salt hope your parents op goes well for you and everything will eventually fall into place for you theres no need to worry.it will happen.
trying to be positive it is hard i know but just hang in there and your turn will come.be patiant.things happen when they r ready to happen. thats what i always got told.
bun yes the ms sucks i know how you feel just make sure you keep up your fluids. i always used to suck on ice cubes they were the best.
megsmum hope your little girl is doing better... i know where your coming from with the lack of sleep. both my 2 have been vomiting the last 5 days its a nightmare.if its not one its the other feels like i never get to sit down at the moment.
its great to hear you are going ttc this month good luck and hope all goes well for you both.
megs75 im sorry to hear about your loss i hope you keep your chin up and keeptrying hun the day will come.
sharon i dont think it would make much difference to you temp. and its sounding like this mite be you month fingers crossed.
shoegal that is wonderfull news and all the best for the next couple of weeks
well i hope i covered everyone.and i mite pop back in later on
Salt I know it is hard, just take it one day (and one cycle) at a time. There is nothing I can say to make you feel better, but we are here for you if you need to chat or vent or just be "around" people without being around people IYKWIM?
Bun lots of these being sent your way, not that you need them!! Have every confidence that this one is the stickest ever and you will be able to tell your little one all about how sick she made you when she was in your belly!
Trying I am with you sadly... don't think we are ever going to get there. I remember how excited DH and I were when I went off the pill, thinking "ohh.. this is it". Unfortunately not for us - I reckon we will appreciate and cherish our pregnancies when they do come along though.
Hi to everyone else - sorry I have been away for so long!!
As for us - off to the FS on 14 August - good thing we weren't in a hurry! Have had some bloods taken and DH has sacrificed some swimmers to pathology. He is now all desperate to get the results... I have to have an ultrasound, which I know will be fine cause I have had my bits examined a few times due to my thyroid problems.
Am on CD 13 (i think) and it feels - hopefully not jinxing myself - that my cycle is more "normal" this time round. Getting the same O pains that I normally get, so fingers crossed.
shellbell~ I hope that you are right on with the O pains, looking forward to some more good news.
trying to be positive~ It can be soooo hard to be unsure of what your body is doing as I feel frustrated with my body, on a daily basis. I truly hope that you are reassured very very soon, Stay positive.
Sp~ Please don't feel like a failure, because there is no way on earth you come even close to that. Although I have my times of feeling the same and I totally understand the pg thing. I was at a "work" party and one lady was discussing her pg and although I was happy for her I felt like people were looking at me waiting for me to tear up because of the news. I will be thinking of you, I hope she doesn't approach you quite yet. BUT even more than that I hope and pray that you will be sharing YOUR news very very soon.
Bun~ Again I am sorry for you feeling so sick. I never had that with either of my pregnancies and I can't imagine how hard it would be to deal with life, and being sick not to mention the fear that goes along with being pg after a mc. I hope that very soon you will not only feel better but just a great sense of peace about your pregnancy. I know easier said than done but I have a great feeling about this sticky bubs. I really really do!!!
Although I am glad my cycle seems normal enough, its so freaking HEAVY right now! I am counting the days to the big O, I am really getting on it this coming weekend up until the middle of July just in case I don't want to miss any day! Plus our 1 year anniversary is this Sunday July 1. YAY for us.
Sorry no personals. Selfish post today. I was in the middle of doing personals when I got a phone call and lost the post. The phone call was a friend informing me that my SIL is pg. I'd suspected that she was trying as she'd gone off the booze.... and was dreading the announcement. I'm glad I got the news from the friend.... not them as at least I could have my cry without anyone witnessing it. They've been trying 5 minutes.. I don't begrudge them their happy news, but I should have been 19 weeks now & shouting it out to the world, and they are madly running around telling all and sundry at 5 weeks (but not us yet). It will be interesting to see how long it takes them to break the news to us.
I only just get rid of one pregnant person around me (my workmate) and another one just drops in my lap.... I feel cursed. I know she is going to go on and on and on about being pregnant.... all she has done since the day I met her was talk about her wedding and that's only just over & done with and I just know she will be the same about being pg. I think I might just have to tell her about my m/c and just tell her I really don't want to hear the ins & outs of it all & get it out there and up front. I really can't endure every family event being taken over by pregnancy talk.
I feel so powerless at the moment. I don't think we DTD on the correct days so there's no hope for this month, then I'll probably have to wait a couple more months for the LAP and then the whole IVF thing will rear it's ugly head. I am so trying to keep positive but am finding that impossible.
Salt - So sorry honey! Just remember it's not over until AF arrives. I do so hope that everything has gone well with your parents. I understand the need to take a break for a few days. I hope that things get a little easier for you soon.
Bun - I hope the M/S clears up for you soon. Must be tough to try and act normal at work. You must be hanging out for your holiday!!
Claire - HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! Hope you go thoroughly spoilt!
Shoegal - so glad the test went well. Good luck with the BDing!!
Sharon - glad to see you back sweetie. Hope that this cycle is the one for you. I'm not 100% sure about the ducted air thing, but I think as long as it's not up too high it should not affect your temps. If anything having the house at a constant temperature every night might help you have more accurate temps. At least you wont have the ups and downs...
Megs75 - So sorry to hear about your loss... you have come to the right place. All the girls in here are so lovely and have really helped me come to terms with trying again after loosing our baby. Best of luck with TTC.
Satya - Oh hun, I'm so sorry that you are feeling powerless. This whole TTC thing sucks the big one. I really hope that this start to get better for you soon. I wish I could wave a magic wand and make everything right for all of us. I don't know why some of us are tested like this, and I know that you have been through alot. You are in my thoughts and prayers and I know that things will work out for you eventually.
Lisa - So glad that your results came back with such a positive result. I'm sure things will work out wonderfully with this one. Hope you are feeling ok, must be a lot to try and adjust to.
Nicole - I like your positive thinking... I think we can all use some of that around here. Best of luck with this cycle.
Michelle - Good luck with waiting for the O, hope you are getting some serious BDing in!
Diane - Good luck with Oing this weekend... good timing with the 1 year anniversary. Congrats!! Maybe you can make an anniversary baby...
Trying to be Positive - What time do you usually O? There is still plenty of time yet to O. I'm sure that everything you are doing is helping, if not right now, it will certainly help for the next cycle. I've heard that Vitex needs to be taken for 3 months to start having an effect, but every little bit helps. How have you found elevit?? I'm taking it too, but find I get so constipated on it (sorry TMI...).
Megsmum - Good luck with this month, I really hope that it happens for you this time.
Anyhow, not much going on with me. My temp has dropped slightly again. But AF is not due until Sat or Sun (I have a really long LP, which sucks... so much longer until FF tells me I should test). It's my birthday tomorrow and I would so love to test and get a BFP, but really don't think it will happen for me this cycle and really dont want to get all depressed on my B'day by getting a BFN...
Anyhow, big hugs to anyone I've missed, hope that you are doing well.
Pash I am so very sorry to hear about the loss of your twins, it is so sad. I also hope that it wasn't a molar pg for your sake. Sending big :hugs: to you and your dh. Salt glad to hear that your parents' op went OK I hope they both recover very quickly. Bummer about the spotting today. Beaksie sorry to hear about your loss too, and like Pash I hope it doesn't turn out to be a molar pgncy for you as well. The girls in hear are just fantastic, you definitely know you aren't alone in the way you are feeling.
hello to everyone else, way too tired for personals tonight since it is 12.30am and I have to be up at 7am.
Will try to get on tomorrow night. :hugs: to all those that need them
My bleeding was the start of a m/c and I lost both my twins. I had a D&C yesterday to be sure.
Also cos my HCG actually increased while I was m/cing, they think the twins may have been molar pgs. So now I have to wait for 10 days till my "urgent" histology report comes back with the results. But the gyn was pretty sure they were molar, she had no other reason for HCG going up during m/c.
If they were molar, then I'll have to be monitored for a min of 6months. No ttc and BD only with condoms!
The only good news (?) is that now that I've lost 3 bubs in a row, I qualify for a recurrent miscarriage clinic. They do some tests, and will probl find nothing wrong.
I just can't believe how unlucky I am. Chance of a molar pg is 1 in a 1000. I don't think they even have the stats for twins that are molar.
DH & I are on the verge of giving up. Starting a family shouldn't be so painful and potentially life threatening.
I'm sorry I couldn't read what everyone is upto. Its all a bit painful for me at the moment. Thanks for thinking of me though. I do appreciate it.
Salt - Its a difficult time but you will come through it. That's how I feel anyway. I hope the ops for your mum & dad go well. Go easy on yourself. You are not a failure. You are one incredibly strong & caring woman. PG is just one of those incredibly frustrating things that is totally outside your control. I am sure you will fall pg soon, when the time is right & you can enjoy it.
Bun - Don't worry about your scan (easier said than done). If you do need a D&C (which you won't) you'll be right to travel the day after. 2 days after my first D&C, I drove 9 hours, and 5 days after I flew Sydney-London. But I really think you & bub willl be fine. By the way, when you do fly, make sure you drink heaps of water as your body is trying to make bub & flying can be dehydrating anyway. Also, chances of DVT are higher, so wearing those DVT socks are a good idea, so is drinking loads & walking around loads (prob to the loo).
Rachael - I remember your docs did a test for molar pg after your D&C. Do you mind if I ask why they suspected it for you?
Pash - *hugs* I'm so sorry that this has happened to you and your DH again. You know my thoughts are with you.
Salt - Hope you aren't stressing too much waiting for AF - you never know, she might not turn up.
Claire - Happy Birthday
Satya - Sorry that you are feeling down. Hopefully you'll get a BFP at the end of the TWW. And if that does happen all the focus will be on your SIL's announcment and you can quietly enjoy your pregnancy.
Kerry - How are you going? Any sign yet of when you can start TTC again? Just think, we can go baby shopping together when we are belly buddies again. *positive thinking*
Hello to everyone else. Hope you are having a stress free week!!!
As for me, AF is getting heavier every day. I have no idea whether I should go back to my FS, as I am worried about what is happening, plus I have no energy at the moment. I have a funeral to attend tomorrow, as a friend passed away on Monday after being told 3mths ago she had a brain tumour, and secondary cancer. Life is too short, so I guess we all need to reach out and grab hold of what we want and never give up on our dreams.
Pash~ I am sooo sorry for your loss and what you and your DH are going through. Please know that we are here to listen to you anytime! I hope that you find out that it wasn't a molar!!!! Don't give up. :hugs:
pash i am so sorry to hear about your loss i am with you on how you feel. i hope you are feeling alot better 2day after your d&c yesturday and hope it all went well for you. you should be very vertile now that you have had a clean out and maybe try again. bubs will eventually stick with you they do eventually with everyone so dont give up hun.
Pash - I'm so sorry to hear your news. I hope it wasn't a molar pg as that 6 months to 1 year wait to ttc would be very difficult for you. As you say, at least you will get some thorough testing now. I hope you are feeling OK today.
Leyla hope you have a great day.
Belinda - I'm sorry to hear about your friends death. Brain tumours are a horrible way to go - a work colleague died of one a couple of years ago & it was hard watching her go through the downward spiral. How heavy has your bleeding got? It's probably nothing to worry about, when I was younger every now & then I'd get a major AF that would gush & be really painful & I would feel absolutely drained.... thankfully it's been a number of years since I've had one.
Well its 3DPO for me and I have sore BBs. I'm feeling a little better today but am still concerned about the whole situation. Maybe I'm over-reacting, maybe it wont be as bad as I imagine but I have a feeling that my SIL will only have one topic of conversation for months.
Sorry to those I missed when I lost my personals yesterday.
I'd made the following notes so here goes but I'm sure I've missed people.
las - glad the BT went well. Your symptoms increasing is a great sign.
Bun - I think you might be better off to beg off the work function.
Salt - A dip means nothing until your AF arrives. I totally understand your frustration with the whole TTC process. Just have a look at my post last night and you will see how messed up I am right now.
Timinik - At first I liked the idea of the secret, until I read some articles about it and saw some reports on TV about it. The Aussie woman who wrote it has been accused of plaigurising (sorry I'm sure that's spelt wrong) it from another Aussie woman who wrote a very similar book several years ago. Some of the passages were practically word for word. One of the guys who appeared in the video has been ripping off dozens of Aussie people by saying he will invest their money to make money for them but he won't give it back to them. No wonder he was preaching that all you have to do is ask the universe for what you want and you will get it. Experts also warn that the teachings are not healthy. For instance, if you go with what they say you will believe that you will not catch a disease if you truly believe that you won't get it. Very dangerous territory that one. That said I think that positive thinking is a great idea, but I think the secret has tried to take this a little too far. I fell pregnant whilst TTC but really I did not think it would happen (due to my history) - it came as a huge shock. Since then I switched to thinking that it can happen again and it's just not happening. I even tried the imagining that I'd already received my gift - ie that I was pregnant and all that did was left me more disappointed than normal when I didn't turn out to be pregnant.... I think maybe I should go back to thinking that it's not possible again.... that seemed to work for me. It's great if it works for you but it's just not my cup of tea.
megsmum - If your progesterone defficiency was diagnosed based on just one blood test then it's not likely to be accurate. My GP had told me that mine was low and that I wasn't ovulating well (and I'd had two tests) and that my estrogen was too high but when I went to my gyno he told me that my results were nothing to worry about. I believe a whole series of blood tests have to be undertaken to diagnose a hormone problem accurately so don't stress about that.
pash - you have been in my thoughts all week and my heart breaks for you right now. Don't have any words to express my sorrow but wanted to answer your question.
They did testing on me because the sample from the D&C wasn't conclusive - there were some partially hydropic cells which can be associated with partial molar pregnancies. My hcg never went up but took a long time to come down. Those two things, combined with the unusual bleeding in surgery was the reason they checked for a partial molar pregnancy.
Pash - I, too, have been wondering how you have been. I was hoping it was a case of "no news is good news", but I was wrong. You poor thing Pash. Damm it. It does anger, why why why, it is so unfair that your little twins didn't stay, especially given how much they were wanted and loved by you and your DH. I know you are going to be feeling pretty ordinary for some time. You know we are here for you as much as we can be in cyberspace. This is a good time for you to be extremely kind to yourself, and keep your expectations low. And I do also know, that although it's terribly painful right now, your only true course of action is to keep trying. I truly hope your twins were not molar pregnancies, as waiting 6+ months to ttc will be hard. On the other hand, perhaps it's good for you emotionally to give it a short break, 6 months isn't that long in the scheme of things, and you could plan some lovely side trips away in Europe in that time perhaps, some nice healthy diversions. Big hugs to you Pash, you have been so kind and supportive of me and everyone else in here, and we all share your loss and feel your pain too. I pray that you get some simple answers why your bubs are not sticking, and even better, some simple solutions.
Hello to everyone else, will bbl for more. Nothing much to report with me, which is good I guess.
Oh Pash, that is just terrible, terrible news I am so sorry. You and your DH are in my thoughts and you have my deepest sympathies. Please take care of yourself.
Hi everyone else, I'll be back in a few days to do personals - I am out of internet allowance now for the rest of the month.
missbelinda77 im sorry to hear about your friend that is so sad. i hope you are doing ok and hope the funeral went well. you will get there. one of the girls friends at work her freind died last night of a drug over dose and left her 2 little children behind. i dont know how pll can take their own lifes it is so precius. and the ones that have an illness have no chioce its not fair on them. well thats my belief on it all.
saltprincess im glad you parents op went well that is great news. just relax hun and things will flow and you will pg b4 you know it.
bun i hope everything is going well with you and the bubs you r doing well. how are you feeling?
well i think that is all of you sorry to anyone i have missed.
as for me i have the flu and it sucks. but apart from that i am doing well. only one wekk to go till we can ttc again. i am so excited.
Oh Pash. This is so unfair, i just can't believe this has happened to you. You really only deserve the very best and i feel very angry you have had to experience another miscarriage. Life shouldn't be like this. I'm not really a religious person but will be praying that it's not a molar pregnancy.
I just wish there were words to comfort you but i know the pain you're feeling is pretty impenetrable. Please know that even though we have all had different experiences, we have all experienced miscarriage, so understand as much as we can what you're going through and will be here when you need us. God, i'm just so sorry, i feel so sad.
Salt, hugs to you too, i really thought this would be your month. But on the other hand, i'm pleased your folks are doing so well. You've been through the wringer so should spoil yourself a bit this weekend.
Leyla - happy birthday fellow cancerian! Hey my horroscope a few weeks ago said promising things about babies and fertility, so i hope that's true for you too.
Belinda, i'm sorry about your friend. Have you called your FS and told them you're worried? I hope AF stops soon, it sounds draining.
Satya - sucks about your SIL. Some people (and i admit i was one during my first preg) just don't understand that not everyone will be overjoyed to hear their news. one thing m/c teaches you is to be more sensitive and compassionate towards others, as you never know what's going on behind closed doors. I hope she's not too painful! and even more so, i hope you can share some news with her sooner rather than later.
Shoegal - good news hon!
Sharon i can't remember if this has been answered or not, but no, the heating shouldn't affect your temps. at 16 degrees your body will be maintaining it's core temp, i think it's only in extreme circumstances that the air temp would affect your bbt.
Megs - welcome to the group, looking forward to getting to know you.
Megsmum, hope TTC goes well this cycle. if you do fall, i'm sure your doc can mmonitor your progesterone and give you pessaries to supplement it. good luck.
Lisa - woohoo! glad things are going well for you!
Bun, things sound very good for you too. not long now until your scan and i'm sure all will be good and your can focus on a lovely relaxing holiday!
TimNik - i have heard of the secret but haven't read it. i'm a huge fan of positive thinking though and visualisation. i practice what i preach (normally, this preg is doing my head in!) i find it's great while you're in the right headspace, but other times is very difficult... it's hard to think positively about a miscarriage for example, even though you might think positively about the future, it's hard to see any good that can come from losing a baby.
Your symptoms sound good, here's hoping!!
TTBP - could it be that you're going to ovulate late this month? i don't normally ovulate until quite late, up to CD 24... i hope the FS has some answers for you.
Shellbell, good luck with the results, and i hope you're spot on about this cycle.
Zionsmum - happy anniversary for the weekend! i hope it's a memorable one for more than one reason!
To all the other girls, hello!
We found out last night my cousin and his wife had to have an emergency c/s on monday at 32 weeks. their daughter is tiny, but alive. there are just too many scary stories out there, but i guess you don't necessarily hear about all the perfect endings.
Off to see a friend tonight who i haven't seen in ages. i'm dreading it. last time i saw her i was newly preg in my last pregnancy, and even though she knew i was TTC she was so damn critical of me wanting to have a baby. i don't know what her prob is. i haven't really seen her since and never told her about the pg or m/c, as i was worried she'd gloat. really don't want to go tonight but will, as DH is very good mates with her hubby.
Speak soon girls. Again i'm so sorry for the sad news around this place. Pash you are in my thoughts.
I know it is hard, just take it one day (and one cycle) at a time. There is nothing I can say to make you feel better, but we are here for you if you need to chat or vent or just be "around" people without being around people IYKWIM? 
lots of these being sent your way, not that you need them!! Have every confidence that this one is the stickest ever and you will be able to tell your little one all about how sick she made you when she was in your belly! 
Only bad news from me today...
Leyla hope you have a great day.
I am so sorry. You and your DH are in my thoughts and you have my deepest sympathies. Please take care of yourself.
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