TTC after Miscarriage or Loss ~ February 08 #2

**Canary** · February 24th, 2008, 12:22 AM

I think I was typing my post when yours was added.
Just wanted to say sorry for the temp drop. :hugs: I have never heard of this gene. Is there good evidence that it is linked to m/c?

**tempus moriendi** · February 24th, 2008, 10:55 AM

Angel Babies: try not to make yourself too crazy LOL! You'll need your money some day to send some little guy away to college (hopefully and keeping fingers crossed) and not paying for some psychologist's new sports car!

Anthonysmom: I'm so sorry. Keeping fingers crossed for next month. Is there some sort of treatment or hormone or something they can put you on?

Canary: even if you only saw a little CM, it still counts. But some suggestions for improving and increasing mucus include eating vitamin A rich foods like one or two carrots a day, prunes, eggs, liver and organ meats. Also, vitamin c helps and the cough syrup guiafensin (Robitussin). Good luck.

**Baby Angels** · February 25th, 2008, 08:00 AM

Well on the 2ww home straight.... 4 days til poas. Temps increasing slowly.

Ok now deep breathe and focus on not thinking about it for at least another few hours....... <<<<< telling myself.

**Katiegirl** · February 25th, 2008, 08:28 AM

Angel Babies - I am 10 DPO as well so going by last cycle I should have 4 days until I know. My temps have been rising and then this morning it went down by a point but still high (for me). I am really trying hard to not have ANY expectations. I am also seeing new Ob on Wed, so even if AF arrives at least I know we are moving forward. Good luck to you - fingers crossed for good news!!!

**Anthonysmom** · February 25th, 2008, 09:53 AM

Canary and TM. - thanks for the support. Yeah this gene causes your blood to clot and also not absorb folic acid correctly. It has been linked to m/c along with heart disease and stroke for me. yeah. I am on baby aspiring and high doses of follic acid. my doctor didn't tell me much had to do a lot of research on my own and with help of BB women.

Angel and Katie - Good Luck!!!

**AJC** · February 25th, 2008, 05:03 PM

Good luck TWW'ers, fingers crossed for you.

**ll80** · February 25th, 2008, 05:24 PM

Good luck everyone on the TWW.
I'm away for just over a week from tomorrow so I will have a lot of catching up to do when I get back!!

Made it to get my blood test today so one step closer to TTC properly.

..Laura

**bettyboop** · February 25th, 2008, 05:32 PM

back again, we had a great weekend away, i have missed you all.
so much to catch up on, hope you are all great.
doc is ringing tomorrow with a date for my lap .
fingers crossed for those in the TWW

**Canary** · February 27th, 2008, 04:25 AM

Angel B: :hugs: Sorry about AF. How rude of her to come early and take you by surprise. Glad to hear that you are feeling positive about her though. Just think, only 14ish days until the fun part of getting jiggy like mad!

Laura, I am actually having the opposite, less CM. It sounds rather bizarre, but I'm sure it is all part of the normal human cycle.
Mollycat- sorry about you SIL, but nice to hear that you are feeling positive.

As for me, I am still imagining symptoms....Wish I could stop! Have really cut down on caffeine- just one cup of tea or coffee per day, which is a big difference for me. Have just realised that I am CD 24 today, so should be 6 days to test, but ff says I am only 5 DPO. Oh, I dont know, I think that I should just try and foget about it for a bit, seems to be all I am thinking of at the moment!

Magda · February 27th, 2008, 10:16 AM

Angle babies, I am sorry to hear that AF arrived. But I agree with one of the ladies here who said 14 days till you can get jiggy with it. Keep trying don't leave us.

Mollycat, I am sorry to hear about your SIL, continue being positive.

Canary, I am in the same boat with you at the moment I should be 7 dpo, but I have no idea if I O'd. I did have a dr apt yesterday and when he was feeling around inside he said it felt like a strong chance I could be. But are you eating a lot, I am eating everything I see. I went to the supermarket earlier and brought at frozen Sara Lee Pound Cake, the small one, and 4 hrs later I have eaten 3/4 of it. And I am not at all a big eater.

Does anyone remember feeling moody a week before Af is to arrive if preg or do you guys think it's a clear sign of Af arriving. I have been under a lot of stress with my daughter.

I hope everyone else is doing well I 'm sorry if I have missed anything I still have a few more post to read.

**Jodsan** · February 27th, 2008, 10:23 AM

Hi Magda,
When I was pregnant with Aiden (born May 2006) I ate everything in sight, from a few days before my positive test at about 12-14 dpo until the end of the first trimester. I think I gained about 6 kgs in the first trimester!

Could be a good sign!!

**tempus moriendi** · February 27th, 2008, 10:51 AM

I got a minor victory today. I found a YMCA near me with a good reputation that does drop-in day care. I was really worried because with my new FS I can see me having to go to the doc sometimes at a drop of a hat and it's good I won't have to rely soley on my friends to watch my littlest one. $14 a month to make her a member, then babysitting is free! Which is really good because AF is due next week and if it comes, I need a hysteroscopy and there's just no way you can take a 5-year-old to a hysteroscopy. Good luck fellow TWW'ers!

Anthonysmom: are you seeing a FS or a regular OB? I've noticed docs don't like to give out too much information. I think it makes them feel smart and exclusive or something...

ll80: actually, I've had less CM since mc

bettyboop: good luck with your tests...

tina_k: sending cyberhug

nicksterUK and Canary: take a deeeep breeeaaath...

Katiegirl: try not to get too down. sometimes fertility problems come and go. I needed clomid to concieve my first, but my others came naturally. and my successful pregnancies were real easy-breezy. So even if you need help RIGHT NOW, it doesn't mean you will need help forever.

mollycat: what are "green p's" and "L's"??? never heard that before. why do you suppose SIL kept it a secret? although a woman I knew who ws pregnant with her 7th never saw a doctor until she was five months along, she was so scared to tell her husband (long story short, he was fine with it and they planned to have more kids)).

Angel Babies: sorry about AF, but you sound like you have a pretty good attitude about it.

Jodsan: of course you're welcome and I'm so sorry for your loss.
All my successful pregnancies had NO bleeding, not even implantation.

**mollycat** · February 27th, 2008, 11:33 AM

hi tempus - sorry talking about australian (state of new south wales) licensing for driving "L's" are learners permit which most people get at age 16 (I just was never ready, and didn't really need them). Then there are two stages of provisional licences "Red P's" and "Green P's". The L's which you get with a computer test now need a minimum of 120 hours driving practice (only 50 when i did them) and a minimum of twelve months, reds are for twelve months and you need to pass a driving test to get these, the the greens follow, this is another computer test and you need these for a minimum of two years, follow this with yet another computer test to go on your "full" licence. Every test has a fee, as well as every licence has a fee.

About being positive, i can't do anything to change my SIL's pg. With lots of luck I won't see them very often. As to why keep this a secret, i think they've done the same for about the last seven kids. Why? Who knows, maybe it's so we won't make any bad comments about the number of kids they have, at one stage they had nine in a tiny 3 bedroom house, The first 3 are about 14 months apart then the others are spaced over a few years apart.

**Baby Angels** · February 27th, 2008, 01:24 PM

Well I sent through an email to my Naturapath last night. Asking basically what the heck to do from here. (she is a wonderfully positive person who I really am beginning to adore...... She has no clue at this stage but if I ... I should say WHEN I get a BFP - she is such an excitable thing - that I m going to ask her to be there for the delivery........ she is also a qualified midwife)

She got back to me just before midnight and put me back to the more positive side (I can picture her sitting there saying ... use the force angel... use the force.... stay away from the dark side)... ANYWAY I keep digressing.... In my email to her I basically said WTF can we do about these backwards swimming swimmers. Her response was that she can treat DH with a more agressive regeim and I basically said.... Hell yeah..... bout bloody time!

So I read the email out to DH and he said, well if it takes accupunture every day then thats what I will do..... Realistically though ladies.... what other response could he have given AND survived!

So today we are calling her to set up whatever appointments he needs to have to get his Chee and his Swimmers in line. From there we are going to keep going and look at how every thing is going again in May. The whole 72 Day thing with the swimmers puts us in May so APPARENTLY they should know HOW to swim by then. I really do want to stick with doing it naturally and dont want to do another IVF cycle. If anyone has ever read my first blog you will understand totally. So we will see how things go over the next few months.

NOW catch up time....

Mollycat....... I would rather be bare foot and pregnant cookin in the kitchen than cookin cyber cakes so we can all be pregnant..... LOL but another batch of cakes coming up.... I ll leave the cupcakes to someone else.... I m going with a ultra rich chocolate mud cake covered in gooey chocolate icing.... hmmmmmm yummmmy

tempus.... absolute best of best of luck for you.....

Jodsan.... Nope never had any stick bleed with any of them.... have 18 year old, 16 year old and of course my 2 angels this year. It is deffinately AF.... bless her cotton socks

As for putting on weight in the first Tri.... OMG I had to go out yesterday and buy a new pair of jeans so i had SOMETHING to wear to the football on Saturday. I ve had to buy a new uniform for work. I only fit into those and my maternity clothes I brought. Boy did I get chitty the other night... some stupid late night tele commercial on TV. All these mothers complaining about the weight they put on when they had their babies... I was ready to throw something at the TV.... I was ranting and raving.... saying... Try having the baby fat without being allowed to have the baby!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ohhh I was in tanty mood big time... PS.. that was the night before AF arrived...

Goodness this is going to be a long post!

Magda..... Yep hanging around here for a bit more... not going anywhere yet... Ohhh I keep going into Pregnant after MC just to check on StarrySky but other than that You are all stuck with me...... Now as for you..... BREATHE girl.... Dont stress its just one day at a time and then another and then another.... Dont let your mind sending you over to the crazy side....

ll80.... Personally I love the whole CM theory. I am just amazed that our bodies react to that degree. Ohhh and I m a huge fan of the egg white ..... lol ... there specifically to help the swimmers swim easily and keep them alive while they do.... they can survive up to 5 days in the egg white and only 2 days in the white sticky... its such amaizing stuff.

plc18055.... Birthday Buddy.... Ohhh you cracked me up you wonder twin you.... I can just picture this morning cartoon TV character saying " form of a big mirror ' so for someone who thinks they cant say the right thing at the right time..... YOUR WRONG... thanks hun.

Nickster.... Hmmm dressing up teachers... must be a UK thing

ohhh sorry I cracked myself up... Picturing all these teachers dressed as nutters.... (na... not just a UK thing... I ve done it myself for various reasons... but not going into detail LOL) Now you dont have long till your doctors appointment so I want to know straight way what he says...

Canary....... Well ummmmm DH is only just gotten his way back into the jiggy books. He went just under 2 weeks of "dont you even think about it bud" So MAYBE... if he behaves and does everything HE can do to TTC then MAYBE in 2 weeks he will be lucky. As for you POAS day... I decided to do things differently this time.... Whenever I was thinking to much about it i did POAS. it then told me it was negative and I kept going with my day.... hey it worked... only downside it that it stayed negative and now AF is here.. but hey.... it kept me sane.

Well I think that is everyone and I have caught up.... Huge hugs to all

**nicksterUK** · February 27th, 2008, 05:03 AM

Hi all- hope you've had a good day!? Mine has been crazy!! Today I was dressed as Queen Elizabeth 1st- I kid you not- and the rest of my department dressed as Shakespeare characters for the day. I organised a special day for 220 students who are sitting their Shakespeare exams in a few weeks (special lessons, assembly, a falconer who did an awsome display with his birds of prey (the kids even gloved up and 'flew' them) and then the theatre co. who performed the play). Brilliant but absolutely knackering!! I've already had my dinner and a bath and am off to bed in a mo- it's not even 8pm here yet!

It kept me occupied tho so I haven't been fretting about 'symptoms' today. I figure if there's no tummy pain, severe backache or bleeding then little bean must be ok....hoping hopimg hoping...

Angel- damn your unwanted visitor! Tell her to come back in 9-10 months time! xxx Hope you are ok, :hugs:

Laura- I definitely get the CM you describe around 'o'. I reckon it's nature's way of making sure I realise what's going on, since I'm a bit unsure of the whole 'monitoring of the cycle.' I go 'oh' in surprise (or 'yuk') 'aha must be 'o'

Canary- have added you to my 'fingers crossed for BFP' this weekend- good luck mate!

Hi to everyone else-

for you all xxx

**plc1805** · February 27th, 2008, 06:45 AM

Hi there - have been lurking but not posted - just had to time-out a little and now I'm back

Angelbabies - Bdaybuddy!! - what a bugger!! and a 25 day cycle to boot! hun - I'm going to become one of those super powered wonder twins (dykwim?) and assume "form of a big mirror" and reflect all of the amazing positive energy that you normally emit right back at you!!!

I don't have ur knack of knowing exactly the right thing to say but know that the best possible right thing is trying to be said to you right now - chin up, hun! oh and thx for your cheer up post - it did actually make me lol

Nickster - crazy day at your neck of the world! I (and the rest of us I'm sure) would be in the same shoes as you re ur concerns - after my m/cs I don't think I would totally let myself relax during my next (hopeful) pg. But there has to be an element of allowing urself to have faith that things will work out - doesn't there?

Canary - aww GL hun for this cycle! but at the same time if it's meant to be for you this cycle it will be. Positive vibes for u!!

ll80 - hey laura - def get the cm at o time on my underwear but don't know about "wetting myself" feeling. Haven't experienced any change with cm since m/cs. GL with BT!

Mollycat - wow! for so many reasons - great to hear of positives in ur life at the mo! sorry ur mum has been poorly and sorry u have that horrible constant reminder of good pg around u. Ur sil esp!! With all due respect - what a show-off!

11 kids (sigh!) as for keeping up a brave face to ur clients, it reminds me a saying my mum heard once and lives by "the personal success is how we face, with grace and dignity, the atrocities of life" - helps me!

Katiegirl - sorry af feels like its coming (not over til its over tho) and there is ? on ur cycle. I don't really know what to say about whether it is better to have a longer or shorter pause after m/c. I have heard of women having success and failures in each circumstance. Hang in there - when it finally happens for you, it won't matter how long it has taken, ul be just so over the moon!

Tina - it's been my experience and observation that there are no set pg symptoms for everyone. My girlfriend has just had her 2nd m/c with 2 healthy pgs before that and never had any of the traditional signs of pg for any of them. I had no early pg symptoms for DS but had a lot of nausea before i m/c my 1st. I totally get ur desperation - I'm not particularly religious but I do kind of "pray" to the universe - put it out there that "yep! i'm open to being pg again" - it helps me.

Betty - how'd u go with lap appt? glad u had a great weekend!

AJC - how u going hun?

Anthonysmom - glad that there are some answers coming ur way so that (even tho horrible to hear) u know what ur dealing with at least and can take appropriate meds. keep positive tho!

Tempus - how are u going? hugs to you...

Hi to everyone else - let's keep that positivity in here and let the

settle on all of us!!

**Jodsan** · February 27th, 2008, 08:41 AM

Hi ladies,

I hope you don't mind me dropping in on your thread, this is only my second post ever. I posted one in January re: a MC I had just had and everyone was so sweet. I allowed myself one full cycle and was ready to TTC again. I am now 10dpo. At 7dpo my boobs started getting sore and lumpy, like when my milk came in with Aiden. Then dpo's 8,9&10 so sore and hot, like they have been hit with a freight train! Had quite a bit of creamy CM yesterday which I normally would not get this time of the month. Also a bit tired and sleepy which I think is due to progesterone.

I'm feeling quite optimistic, but a little scared bc I haven't had an implantation bleed. I had this with Aiden and knew right from the start that the pregnancy was going to stick. I didn't have an implantation bleed with the MC in Jan at 5-6 wks. Have any of you had a successful pregnancy without an implantation bleed?

Also, when do you think I should test? My AF is due around 15dpo. I have bought Crystal Clear which says you can test 4 days before AF, that would make it tomorrow. Probably a little overanxious!

Laura - I think there is always heaps of CM up around the cervix around O time, but it doesn't always come out. If I go for a run or to the gym around O time, I notice heaps and heaps and heaps of CM in my undies afterwards. I didn't seem to have as much after my MC, but I have been a bit naughty and not done any exercise!

Angel B - do you often get early AFs? I have heard that sometimes implantation bleeding can be as heavy as an AF.

**ll80** · February 27th, 2008, 08:54 AM

HI everyone,
I guess the CM is more of a pain than anything else, but at l east I know when it O time well and truely.

Jodsan my first pg with my daughter I didn't have any bleeding what so ever and it turned out all okay. Everyone is different and every pg is different which doesn't make it any easier for us to try and figure out what our bodies are doing. Quite a pain in the backside really isnt it?

Well I am well and truely bored in the country, I really wish my DP was here as there would be a hell of a lot of bonking going on. nothing else to do. I guess I could get a start on my Uni work but you know... would much rather be bonking

..hope you all have a good day

...Laura