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    Ok warning whinging post.........................



    Today is CD16 and still no O. My last cycle I didn't O until CD22 but I truely believe that my body was still sorting itself out after the pregnancy. So having taken Clomid on days 4-8 why isn't it making me O now!!!!!!! Isn't that what it is supposed to do??? I just want to be normal, is that too much to ask! I really need it to happen this month. I don't think I could manage AF again.

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    morning all, thankyou for your support
    I am feeling better today, the bleeding stopped last night and have had no more so far today. Flutters are getting stronger and more frequent so not concerned. I know I have a sensative cervix hence the 2 huge bleeds with Shelby and the 7 week bleed with Max. The only reason this one freaked me out so much is that I haven't let DH near me since I got a +hpt, as that is what caused my bleeding last time so I know its not from bding. I have a feeling it was probably from all the running around I did grape picking

    I am going to the GP on friday, (only appointment this week) so might request another scan if I have any more bleeding.

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    Dearest Clare: What a absolute pain in the behind. I feel for you sweetie, I know how seeing blood can cause such a horrible sense of fear. I just remember how petrified I was a week ago when I had the pinkish CM so I can totally understand how worried you must be. It is true what all the other ladies have said though, it is so common but when it is happening to you, it doesn't help to know that it is common. I am so glad that it has stopped. That is fantastic. And the fact that you are feeling flutters is a great sign. Take it easy you hear me, no picking grapes you crazy woman, I know it must be hard with Shelby to take care of, but try to take it as easy as you can.


    Lynn: I am sorry hun that you are having to wait for O. I don't really know how clomid works but don't give up just yet. I know how hard it is waiting. People say, relax and it will happen but when you are a childless mother, every day that passes seems like one day too many. I just hope that your body behaves and that you O soon. Take care of yourself honey.

    Tess: how are you babe? Are you feeling ok at the moment. Good luck for your appointment on 23rd. I know how down you can feel after giving birth. My belly is still huge and floppy which annoys me all the time. Going back to the gym is also a good way to get your mind off life for an hour on so.

    Mel: Great talking to you last night. I think our theory about DH's ex is spot on. Hope you don't mind but I talked to DH about is (in the context of his ex girlfriend contacting him) and he agreed, he thinks there is another bloke in the picture. As we said, no matter the motive, this may be a chance for DH to see his kids a bit more often so that has to be a positive. How are you feeling today? I hope you are having a nice relaxing day.

    Bailey: I am really happy for you that DS's party was a success. I know how you feel about family events. It always feel like there is a special person missing, but don't worry, they are always there with you. I can't wait to see you this weekend either.

    Dream: I can't imagine just how fed up you must be with the routine you are going through. I hope so much that this month is it for you. I know AF isn't due until Friday but don't give up just yet. I only got the faintest BFP 2 days before AF and then only a light one on the Day AF was due. With my first pregancy I did't get a conclusive BFP until 7 days after AF was due. What I am getting at is that it is not over until the witch sings, I have everything crossed for you and I am throwing bucket loads of your way.

    Well so much for me making it to the pregnancy thread, I am off there for the first time now so wish me luck.

    Love Spring

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    Great to hear that the bleeding has stopped Clare.I have everything crossed that that is the last bit of blood you see until you see a mucous plug between 38-42 weeks! Thinking of you and sending lots of positives your way.

    Lynn, it is not a given that you will ovulate on days 13-15 on clomid. You ARE normal! I for one don't! I have taken 3 rounds of clomid the first one I ovulated on cd21. The second I ovulated on cd19 and the third on cd16. I know many practitioners seem very sure that you will ovulate on days 13-15 but it certainly is not uncommon to ovulate later. Are you using opk's? Are you having any pelvic discomfort? I know for me I got heaps of pelvic discomfort on the first round of clomid (I conceived Eggbert on my first cycle of clomid) but the two cycles I used clomid this TTC journey I had no discomfort and as I said ovulated on cd19 and cd16. If you would like to take a peek at what is happening is it possible to ask your obs for a follicle scan? It's an amazing thing to see those nice ripe ovaries. I did it on my first cycle this journey just because I had increased my doseage to 100mgs from 50mgs and wanted to ensure we weren't looking at four ripe follies! It will happen just keep doing those opk's and I will be sending some "lovely ripe follicle" vibes your way!

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    Dream: :hugs: This is really really tough my love. I can hear your turmoil and confusion at what path to take. Ultimately only you can decide that. However, I will add my bob's worth!
    I understand about the prednisone - it's not a walk in the park my skin is not looking as radiant as the Oil of Ulan ad either. The emotions get so out of whack and yep the spare tyre isn't just on the car any more. I also understand about lines in the sand. As you know my husband and I have drawn ours. Another mid tri loss and I need to hang up my ovaries and that would be tough. You are on what you need to be on to give another pregnancy the best possible chance. You know you are fertile so it IS only a matter of time and we both know that in the healthiest and most fertile of us it can take months to conceive and that is normal. It is so frustrating and saddening though when that period arrives or the preg test is negative. I so understand Nat :hugs:. I think I would talk to my husband if you did not conceive this month and throw about the idea of trying again or stopping. Only you know if you feel you can keep going on this path. Just know though my love you are going to have some really soulful, caring, compassionate women to share your journey with. We will all be hear to cheer you on or conversley to prop you up. Whatever your decision. An old lady once said to me "you can't go back and do it again" - I often think of that but again only you know if you can do it with the toll that it absolutely does take on your body, your heart and your emotions.
    I am sending you lots of love and strength.

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    Oh Deb thank you so much, and you are always so right. I have spoken to Dh last night for some time and as he said to me you have been "wrong one other time" so lets wait till the blood test!!! I hate it when they do that.....but he is right so I will have blood test friday now as tomorrow on top of everything else my dad has cancer and we are off to the specialist. DH and I have made a decision that if the witch sings then I will have a break for six months or til Jul/Aug and have a go then as I said I seem to fall around this time. This will give me time to "put the spare back on the car" and feel a little normal for a while. Mean while arrange surrogacy stuff, there is alot to do.

    You make me laugh and thank you for that, I wish I could be more positive for everyone at the moment but im sure I will be back to old nat soon.

    To all you wonderful women, thank you for all your positive support, I hope on friday I can post how wrong I have been... that will make my day!

    Clare Im so glad the bleeding has stopped and whats with the grape picking? no wonder you have bleeding....get yourself on that lounge and relax!!!!! I hope you got some good grapes anyway!

    Mel After your post I do have one question with regards to the Ex......have you been watching desperate housewives? If not, you need to it sounds just like your situation.

    Tess I will be thinking of you on the 23rd, I hope you find what you need. And the weight....I know how you feel, just be kind to yourself dont be to hard to soon. I hope your day is going ok.

    Lynn You are so normal as Deb said to me it takes time to fall and I know I know we dont want to wait but if it means a healthy baby then....I am thinking of you and send big vibes for that big O soon.

    Spring Im going to have a look over the fence! Im glad your still posting here as well

    Well Happy Valentines Day to you all I know its a bit corny but a bit of love is always a good thing. Hope you have all had a good day, talk soon xxx

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    I hope on Friday that your you get a positive too Nat. I have everything crossed for you...

    Well, today was my first day on the CSIRO diet. Yep, I have managed to acrue an extra 9kilos since beginning prednisone. I need to do something and this diet can be followed in pregnancy so... Here's to a skinnier me!

    I have had a toughie today so I am off for the night to have a nice glass of red (or maybe two!)

    See you all tomorrow...

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    Thanks everyone. I will try and relax and stay positive and hopefully get my o very soon.

    Deb - yes I am using OPK and so far............nothing. I am also using maybe baby and checking CM. I am seeing my ob on Monday which is CD21 so I will chat to him about a scan. I just hope that I have o'd by then. Enjoy your glass of wine.

    Nat - I'm so happy that you and DH had a chat and that you are going to give it another go in August. I hope the break is just what you need and you get your BFP

    Well after my post this morning, I went shopping. I feel a little bit better - retail therapy is always good.

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    Hi everyone, hope you all had a nice Valentine's Day - I was a lucky girl, DH had flowers delivered to me at work and we went out for dinner to a really nice Indian Restaurant in the city. Other than that my day was ok, my boss still hasnt acknowledged to me that I have resigned. I am not sure (Spring you might know) but I thought there was some sort of legality that he had to.

    Clare - I am sure you wont need it as I think everything is fine, but I still wish you the best for you appointment on Friday. The movements have got to be a good thing, but seeing is believing and I imagine you wont be completely confident until you have a scan. Take care of yourself, and try to rest... fruit picking of any kind is totally out of the question

    Lynn - I am sorry you are having a tough day, glad the shopping helped though. I know its really hard but the other girls are right and it does take time. We have chatted about how hard I am finding it not succeeding, so to be honest I dont think I can say anything to make you feel any better, but I would like to say just be kind to yourself and dont beat yourself up. There is still a little bit of hope so Iwill be keeping my fingers crossed for you

    Spring - It was great chatting with you. I definitely think the boyfriend theory is quite possible. We would be so happy, maybe it would give her more to do with her time than cause trouble with DH. But anyway, he has decided he will tell her that if they are getting "stressed" and want to see him to get them to call him and one of us will go and pick them up, he thinks that it will show them that he is there for them when they need him rather than just making it a set plan iykwim, then it will save arguments with her as well. But the only thing that makes me wonder about that theory is the Xmas/Easter togetherness thing, why would her new boyfriend want to or want her to spend those times with her ex hubbie? I guess it will all come to light at some stage in the future, it always does. Hey, did you contact the girl from your work?

    Nat - I am glad you and DH had a talk and worked out what you are going to do. I still have my fingers crossed for you though. Whatever your journey becomes I am glad you will be sticking around. I dont watch desperate housewives, although I can imagine. The whole thing sounds like something from days of our lives, but i am not exaggerating about her... most of the stuff she has done to DH and the kids I have left out simply cause my posts are long enough already, we would be on page 15 if I told all, she is nasty!

    Bailey - I am going to do temping permanently. I think it is the best thing for me at the moment, less stress and I would have more flexibility. Really all I want to do is have a baby and basically just need to earn money until it happens and I am confident I will get as much or as little work as I like. Lets hope I am not living in a cardboard box in the near future (LOL)!

    Tess - That is tough that your bosses wife is pregnant, especially being due around the same time. I cant blame your wanting to avoid him, I think it is a little unfair for him to discuss it with you too much. While you are right he is entitled to be happy about his own child, knowing what you have been through (and still are going through) you would think he would be a little more sensitive about it. Work is a tough thing, its something we have to do but really all any of us want is to be at home changing dirty nappies and begging for sleep.

    Well good night to all, I am off to have a shower and an early night for a change (well only the early night is for a change, I shower regularly LOL).

    Mel

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    Good morning!
    Mel - it sounds like you had a lovely valentines day. I LOVE Indian! I hope that things settle soon with your husbands ex. It sounds really messy and certainly not what you need right now...

    Clare: Thinking of you and hoping that the spotting has disappeared completely now. I wish this hadn't happened. It just makes pregnancy more stressful - something none of us in here need...

    Lyn: Let's hope that that LH surge is coming for you over the next few days. I am thinking you would have popped that egg by Monday - though for me I got a positive opk on cd21 as I said. Are you having a progesterone level done 7 days post ovulation? Thinking of you Lyn

    Nat: How are you today Sweet woman? Tomorrow is blood test day - you know I have everything crossed for you.

    I will pop back in a bit later on. I got some gorgeous red roses last night for Valentines day so that put a smile on this dial!

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    Morning everyone
    The bleeding has stopped, I don't know why I freaked really, I should be used to it by now. They should write in these preggo books to expect bleeding in the first tri seen as it's so common, but then I suppose all these ladies lucky enough not to have it would freak! No more grape picking for me EVER AGAIN!

    Spring - so glad so see your bubba is doing well, its good you're having regular scans for peace of mind.

    Mel - I didn't realise you had resigned (sorry must have missed that thread) good on you, my boss didn't acknowledge it either but after she went around telling everyone I was leaving because I was pregnant I think she knew there was no going back. Sounds like you had a lovely Valentines Day. I let my DP off the hook every year, He bought me a rose bush one year (which I didn't water) so he doesn't buy gifts anymore. lol

    Lynn - fingers crossed you "o" soon. After having Shelby I never went back to a 28 day cycle (like clock work before) always averaged 35 / 36 days. I am sure your eggie is just around the corner.

    Dream - all the best for Friday, I have my fingers crossed for you.

    Gotta go, Shelby has worked out how to reorganise my cupboards, and furniture. I think I have a removalist on my hands!

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    Thanks Deb. I hope it happens in the next few days too! Last month I had a BT to check prog levels. The first one was at CD19 but I knew I hadn't o'd yet and the level was 2.6 but then I had another one done 5 days after O and it was 26.2. My ob said that it confirmed that I O'd but I don't know how high the numbers should be. Is this good/bad???

    Clare - I am so glad that the bleeding has stopped.

    Well sounds like a lot of you were spoilt for valentines day. I asked my DH the day before what I was getting and he said a huge box of......................nothing! Ha. That is just my husband. We don't really do anything for valentines day so I don't get too disappointed but if he forgot the anniversary...........well that is another story!!! Happy for you all you chickies who were spoilt
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    Hi Lyn,
    How are those opk's looking today?
    I think you said you got a positive last month on cd21 is that right?
    If you did then we would count ovulation from cd22 (meaning that is most likely that that is the day you ovulated) so you would get your progesterone done on cd28-29. Did you get your level done on cd24?

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    Sorry Deb, I think I have confused you (and me!!!)

    I had a BT on CD19 and my prog level was 2.6. I then got a positive OPK on CD20 and my temps went up on CD22. I had another BT on CD27 and my prog level was 26.2.

    Today (CD17) I got another negative on the OPK so maybe I will get my positive on CD20 again????? It just seems kinda late, doesn't it?

    Would it not have been easier if we were made all the same so it made having a baby easy??????????????? Oh that's right, I forgot a man made us lol!!!!!!

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    Just to confuse everything I just checked and have EWCM. Could I have this but no positive OPK? DH and I DTD last night so could it just be that - sorry if TMI

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    Okay, why I was asking... It would seem you ovulated on cd21-22 would you say? So, the progesterone level was done 5-6dpo. So, the level is lower than what it would be had it been done 7 dpo. We know that progesterone levels peak 7 days prior to menstruation.
    A progesterone level of 26 suggest that ovulation did occur. So, yes you did ovulate. Did your obs tell you what she/he likes progesterone levels to be post ovulation? It does vary from practitioner to practitioner.
    This cycle I would count 7 days from the day after the positive opk and get your test done. That should give a really good indicator of what your progesterone is. Some obs will increase your clomid dose depending on your progesterone results.
    I would think that you will ovulate around the time you did last month or perhaps a little bit earlier. The first cycle on clomid isn't always an indicator of what youwill do the next month. I am barracking for those follicles of yours!

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    EWCM is a great sign - as you know it can start a few days prior to ovulation so this fits with the picture. It could be from your amorous evening but it does look slightly different hey - the really stretchy between the fingers thing... It's gonna happen soon Lyn

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    Gorgeous Women it's time for a new thread...
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