Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss May 2007

[Sharon19270]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SALTPRINCESS & BEKZ

megsmum hope that you do O tonight and that those little spermies are trying to catch that eggie as we speak.
Bun the not testing is driving me nuts. Glad to hear that you are feeling more +ve now that you are on the clomid and that you haven't had any of the side effects, good luck with your blood tests.
saltprincess I have this feeling that if my temp goes up in the morning there is every chance that I may test, I just can't hold out any longer LOL. Hope you get better soon.
kbowman that is what the spotting looked like, pink ewcm although the cm was stretchy, it was not AS stretchy as real ewcm, so maybe I am in with a chance still, I will wait and see what my temps do tomorrow, if they have another dip then I am going to assume that AF is on her way.
jenjams I really hope that it isn't an early AF for you, that would suck, maybe it is implantation spotting.
satya I hope it is good news for both of us in the next couple of days.

[satya]

Selfish post today. No good news at this end. AF arrived this morning.... it's light bleeding but I'm sure it's AF. 24 day cycle instead of my usual 28. I get my CD21 tests back today, along with a host of other things she tested for, so maybe a possible cause could be given to me today. I'm pretty sure my hormones are out of whack as two cycles with full on symptoms in week 3 surely have to be caused by too much of a particular hormone. Will post later on after my doctor's visit.

[Lee]

Satya - bugger it. If it is AF, then I'm going out in sympathy with you. I'm hoping your doctor's results can shed some light and assist you achieve your dream really really SOON!!

My AF is the absolute heaviest I've ever had, so much so it kept me awake lastnight and I'm not game to venture far today. Yuck yuck yuck.

Thinking of you Satya and hugs.

Sharon - have you tested yet?????????????????????????????? You are so strong!!!!!!!!!!!

Lee xo

[Sharon19270]

Good morning ladies

satya I am so sorry that AF showed up for you, that sucks, hopefully your bt will enlighten you (your dr) as to what is going on with your body, so good luck.
Lee my last AF was like that, a complete shocker, I can't ever remember bleeding that heavy before, only after giving birth. I actually caved this morning and tested (see my results below), couldn't stand the suspense any more especially since my temp went up and at this point in my cycle it never goes up.

Wellllllllllllll, I tested this morning and I am certain I can see the faintest of second lines and it was definitely there before 5 mins where up. I have had no more spotting since lunchtime yesterday. I am going to wait another couple of days before testing again, or then again maybe not since I do still have 3 more LC sensitive hpt's.

I am feeling a bit scared though, scared that my eyes are playing tricks on me, scared that it may be another chemical like last time, scared that I am pg, and scared of getting too attached just in case I lose this one. But in saying all of that I am still feeling excited.

[Lee]

Sharon - this is an EXCITING turn of events!! A faint line is still indeed a LINE. I guess you'll need to wait until AF is a couple of days late to be sure to be sure! But, it's looking very very wonderful, and I'm quietly confident that all will be perfect.

Do keep us posted!!!!!!

Lee xo

[Heybacko]

Hi everyone

Happy belated Birthday to Salt & BekZ

Satya - sorry to hear the old cow has turned up again, let's hope the tests show up something if they can

Amanda - I have decided your wicked AF is a big clear out to get you ready for your honeymoon bubs!!! As my DH will testify, I am always right!!!

Sharon - said it before and will say it again - LEND ME YOUR WILLPOWER!!

Salt - hope the cold is getting better and that you don't O until you feel you can 'do it justice' so to speak!!!!

Jenjams - hope this doesn't turn into AF for you - Sharon's right, it may be implantation bleeding??

Megsmum - won't be thinking of you tonight, IYKWIM!!

Herbie - sending you big hugs and hoping the break does the trick for you

Hi to anyone I have missed, hope this will be the month/cycle for you

Have been MIA myself for a while as it was my wedding anniversary on Saturday and then, of course, Mother's Day on Sunday. Both lovely days but couldn't get out of my head I should either have had a 4 mth old, or else been 5 months pg - tried not to dwell on it but made me a bit sad.

Well.... I am fairly sure I O'd on 5th May as had loads of EWCM for a few days - does anyone know whether you can get EWCM if your hCG hasn't come down low enough to O, or does the EWCM mean you are def. Oing??? If it's the latter, then I am in the TWW and 10dpo - AF due on Saturday, so trying not to test until it won't be a waste of test/money!!! I am awful at waiting for anything, so watch this space for news of my willpower (ie lack of, Sharon!!)

Alex
xx

[Heybacko]

Sharon - said it before and will say it again - LEND ME YOUR WILLPOWER!!

Oops, was posting out the same time!!!

YAY - yes indeedy, a line is a line, though of course understand your fears from last month.

Keep us informed!!!

[Sharon19270]

Lee thanks for the positive thoughts, and I will definitely be keeping everyone updated
Heybacko I always only intended on making it to 12 dpo without testing since I tested at 9 dpo last time which in hindsight I know was just too early. You can be strong too, just repeat after me "do not test early, do not test early, I am strong, I can do it" LOL I have my for you though.

[Bun]

Sharon - woohoo on the faint BFP! I know exactly how you are feeling - it's so scary worrying that it could turn out to be a chemical pg or could miscarry again or could not actually be a positive at all. My brain goes through the same process, but just remember that it could also be the sticky baby you have been waiting for! In fact, it is more likely to be a sticky baby than anything else!!! I am glad that you are feeling excited!!

Salt & Bekz - happy birthday for yesterday! I hope you both had a great day. Salt - hope you are feeling better today, it's not good at all being sick on your birthday. I hope you O soon - I hate that wait, esp when O usually happens late. Sorry your mothers day wasn't that great - I guess it really rubs it in. I tried not to think about it at all on mothers day and was too busy anyway cooking for my family, but it would have been hard if I had had to see my BIL and SIL and their new bub. Luckily I managed to escape that.

Lee - sorry AF is being so bad to you. Hopefully she will leave soon!

Satya - sorry about AF arriving early. Let us know how your dr appointment goes - hopefully they will have some answers for you and sort out whatever is happening and get you a healthy bub asap!!

jen - you could just be having an implantation bleed. I have never had one so don't know exactly what it would be like, but it certainly sounds as if that could be it, and it would be about the right time. It is not over yet!!!

Deb - thanks for your kind words. I have an issue with seeing pg women and babies these days - it makes me sad! My brain tells me 'That will never be you', so I usually avoid those images! Maybe I should try to re-wire my brain or something and try to see those images as something positive. I am really trying to get a more positive attitude, and some days it works, and some days it doesn't. It is just so frustrating that the women who are being treated have a diagnosed condition to treat and fix the problem. As my specialist hasn't found anything, he won't treat me with anything to fix it, so I just feel so helpless. I know the chances of it working out next time are good, but my brain just can't seem to process that information! And I really, really don't want to end up in the recurrent m/c category, but I am so close already that I am terrified of losing another one. I am so glad things are going well for you this time, and hope to hear of a happy and healthy nine months for you!!

[satya]

Hi everyone,

Lee - your AF sounds awful - you poor thing. Thanks for the hugs - sending them right back at you.

Sharon - that's sounding good - afterall I faint line is still a line - here's hoping it gets darker next time you test.

Heybacko - well done on Oing.



Just back from the gp and I'm a mess. She's referred me on to the reproductive biology unit at Monash at Nottinghill. Apart from the fact that we've been trying for a year & because of my age I don't really understand why. I can barely stop crying.

I was so ill prepared for getting my AF this time that I don't even have tampons or proper pads in the house - not one single one. How stupid is that. I'm making do with some pretty serious liners until I can stop crying enough to get to the shops.

She told me that I had Od but not very well. My progesterone level was at 32 and the notes on the results say that a result of 20 means that there is normal corpus luteum function so I just don't understand why 32 is not high enough. I only realised this after I left the surgery otherwise I would have asked.

She also said my estrogen level is too high. It was 543 & it's noted that it is high but I don't get why it is considered high when the normal range is up to 1134 in the luteal phase. I just don't get it.

The thought of going to a FS again is really scary. I hated it last time and I was in a much better state of mind then than I am now.

My DF is dragging me out of the house in the hope of cheering me up now, I don't think it's going to work.

[Herbie]

HI guys,
Thanks for all the kind words & hugs.
Satya-big :hugs: to you
Lee-I amhearing you on the heavy stuff. My AF has never been so heavy until I have my m/c, it is horrible I know. Do you have cramping as well?
Sorry no personals, I am trying to keep up to date with you all though

sending lots of and also to those with

Herbie
xx

[maz]

YAY Sharon - a faint line is a line....how exciting!!!!!!!! so totally over the moon for you.
Satya - if I lived near ya honey I'd go tot he shops for you. Cry your heart out mate and just use some flannels in the means time as they say ' its better out then in'
Bun - I wish I could just give you a big hug. Please dont bottle up your feelings, let them out. You poor chicken..f%%%%!
Lee - Soory AF is being such a cow for ya. I hope next month brings better news.
Alex...ohhhhhh I dont know how your not testing...It owuld be eating me up inside. I wanna know now!!!!!
Jen - its not over until the fat lady sings honey....you still could be UTD
HI ya everyone else - hope your all being positive a can be (no egg throwing at Maz please)
Ive been sick as a dog with the flue and only really had slight m/s today. Kids have all been sick so havent had much time to think for me. Im booking in my scan for the 6th of June- I think I'll be around 7 - 8 weeks by then so feel abit safer about having 'dildo cam' if needed. Still not really thinking aobut being pg to much cause im scared that I'll get to excited and i'll m/c again. We're damed if we do and damed if we dont. All this stupid stress! I thoughts it might have been easier once I got my BFP but NOOOOOOO im so scared to do certain things incase I start to bleed. Happy thoughts, happy thoughts
Ok going girls, enough dribble from me and ive got to go and cough up another lung before I go and pick Wilhelm up from Kinder
Mauw all

[BekZ]

Hi Everyone,

Thanks for the bday wishes.

Sharon - Way to go hon. Crossing my fingers that I will see you in the PAML thread real soon.

SP - I have a very strong feeling about you this month. I have had it for a while now and I can't wait to see you in PAML as well.

In fact I can't wait to see all you lovely ladies in the PAML thread.

I am going fine atm. Afternoon sickness is really bad but I am getting used to it. Only 2 weeks till my 12 week scan, which I am quite nervous about.

Anyway best go and

[*las*]

Happy belated birthday to the birthday girls! Hope you were spoilt rotten!

Maz - look after yourself and that precious bubba! Hope you are feeling better soon.

Satya - It is very daunting going back to the FS, but hopefully this is what you need to fast track things a bit...keep us posted how it goes.

Bun - lots of hugs to you too It would be incredibly frustrating to have unexplained infertility. Be gentle on yourself and take each day at a time.

Sharon - WOW! Looking good!!! Can't wait to hear after next test...everything crossed for you sweet!!

Heybacko - happy belated anniversary! You are very strong not testing...but I do hope when you do, it's a beautiful surprise!

Lee - Hope AF is being a little kinder to you now!

Have been trying to keep busy and pre-occupy my time, it's hard deciding not to cycle this month, because now I really want to! We are moving house in 3 weeks, to a place with cheaper rent, so next time we cycle, we can afford to go back to back. It scares me only having 2 embryo's left, and if they don't work, I have to go through the stress of another full stim cycle. So I feel like I REALLY need to be in the best possible place, emotionally, before I do another one, positive mind, positive result, right???!!!!

Hi to everyone else

[Lee]

Hi Ladies,

Gee, I'd forgotten how hormonal you can get during AF. Yesterday and today I've not stopped crying about my little boy. All the things we will never get to do together. I ache for him, and his death is a pain that is so terrible and so excruciatingly painful, it is just undescribable. I miss him. I love him. I hope he know this.

Needed to get that out. Thanks for all being so supportive. It really helps.

Lee x

[mummytotwo]

Just popped in to say hi & spread some babydust around!
Big hugs to all you ladies doing it tough - may there be a light at the end of the tunnel for you all soon!
Good luck to those due to test - it would be so lovely to see a rush of BFPs in this thread!
Thinking of you all & hoping good things happen for each & every one of you!

[Sharon19270]

Bun thanks, I still don't really believe it though.
satya :hugs: I don't understand how Dr's interpret bt results, but hopefully your will find out more from the reproductive specialist.
maz I know they say a line is a line, but it is very very very faint, think about a line that you can only just make out, and that's what I got, I suppose I just don't want to be disappointed
BekZ I felt so sick yesterday, every time I ate something I thought I was going to vomit. I have a really good feeling about this pg of yours being a sticky one.
*las* I would definitely be hard going from someone who charts every day to not charting at all, I really do hope that your next transfer ends up being a sticky one for you
saltprincess thank, but I just don't want to believe it after last cycle. Sorry you are feeling sick, hope you feel better real soon.
Lee :hugs: of course you are going to miss your little boy it is completely natural to think of what could have been, just keep letting it all out.
mummyto1 thanks for the babydust we all really need it in here.

Well I tested this morning again (of course) and there is still the faintest of lines (have to hold it up to a light) to be seen, but I did make sure I checked the hpt at 5 mins and could see it then. I just feel like I shouldn't get my hopes up after what happened last cycle. On a positive note yesterday I hardly felt like eating at all, and every time I did eat something I came VERY close the throwing up and all I tried to eat was toast at b'fast which I got half way through, then 2 slices of bread & butter at 3.30pm (that was the worst) and didn't try and eat anything then until 9pm where I had cheese on toast which I only just managed to eat.

[BekZ]

Sharon - Sounds like you may have some ms going on. I remember that you got ms very early on last time. Fingers crossed and hope this is it for you.

SP - How you feeling? Sorry to make you cry the other day.

Bun -I quickly read that you started clomid. How is that going for you?

Lee - Big hugs to you hon. Your pain must be so raw and hard to deal with at times. My thoughts are with you.

Hi everyone else