Cheryl I am sorry to hear AF showed up. It is a positive step forward though with the FS. Hopefully with that little bit of added help it may be just enough to push you past the goal post. None of us like to face the thought of needing that help but if it helps meet the goal then go for it. By the time we sought help I was considered too old by our clinic guidelines in Hobart. They stop at your 44th birthday .

Teni that does sound so romantic. I had a friend on another board many years ago who had a DH going thru the same thing so one night she did the same only she used rose petals as a trail and candles in the bedroom. It resulted in Kai who is now 4 years old. He was born a few months after Samuel. The day I found out I was pregnant with Samuel she had baby Skylar delivered at 21 weeks and too early to survive so Kai was her blessing from above.
On the subject of pap smears. If you had the smear soon after delivery then the changes could just be normal due to healing after the birth. I had that after Tash and Nic being so close together. I was told they could take 10 years to change into anything worth doing anything about. But 2 years later I had a routine pap smear and it came back as needing to be checked in 3 months time. I was phoned after the 3 months with that news as they didd't tell me at the time so I wouldn't worry for 3 months. So I had the repeat and it came back as CIN I in just 3 months. I saw my OB who did a colposcopy the following week. He had me in theatre a week later for a LLETZ and that came back as CIN II so talk about fast changing!! So I now tell women not to ignore pap mears. They can change in less than 10 years.
The result of mine was.. hemorrhage 10 days later and more surgery and half my cervix removed. I was told if I fell pg again I would either need a cervical stitch to hold the pg or i would need a c sec as it wouldn't give. I am in the half way group lol. Annabelle I had a C sec due to non-progression over 3cms but she was so tangled in her cord she never would have come out vaginally anyhow. Samuel and Daniel were both VBAC but I would stick at 3cms then the OB had to stretch the scar tissue to get it past that. Labour is always very quick after that.
So that's my story.
oh and from what I have been told by Drs here there s no point in pap smears when you are pg because of course it will show abnormal cells to normal as there are many changes taking place during pg.

AFM I think due t the O pains I had 12 hrs apart that I O'd from each side. The nausea and tiredness is high gather due to 2 corpus luteums (one on each side) but I gather neither of the old eggs was good coz at 10 dpo when I have been pg I have had light lines on Forelife extra and this time just nothing. Clear stark white. With al lthe BD we had our bases covered so to speak so must just be my old eggs. Very nice loking chart though