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thread: Trying to Conceive After Miscarriage or Loss October '08

  1. #109
    Registered User

    Jan 2008
    573

    Hannah....... I keep thinking about your idea.... I really do LOVE it..... The more I think about it the more I think we should all do something like that....

    My reason behind it is that it also makes it easier for the person you are telling...... when we tell in person there is it can be difficult for the person we are telling........ yeah i know... the "difficult for them.... they arent the ones who lost their angels"..... i know.... BUT i always believe that the best way is to always put yourself in the other persons shoes for a second so you can try and work out the best way of doing it.

    An email is a way of putting something together... giving you time to compose exactly what you want to get accross to them..... then when they receive it... it gives them time to take it all in and then time to deal with it and time to compose a response back to you......

    I love it Hannah.... I love it..... it educates openly..... in other words people who read it are not defensive or closed through to being uncomfortable.... they are "open" to what they are reading..... Love it

  2. #110
    Registered User

    Oct 2007
    Brisbane
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    Angel - you are so right, I think it also means you can spell out how need to be treated right now. It will have a lot more impact as it is coming from someone they care about.
    It is hard on other people because it is so sad and it is happening to someone they know and care for.
    I am going to send an email out to my friends tomorrow and let them know it is Remembrance day.

  3. #111
    BellyBelly Member

    Jun 2008
    Brisbane
    185

    Hi All,

    Just wanted to thank you all for your well wishes, NO AF spells and hugs - you are the only people who truely understand. DH is trying to be supportive by saying we always have next month but he just infuriates me more - poor darl

    We have decided to try a chinese herbalist as we are supposed to wait another month before seeing the gyno again. I cant go through another 4 whole weeks just doing nothing. Anyone had any luck with chinese herbs??

    Anyhow going to eat chocolate and sulk a bit longer on the couch and then I have to pick myself up, dust myself off and get back to normal tomorrow

    Thanks again

  4. #112
    Registered User

    Aug 2008
    Somerset - UK
    95

    I've just sent an email out to all my friends reminding them or informing them of the rememberance day tomorrow. I went onto the main website and got somoe logo's off there and told everyone to light a candle in rememberance tomorrow.

    I hope some go along with it, they may not have experieinced it themselves, but a lot of them will know someone who has, so let hope they do it because of someone they care about who has experienced a loss.


  5. #113
    Registered User

    Jan 2008
    573

    Well I 've done the same fificlaire...... Broke it up into different groups of people.... those that needed and explanation and those that didnt......even some that already knew

  6. #114
    Registered User

    Oct 2008
    Europe
    36

    Easha,

    I just wanted to send you a reply re. your question on the chinese herbs - I started TCM (herbs and acupuncture) in June, and I fell pregnant that very first cycle on herbs (unfortunately m/c in August). I might add that I'm 38 years old, so no longer a young chick in terms of fertility.

    But there is no doubt that the herbs are helping: my periods are back to normal again (2 years ago they became lighter and shorter) and I can also tell from my basal body temperature chart that there are improvements. I am now on my third cycle on TCM, and I hope that I will soon be successful. I've read somewhere that most women conceive on the 4th or 5th cycle on herbs, but that's statistics of course. In any case, I would highly recommend it. Do you plan to do acupuncture as well?

    My Western ob/gyn wants to put me on some medication by the end of the year, if nothing has happened by then. My Chinese doctor however thinks that it is not necessary and that the herbs will do their thing. I haven't decided yet what to do - 2 more cycles to go

    You're right, what attracted me to TCM was the fact that it gave me some control and some initiative over this whole thing. I didn't feel so helpless anymore. If you want to read a bit more about it, I can recommend a book by Randine Lewis called the "Infertility Cure" (just google it). She has also a website with tons of valuable information on TCM.

    Good luck and keep me posted

  7. #115
    Registered User

    Oct 2007
    Hunter Valley, NSW
    624

    I've sent out emails to friends and work colleagues informing/reminding them of tomorrows special date. I've also posted a note on another forum I visit. I've already had one response from someone on this forum who will join us in remembering our angels.

    Jen - I spotted you only caught the "pink" ones. CHEAT.

    Easha - enjoy your chocolate. I enjoyed mine. Shame AF left so early, I've still got lots left.

  8. #116
    Registered User

    Aug 2008
    Sydney
    125

    EashaGood luck with the TCM hope it does the trick. And your right about the couch, chocolate and sulking. I feel that you are writing my posts for me. I read them and think to myself someone is going through exactly how I am feeling. In a way its comforting

    Hannah I think the email is a great idea. I hope that it goes well and that people are kind and considerate with what you are going through. I also like the fact that it will most probably stop the dreaded question, "So when are you going to have kids?" I get that question all the time and if the email you send at least stops that question then I think it's worth it.

    WTH Ohh I ma so sorry sweetheart that your cycle was canceled. On a good note if there can be at least you know you do still have a chance there are little eggs up there. I hope that and you get a sticky healthy little jelly bean and in 9 months your miracle

    Angel You make me your such a nice lady. FS put me on 25mg and I know I shouldn't have put i just took the 50mg. All the research I done everyone starts on 50mg. Even on the tablet information thing you get with the tablets state that 50mg is the usual dosage and not to take more then that unless directed to by your doctor. So only time will tell I guess. My FS is just over cautious I think. Thank you for you personal experience though it's much appreciated. I will let you know how it goes.


    Jensuhka Sending you lots of sticky vibes hun. I hope your next BT has those levels heading for the sky.

    Larz That's great news about your u/s so glad to hear that everything is going swell.

    Joniesteve Sorry that you have had to join this forum but you will find comfort in the hearts of us all hear. I am so sorry for you loss but I know that there is nothing that I can say that will make you feel any better. I hope that your stay is here is short and that you are blessed with a healthy baby soon.

    Mollycat I do apologise for the confusion I was trying to get to everyone. I will give it another go. Cycle day 5? am I right? AF should be almost out the door and getting ready to tie those shoes on.

    Mummy of three boys Dont be hard on yourself. I have those days. I actually had one yesterday. I am glad DH wasn't home because I think he would have taken me to the Phsyic hospital. I just sat in front of the computer and cried and cried. I blame it on AF showing up just added to the pain. I hope that today was a better day for you. I find that if I keep busy it helps

    delly I hope that the FS has some good news for you and that maybe you can still start the syneral this month if that's possible. Sorry I don't know much about it.

    plc Thanks for checking up on me last night that was very sweet. I am doing better tonight. I hope all is well with you

    Jen I have started BBT today 2nd day of my cycle so we will see how it goes. Counting down the days of your TWW with you.

    To everyone else that I have missed I am sorry I did try to include everyone.

    AFM I had my 1st tablet of clomid so that it does it's thing and I ovulate on time and get my BFP.

  9. #117
    Registered User

    Aug 2008
    Sydney
    125

    Hi noticed there's a few light on if anybody is interested in going to miscarriage and loss chat room.

  10. #118
    jonisteve Guest

    I think I'll stay even after. I have felt so alone in this even with my dh. sometimes I feel like he didn't even hurt. but, I know that he did. he just doesn't show emotion very much. Does it ever get any easier? I know it's only been 2 weeks, I just feel like doing nothing and crying alot. I have to make myself get out of bed. I know none of this was my fault, but it still hurts just the same. after spotting all day yesterday and cramping (friday will be 2 wks after d and c) nothing today. It was wishful thinking that ant flo was here early and we were ready to start trying. dh wants to wait 2 cycles. I' m impatient.

  11. #119
    Registered User

    Jan 2008
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    jonisteve....... hun do you know how to get to the chat section of this site..... if you look to the top of the page your on now... there are pink tabs right up the top.... the 4th one along says live chat...... if you click on that it might not work straight away because you may have to sort your java out but once you have it sorted it means we will be able to chat live to you.... when you go in there you will see differnt rooms... we go to the miscarriage and loss room.

    Hopefully see you soon.... maybe just a big chat could be just what you need...... i ll put the kettle on you bring the chocolates...

  12. #120

    Oct 2005
    A Nestle Free Zone... What about YOU?
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    Tam - most times women begin on 50mgs of clomid - sometimes you will begin on less just to see how you respond. I was on 150mgs when I conceived Imogen - I needed that much to get a good response. The month she was conceived I had 3 mature follies on the 150mgs. I did get bloated and quite a bit of discomfort. Wishing you luck my love...

  13. #121
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    Jan 2008
    573

    Tam and Jen Jen... see sometimes you just need to step past and keep going

  14. #122
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    Jan 2008
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    Tam and Jen Jen.... good catching up with you both tonight.... I still claim absolute innocence..... even though i cant spell it.....

    and its now officially the 15th of October Pregnancy Infant Loss awareness day so its into pink and blue I go

  15. #123
    Registered User

    Jan 2008
    Indiana, USA
    400

    Moring Gurlies!

    dellydoo...I wish you coulda seen the instant smile when I read "petal" so sweet thank you! I am keeping you in my prayers...that you may be blessed soon

    jen...I didn't have a too crappy Monday...Lee and I are still working on some things...some days are better than others but we are communicating AND we ARE having SEX

    issy...wow your words were so on point...you did an excellent job explaining!

    WTH...aww...

    Krystie... @ orangutan...you are such a silly!

    Time to get on this pile of work...have a wonderful day ladies!





  16. #124
    Registered User

    Mar 2008
    California
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    Will have to do persies later..... Angel and Tam had me trapped in chat all morning (see, Angel, I'm following along in your blame-game!). It's all their fault..... promise I'll be back later!

  17. #125
    Registered User

    Jan 2008
    Melbourne, Australia
    1,395


    Thinking and praying for all you beautiful women today and for our missed and treasured angels.
    I don't know why they had to leave us so soon but as someone on BB said once I think they were too pure for this world.
    I take heart that they are there waiting for us one day.
    I hope the awareness is raised a bar today so that people like us have the support readily available for when they need it.
    God bless you all and your angels.

  18. #126
    Registered User

    Oct 2007
    Hunter Valley, NSW
    624

    Hello to everyone.

    Tam - that's ok. i'll forgive you AF has left YAY. And I'll start polishing those shoes shortly.

    BTW - I sent an email to Ruthie and here's her reply:

    Hi Sweetheart!!!!! I miss my belly belly girls!!!!!.... The move went well...yet I still have no internet till the 21st.... I'm in a friends house using hers....

    OMG A LOT has happened here...... After my D&C on the 12th I bled like for 2 weeks..then things got back to normal and we kinda missed ..you know..sex. LOL (blushed) so we "did it" like maybe 3 times.....and guess what??... I got 2 faint lines in 2 $ tree tests last week.,....
    looks close to this one...maybe a tid bit fainter but def you can see a faint line in the attachment I included to this message is an example pic, mine is a bit fainter.. its not from my last pregnancy it has been 5 weeks since so my HCG levels from that pregnancy went to zero a week after ... hwo i know?.. I did test and watched how the lines faded to nothing again...


    I'm not so excited.... this is so strange I'm saying this but this is the first time in my life I DON'T want a BFP!!!

    I was hoping to Try in Nov with the Specialist.... cuz Hubbys Health Insurance kicks in on Nov 1st..if I'm pregnant right now I can't afford the meds I need so that I don't miscarry agaian.

    I just have fear..fear of being pregnant again and all the heartache if I m/c again.

    Ssooooooo To make sure I'm testing Thursday morning with a First Response..its the only test I trust if it shows a line too then I'm DEF pregnant again...if it doesn't then I will be so very happy.... I will feel more confident getting pregnant with a doctor walking me through.. ( a Perinatologist)
    ...so its all this suspense...my symptoms??.. ALL.. ALL the symptoms I had with my Angel pregnancy!!!!! So it has me all jumpy.


    So I will manage to let you know how it went after the 21st when I get internet back.
    So that's my news..and if I am indeed pregnant I conceived w/o meds..which sounds great..but yet I know I will miscarry.
    If it's real I'm abour 3 weeks close to 4 so My Due Date would be somewhere around June or July?
    so thats why I'm not looking forward to a BFP yet..I was hoping for a Dec BFP...oh well...

    Thank you so much for thinkingof me... please let my BB girls know I miss them and love them very much!!!

    you can copy paste this message there if you want.. I hope I can findmy way around to find you gals.. I bet many threads have started..
    Miss you!

    Hugs to you all..and on the 21st I WILL update you!!

    Ruthie


    Smi - glad to know that you and Lee can talk nicely

    From the post I put on the other forum I visit I now have had three replies. All three will be lighting candles tonight (one lost twins many years ago, one almost lost her bub at birth and the other will just support us) It's a beautiful response - the word is getting out there AWARENESS = SUPPORT

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