Chris, just to give you hope I have had 2 children past the age of 40. Mind you I have had 8 miscarriages between the two of them and then another 1 since. I am now 46 and still hopeful of just one more sticky baby. I have had every m/c test they could think of and a lap/hysteroscopy/HSG and everything came back clear. I treid clomid 2 yrs ago and it did nothing. So we went back to TTC au naturel.
Hope, welcome to the group and I hope you find support and information here as well.
Hope and ChrisW - welcome to our thread. I am sorry for your losses. No matter what the time, any loss is hard. I have found the most supportive group of ladies in this thread and hope you find the same experience.
Hi to Aries, SuzieQ, angelic, blessed, samcougar and everyone else.
Well I dearly wanted to post that I was #4 of the Cs but AF arrived on Thursday morning. The day after we had seen the FS so it was off to the clinic for a b/t for me for Day 1. It did catch me a bit by surprise and was thinking I would have another 5 to 7 days before AF would arrive (and secretly I was hoping that we were pg anyway).
The FS was enthusiastic about doing some monitored/supported natural cycles before moving onto IVF. Last time we saw her - 2 years ago - there was no discussion about that as an option. It seems Ryan's pg has at least given her some hope that we can fall pg naturally as well. I was relieved as I wasn't prepared mentally to start with the injections although it looks like I will be doing some progesterone support post O with these monitored cycles. I had a really bad headache on Day 1 and day 2, bordering on migraine like because of nausea. It's still hanging around today but not as bad. I think this is oestrogen withdrawal as I used to get it occasionally when I was on the pill, but usually from about day 3 or 4. Along with that I have had a huge emotional reaction to going back to the FS that has caught me by surprise. I feel a bit like we have gone backwards and really have very little hope that we can fall pg using IVF but I also know the stats show that we have 2 to 3 times better odds of an IVF conception than natural. Anyway, I am going to move forward as this is what we decided we are going to do. The difference this time around I keep telling myself is that the FS is going to be working with my TCM therapist so we will have a collaborative approach - hopefully the best of eastern and western medicine.
Anyway, that's enough rambling from me. I hope everybody is well. Sending everyone lots of
Cheryl, Sorry AF arrived hun.
Hope the FS's new attitude and change in circumstance due to Ryan's existance is all that is needed hun. Good Luck and thinking of you xoxo
Still lurking everyone. love to all, new and oldies!
Yes, sorry, I am still around Thanks for thinking of me
Well, if I'm on a normal cycle this time around, I should be Oing in the next couple of days. I'm sneakily getting DH to DTD with me Surprised him the other night when he got home - candles all up the hallway leading to the bedroom where I was waiting... Need I say more?
Had my hospital appointment the other day. The doctor pretty much told me what I heard from here anyway - the "low grade changes" on my pap smear mean I need to go have another in a year. I didn't even bring up the fact that I'm TTC and might be pregnant then, she did! She said if I'm about 7 months pg, they can still do the smear (didn't know that, but okay!) and if they think it might be too dangerous for bubs, they can wait til I'm ready Also, I'm having an ultrasound on the 17th to check for PCOS, because I mentioned that I have very irregular periods. I'm looking at that as a good thing. If I have PCOS, then it can be treated and they'll look after me (hopefully), and if I don't have it, then it's ruled out.
You know, I don't usually talk this much about myself in real life
Welcome to Hope and ChrisW, I'm so sorry that you find yourself here but I hope your stay is a short one. I'm sure like I did you will find some wonderful support in here.
Chez - sorry that AF turned up. The collaborative approach sounds like a good idea, I really hope you can have some luck with a natural cycle
cTenibear - sounds like its all happening at your house!! I really hope this is the cycle for you guys!
SusieQ - glad to hear that you are offically back on the TTC train, hope it's a short journey for you!
Big hello to samcougar, angelic, Aries, blessed, Gigi, crumpet, cmeglles dory and any one else lurking about!!
Cheryl I am sorry to hear AF showed up. It is a positive step forward though with the FS. Hopefully with that little bit of added help it may be just enough to push you past the goal post. None of us like to face the thought of needing that help but if it helps meet the goal then go for it. By the time we sought help I was considered too old by our clinic guidelines in Hobart. They stop at your 44th birthday .
Teni that does sound so romantic. I had a friend on another board many years ago who had a DH going thru the same thing so one night she did the same only she used rose petals as a trail and candles in the bedroom. It resulted in Kai who is now 4 years old. He was born a few months after Samuel. The day I found out I was pregnant with Samuel she had baby Skylar delivered at 21 weeks and too early to survive so Kai was her blessing from above.
On the subject of pap smears. If you had the smear soon after delivery then the changes could just be normal due to healing after the birth. I had that after Tash and Nic being so close together. I was told they could take 10 years to change into anything worth doing anything about. But 2 years later I had a routine pap smear and it came back as needing to be checked in 3 months time. I was phoned after the 3 months with that news as they didd't tell me at the time so I wouldn't worry for 3 months. So I had the repeat and it came back as CIN I in just 3 months. I saw my OB who did a colposcopy the following week. He had me in theatre a week later for a LLETZ and that came back as CIN II so talk about fast changing!! So I now tell women not to ignore pap mears. They can change in less than 10 years.
The result of mine was.. hemorrhage 10 days later and more surgery and half my cervix removed. I was told if I fell pg again I would either need a cervical stitch to hold the pg or i would need a c sec as it wouldn't give. I am in the half way group lol. Annabelle I had a C sec due to non-progression over 3cms but she was so tangled in her cord she never would have come out vaginally anyhow. Samuel and Daniel were both VBAC but I would stick at 3cms then the OB had to stretch the scar tissue to get it past that. Labour is always very quick after that.
So that's my story.
oh and from what I have been told by Drs here there s no point in pap smears when you are pg because of course it will show abnormal cells to normal as there are many changes taking place during pg.
AFM I think due t the O pains I had 12 hrs apart that I O'd from each side. The nausea and tiredness is high gather due to 2 corpus luteums (one on each side) but I gather neither of the old eggs was good coz at 10 dpo when I have been pg I have had light lines on Forelife extra and this time just nothing. Clear stark white. With al lthe BD we had our bases covered so to speak so must just be my old eggs. Very nice loking chart though
I am still stalking you all! Sorry to the newcomers that find themselves here Congratulations to those who get out of here lol and hello to Everyone else
I am doing ok, what more can I say? It is really hard though knowing this month there is NO CHANCE of a pregnancy!! AF came the other day. Of course she did, If she didn't then that definitely would have been immaculate conception! lol. My cycles are still relatively regular, (32-33 days) even though I have gone off the herbs.. I think I had mid cycle spotting last month due to stress.. Stress does awful things. Anyway, now I am off the TTC path I have been drinking and not feeling guilty! Don't worry though, I am still looking after myself.. Got exams for the next 3wks running so I am trying to stay healthy and focussed! I can't believe I am almost through my 1st semester! Time goes so fast! Anyway, enough drunken ramblings from me (No I'm not drunk, I am only on my 1st red wine ) for those who are UTD and for everyone else
Also Dory, a special note for you - Thank you so much for all the beautiful complimenting and encouraging comments on my blog.. They are much appreciated
Thanks for thinking of me 
Surprised him the other night when he got home - candles all up the hallway leading to the bedroom where I was waiting... Need I say more? 
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