG, now I'm probably just freaking us sickies all out for absolutely no reason Let's kill my theory by all getting pregnant this cycle!!!

WTH - Good to see you haven't disappeared on us!!

Joey - Mine and DH's intention was to wait... But then we just couldn't and we started trying straight away, hehe. Didn't work for us the 1st cycle, but I'm convinced this is going to be the one!

Vanaithi - Your chart is still looking really good!

Jen - I'm guessing you wireless internet on your laptop is not working? Damn! How am I meant to be stalking your chart when your not able to update it for me?! I hope you packed your thermometer missy! And I also hope your having a ball


Here's the list again. I've noticed that sometimes the days might be slightly out due to us living in different countries, but I'll try to keep it as accurate as possible. If there are any mistakes or if you want me to take you off the list, just let me know

Jodsan - CD3
Easha - CD3
Issy - CD6
Smilanatu - CD7
pbstar - CD7
Mollycat - CD8
Joey - CD8
Toccara - CD9
Tina - CD9
Abbey - CD11
KrystieLove - CD13
Sandygirl - CD15
Angel Babies - CD16
Acria - CD22 (not sure how many DPO you are sorry!)

Bettyboop - 5DPO?
megsmum - 8DPO?
Jen - 10DPO
WTH - 10DPO
Vanaithi - 12DPO
LizJessie - 15DPO


Jenushska - 5w5d
Laura - 6w2d
AJC - 8w5d
Mel A - 8w4d
mmteacher- 9w6d
Canary - 10w2d
plc - 11w
Katiegirl - 20w
Nickster - BFP 21+wks


Kittens - Sorry not sure hun...
SaraJane - Well we'll just have to wait and see...


I think I'm going to ovulate tomorrow! Wheee! DH and I are BDing so much it'll be a wonder if the poor little eggy doesn't drown! Oops, soooooo TMI!

[jen805]

And you all thought you wouldn't be hearing from me, didn't you? Tried to read through most of the posts, but still have to go back and read a little more thoroughly before I do any personals. We're actually already home--it was sooooo hot out at the lake (110 deg.) that my younger DS got heat stroke, so we packed up 3 days early. It's just as hot here at home, though--when we pulled up my truck said 107!!! I actually got the laptop to work before we left, but had trouble finding service at the lake. Trust me, we drove to the top of the highest hills trying to get a signal--I even climbed a slide in a weak attempt, but no luck. I'll have to add that to the addicted list! I'm SO looking forward to reading all your posts--thanks for missing me--you have NO idea how traumatic it was for me without you all! Will be back in a little while with personals.

Oh, but Krystie, I did remember my thermometer--mama didn't raise no fool! Will add my temps in a few, as well. Can't wait to hear from you all!!!

[mollycat]

good morning to all

Jen - glad to see you home safe and sound, shame you had to cut your holiday short, is DS ok? Tell the truth, it's actually your addiction to BB that sent you home early lol isn't it?

Hello to everyone else i've just been called to empty out the new bathroom so DH can paint it. So i'll pop back in later.
Krystielove - your list looks great.