to my knowledge the only way to diagnose it with certainty is with a laparoscapy, and if they find any they can remove it at the same time. I had one last year and got pregnant right afterwards, without even trying. Other symptoms are pain with AF, during sex, bowel problems, although as I said my only real symptoms were spotting and infertility, and I had a fair bit. May not be the case with you but worth bringing up with a doctor maybe, preferably a gyno.
Has the spotting been happening for a while? If yes, it could be a number of things. Definitely talk to GP about possibilities.
Thanks for asking - yes I'm doing well. Taking care of myself. Actually sleeping again (with help of natropath). Sleep seems to be the key problem - if I don't sleep, I don't cope. Also getting counselling. Still having sad days (as expected) but dealing with them a lot better, I think.
Another thing- I don't think an ultrasound would pick it up, I've never heard of a diagnosis being done that way. Also it doesn't necessarily cause infertility, depends entirely on the position of the deposits and how advanced they are. In my case though I was probably never going to get pregnant till it was removed.
I might have a chat with my local GP (she is also training in obsetrics, to see if I could have this, when I talk to her on Monday. She also has all my tests results for every test I have had. I know I had my tubes checked etc, and I am sure other tests where done also.
Wow, things have moved fast in here since my last post!
Cindee - CONGRATULATIONS that is fantastic news, here's hoping for a smooth journey!
Lan - I am glad you are on the right track to getting that BFP, I hope it happens swiftly for you.
Sue - I am sorry....
Danek - Sleep, I agree with you. After I lost Cooper I couldn't sleep at all, and it does make it REALLY hard. We also gave our dog away the day I went into labour (bad day!) and I find whenever something traumatic comes up I seem to always dream about him, I believe it is so strongly linked with all the trauma of that day. I only dreamt of him last night I will tell you all why in a minute.....
Paula - Ethan is an amazing brother, Charlie is so lucky to have him watch out for her in that little star cradle and to look after you guys.
Rozzie - I am glad you had a peaceful day on Edward's EDD. You made me laugh about the Jasmine Tea!
Tildy - I hope all settles down for you, I had really heavy bleeding with Cooper at 7 weeks and they couldn't find any reason at all, very frustrating!
Katiegirl - Are you on a countdown? I am!!
Hi to anyone else if I have forgotten!
Well, yesterday I had the fright of my life............We have 6 foot picket fences that I have always considered a bit of a fortress. Well my DH and FIL were doing some plumbing work on the weekend and DH was in and out of the front gate, which we have a latch on. Yesterday MIL left DS on bottom steps playing with pegs, came up to me washing dishes, FIL brought mail in, walked up stairs handed mail over said Where is DS, we said on sitting on step, he walked back down stairs, no DS. Quick scan around the yard (this was all in a matter of about 2mins). My heart started to race, when we heard a horn BEEEPP!!!! Ran for the gate realised the lock was off, 3 of us run outside to see a lady carrying my DS across to us! She was shaking and said she nearly ran over him. I couldn't believe what had just happened, still can't. The thought of him being taken away from me is too much to think about, it has really shaken me up. Hence why I think the dreaming of our dog last night was significant yet again. I guess my warning to others is, never for a moment think you are a paranoid mother!! Check, check and check again to make sure your or anyone else's kids are safe. Right now I feel like the most blessed person in the world to have my DS.
sorry for the copy and paste, I'm a bit overwhelmed at present.
I just got back from my first appointment at the high risk fetal medicine unit. My head is spinning. The doctor spent 40 mins with me, went through my blood tests and the autopsy report. Previously I had thought that the loss may have been due to blood clotting, but apparently the autopsy says the most likely cause is bleeding behind the placenta, due to its low-lying position. My previous OB never mentioned this to me, which makes me a bit angry. Anyway, the kicker is, if I'm treated for clotting, it increases the risk of bleeding. Great. Also, he thinks that I had a vertical incision with the birth which means I can't have a natural birth this time, so it's probably C-sections from now on he said that with each pregnancy the risk of placenta accretia will increase so by the fourth (which best case scenario is my third child) it will be about 20%. I can't quite believe it, not even 28 yet and staring down a possible hysterectomy if I
have the number of children I want, and that's assuming all goes well from now on.
Anyway, he booked me in for a NT scan with them and said they'll try and see if the placenta is low-lying, and if it is they'll look at ceasing the blood-thinning medication. Tildy, I asked if you could see placenta praevia before this and he said the placenta is 'everywhere' at this stage so don't be convinced you'll get it. This is the prominent OB in Canberra so I trust him, and I think I'll ditch my current OB and do everything through them. It's a public hospital so not quite as nice as private but at least I'll feel safe.
Rozzie, I can't believe your luck. I think you should definitely stay with the specialists if you feel more confident with them. I wouldn't worry too much about going public. Millions of people do it and as long as you get a healthy baby at the end of it, who cares. I think once you've experienced the kind of loss we all have, the niceties of birth with all the bells and whistles loses its appeal. I read a funny blog the other day from a lady who was going through pregnancy after still birth. Her midwife asked her if she had prepared a birth plan. She took out a piece of scrap paper from her handbag and wrote 'bring home live baby' and then handed it to the midwife. I laughed because it sums up exactly what's important, who cares about anything else as long as we get that end result.
That's so true... I don't care about pain, drugs, sharing rooms I just want a healthy baby and the chance for more down the track. I can't quite grasp why this is seeming to be so difficult!!
btw Hgirs, I bet your heart has not slowed since your scare. I have never had anything that scary happen to me with my DS but I did think I had lost him in a kids playcentre a few months ago. Normally I would not take my eyes off him but all the other mothers were happy to let their kids run amok so I thought I was just being paranoid because it was not long after I lost Charlie and I was supersentive. There were kids and adults everywhere and we couldn't find him for about 10mins after everyone had gone. It turned out he was upstairs in this room I didn't even know existed playing a computer game. It was the most sickening feeling and I swore after that I would never worry about how paranoid I was being, or what other mothers might think. Our little ones are way too precious for that. I am just so relieve for you that your DS is ok, try not to beat yourself up too much with the 'what ifs'. You are only human and unfortunately stuff like this happens. I bet DS has been getting plenty of extra hugs and kisses since!
I know Rozzie, you would think with what you've already been through that you've earned a dream pregnancy, not one filled with stress and worry. I wish there was something I could say to make it less stressful for you. At least you have lots of support here from people who understand what you're going through. Take care of yourself. xox
sorry girls I am home with nothing to do today and have posting like a madwoman! Sue I only just read your discussion with Rozzie re endometriosis. You should definitely ask about that. My best friend hadn't been able to fall PG for about 2 yrs and had a laparoscopy and was diagnosed with it. She had to have another to remove it and then fell PG straight away. She had a MC and then fell PG again straight away and now has a healthy and happy 16mo. She is actually ttc again and is about to go and get it checked again because she is having trouble. Another mother I know had similar story as well. If you have got it, I think its pretty easy to get rid of as long as it is not in the actual overies. I agree with Rozzie, I don't think it shows on a US unless very extreme. Weird that you would be put on IVF without checking it though??
Rozzie - I am so sorry that you are having to go through this.... why can't we have H & H Pregnancies, instead of constant worries. I will have my fingers crossed that with your scan that in its not low lying.....
Mrs Robbo, thanks for your advice. I think it would be strange if I havent been tested (had so many tests!!!) before starting IVF. Though I think before I started IVF, that my local GP sent me off to have the tubes checked with dye etc and I think this might have been done at the same time. I am going to the local GP on Monday to check. Though with my first session of IVF I fell pregnant (though I lost the angel at 12 weeks). You would think that pregnancy wouldnt have been achieved....
Sue,
They probably would have seen any endo when they did the tubes dye test, I'm assuming they did a laparoscapy and would have had a look around at the same time. Hoping that's the case because endo can be nasty.
Rozzie - Did they put in your medical notes that you did have a vertical incision? Just wondering because your OB said 'he thinks', can they find out for sure?? I can understand your concern, esp wanting a bigger family. I have heard that it is very common to have the classical section with preemies, I just hope all will be ok for your future babies.
Mrs Robbo - I hate that you have felt that gut wrenching feeling too, but I guess unfortunately there will be more of those times throughout our lives! And yes I was only complaining that day about how horrible a night DS had just had, now I couldn't care less if I had no sleep, he is here, that is ALL that matters.
I am having a weird cycle this time, am 11dpo, yesterday started really light spotting, temp still up, this morning temp has come down a bit, still spotting. I am assuming AF is on her way (*itch!)but I have never had this happen before, so I am patiently waiting for tomorrow's temp and see what happens, I think I am clutching to all the straws in my cupboard!!
hey girs,
no personals and this will be a cut and paste in both preg and ttc sides sorry! Headspace has completely gone to meltdown, Madisons service is on friday, I knew it was coming sometime around now but this last week seems to have moved so quickly and when i realised that she was going to have her official goodbye the "finality" of the last 3 weeks has proven to be a bit much. Coping in the day and not so great still at night, its the killer. Can't sleep, wake up exhausted the next day. i think that is why i am trying to keep myself busy so i can get my body going. Dh and i have been not so great either, i really just don't think he gets that we both are going through the emotional part but i am dealing with the physical also, and THAT is harder. and he has said when am i going to have time for him, i exploded. I asked him what exactly he had in mind going by what i have been through the last 2 weeks. I'd be 25 weeks this week and that is hard to get out of my mind. I go back to work next week after 3 weeks off and THAT is hard to think about. I don't think i am ready and am really nervous about it...actually,nervous, no....scared to get back out there again. This week has been the realisation of how real my hurt is and i really think the last 2 weeks have been spent in some blind denial. i just don't understand why we had to lose her too. My daughter asked why we can't bring our babies home like everyone else does, how do i answer that? So, i have just avoided being here although i have so far felt it really important to stay here, this week week felt i could'nt cope with it. But today just thought screw it, thats what we are all here for...take care guys!
xx jo
Oh Jo , you have me in tears, I remember those feelings so deeply, but I can only hope you feel us holding your hand through all of this. I don't know what you say to your daughter... and I too had moments like that with my DH, still do sometimes. You are right a lot of men just can't quite comprehend the magnitude of the mother's loss, and it is so very primal on every level, emotional, physical, social. Have got any sleeping pills?? I tried them, they didn't really work for me, but maybe I just didn't take enough, I was worried I wouldn't wake for my DS. Sleeping is so hard and the nights are just horrible. There is nothing I can say that is going to make this journey easier for you, just know you are constantly cared for.
I must be in a mood today. I was a tiny bit snippy with DH this morning (although less so than I am normally! I think I've been such a mellow good girl towards him these last couple months) and am very easily upset right now. I believe it's going to be another day of occupying my chair at work but not much more.
I don't know why you've had to go through all this, Jo. It's just not fair, and that's the long and short of it. I won't say that things happen for a reason or tell you how good the odds are that things will go well for you next time or try to say "At least you have..." or any of the other nonsense that people said to me that made me feel they were trivializing my grief. I don't believe any of those things, but rather, I just feel that it's so incredibly and stupendously unfair.
Helen, Sue, Rozzie, MrsRobbo, danek -- I've read your posts so I'm not ignoring you, but I'm feeling drained and crabby. Hope you don't mind if I just send you a virtual And of course, congratulations to Cindee.
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that is fantastic news, here's hoping for a smooth journey!
I am sorry....
Did they put in your medical notes that you did have a vertical incision? Just wondering because your OB said 'he thinks', can they find out for sure?? I can understand your concern, esp wanting a bigger family. I have heard that it is very common to have the classical section with preemies, I just hope all will be ok for your future babies.
, you have me in tears, I remember those feelings so deeply
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