TTCALC-if you have the texbook 28 day cycle it would be 14 days BEFORE next AF but i use to be the texbook 28-29 day and i always O'd on day 11-12 now my cycle is 29-30 days and i O around day 13-15 so they say work out when your next AF is due and it should be 12-14 before AF you should O but as all of us know anything can change stress and illness can delay O so it's best to chart your cycle and use OPK's of some sort sorry i can't be any more help.

Kitfaerie-I am a bit sad maybe i have reached the stage where i am ready to say enough is enough i know technically we have only tried for 3 months but after 12 months of all this i just don't have much left in me i feel like if we make the choice to stop then i wont get hurt when it doesnt happen deep down inside i feel my baby days are done.
But i supose you feel the same after months of this.


MissK-sorry you are having such a hard time lately i know how you feel.
And about the CM i'm not much help i don't get any i just get very watery around 3 days before i O then nothing the rest of my cycle it's a pain i use to get the perfect ewcm when i was younger and heaps of it now nothing.

Murrycod-you are still with us good to hear from you and it sounds like you have a plan.

AFM-I felt a bit queasy for two days and light headed i had two days of period like cramping and felt so cranky and teary didnt want DH to touch me and have no desire for sex which is soooooo unlike me i just don't feel myself but i know i am not pregnant my boobs are sore but that is no different than any other month so basically i have no clue i wish i was one of these women who get MS straight away or the porno boobs some sign anything but no i just feel the same hormonal sooky self when AF is due i am sick of it just want to be pregnant and get to the CVS testing so we can know if it will be ok.