TTC AFTER Late Loss/Recurrent Miscarriage/ Stillbirth Sept 2009

[CharlieB]

Dh and i had a arguement about him going away for the weekend and i dont want him to go coz im not ready for him to be away all night yet, and yeah.......

I'm sorry to hear this crumpet, I completely understand you being upset, I'm sure its completely normal to want to have your DH close to you ATM

I agree 100% with beata70 - if you looked up needy in the dictionary - there I would be, waving at you!
I miss my DH like crazy even when he goes to work! I have a girlfriend who keeps asking me to go and stay with her for a few days, she is a plane flight away. But I keep refusing cause I can't bear the idea of being away from my DH at the moment.
Good advice from beata, hope you can organise friend/family to be with you if DH does end up going away.

Huge to you crumpet

[crumpet]

Crumpet, if I could reach across the screen I'd give you a big hug. I know the days/weeks after a loss are the hardest, you feel so fragile and needy, well I did anyway. Anytime DF popped out anywhere even for a couple of hours I'd get upset. I felt so needy and so alone when I was on my own. So I'm not surprised at you for being upset with your DH. Is there a GF that can come over to stay with you or can you stay with your parents, or a sibling? Company is very important ATM for you, you don't want to feel alone hun. Just remember, anytime you need a hug ask for one and I'll send you a hundred!!

thanks hun...... i had BIG issues when he went back to work, i was having anxiety quite badly but he made sure he finished early and had days off here and there to ease me back into being home alone during the day, which im ok with, its night that is the big issue now.....

we ended up compromising, he is going to go for the day sunday..... so then he doesnt miss out completely, but he isnt away at night...
not exactly what he wanted but after a lot of tears and sobbing he understood!

I'm sorry to hear this crumpet, I completely understand you being upset, I'm sure its completely normal to want to have your DH close to you ATM

I agree 100% with beata70 - if you looked up needy in the dictionary - there I would be, waving at you!
I miss my DH like crazy even when he goes to work! I have a girlfriend who keeps asking me to go and stay with her for a few days, she is a plane flight away. But I keep refusing cause I can't bear the idea of being away from my DH at the moment.
Good advice from beata, hope you can organise friend/family to be with you if DH does end up going away.

Huge to you crumpet

lol...sorry hun had to laugh at the dictionary comment!!

hun it hasnt been long so dont feel like u should be away from DH just yet..... give it a bit longer and u might well feel like going to see ur girlfriend, but i think u need to give it a bit more time. in time u will gradually feel better when DH goes to work, and then u will feel strong enough to go to visit ur GF.......

AFM: so arguement with Dh is sorted......
today i have a US to check up on what my cervix is like pre pregnancy so my OB can see how things change...... not overly excited seeing as it will be an internal scan dildo camera here i come

[Aries]

Hi girls - still here just lurking......... all is ok atm & on track. I just wanted to pop in to say to Beata that I am so excited for you for Tuesday and am wishing you every ounce of luck for the big day! How exciting to meet your little one finally. Will be thinking of you
Chat soon girls

Take care
xoxoxoxox

[Miss.B]

Aries, thanks sweetheart I'm glad everything is on track with you hun and I wish that one day soon I'll be wishing you the same when you're having your own bub! Big hugs and know that you're often on my thoughts, I really pray for a BFP for you hun x

Crumpet, I'm glad you were able to compromise with your DH, that's what it's really all about in a good relationship!

Hello to everyone else, spreading lots of and in here for my lovely friends.

I almost forgot I have to go for this BT before Tuesday, where is my brain

B xxx

[Chez67]

Hi ladies

It is normally quiet in here - I can't believe the number of posts this week! Glad to hear that everyone seems to be doing ok. We're all at different stages but it is so good that we have found this support group - sometimes it is the only thing that keeps me balanced! So thanks everyone

AFM, AF arrived last night so my hopes are dashed once again. I did a HPT Thursday morning and it was a BFN so I was expecting it but it didn't make it any easier. I have been so very emotional these last few days. Crying over good news stories like the one about the baby elephant that the zoo keepers thought had died during labour. I hate feeling so emotional and out of control. And some cycles are better than others. But I did have a talk to DH Thursday night about going back to IVF. I am a little cautious given the poor result we had from the 3 cycles we did, but a friend has just done an antagonist cycle and have been thinking about going back to do one. The FS we saw in Sydney had suggested it but later changed his mind. There is a new IVF clinic here under the FS we saw in Canberra (no more driving to Sydney for pick-up or transfer) and so am thinking we might give it another shot. I was surprised that DH was supportive. When we discussed it previously he was dead against anymore cycles. He saw how they affected me physically and emotionally and didn't want to put me through that again. I am not sure why he has changed his mind. He just said that this is the year we are going to try everything to fall pg. I am not in a hurry to go back as I don't feel physically ready - I want to be much healthier and stronger to give us the best chance. And I am going to talk to my TCM about it. Maybe it is something we might do in 2 or 3 months. However, I am very aware that getting a cycle started can take a while depending on FSH levels etc. Anyway, enough rambling from me.

Gigi1 - I am so glad that the baby shower went well. It sounds like you got through it with absolute grace and charm. Well done you! As for your brother - I hope things can work themselves out. You really don't need the stress that comes with family arguments at the moment. Take care of yourself hun. I do worry about you

Beata - I am so clueless sometimes! I had forgotten that you c/s was booked for the 16th. We lost Ryan on the 17th and I remember thinking that the dates were so close. Best of luck for everything on Tuesday. I hope that all goes smoothly and that you are holding your little one in your arms in no time! Please let us know how things go.

cmeglles - Bermuda! How exciting! I have been thinking about booking a beach house for a week as the weather gets colder. I love the beach at winter - walking along the beach when no-one else is there and coming back to hot chocolate and snuggling up by the open fire place to warm up! Maybe during our uni break. In the meantime we have a few long weekends coming up and family visiting which will be nice.

Aries - hi! Glad to hear that all is on track with you. Hope you're doing well.

Crumpet - I understand completely why you wouldn't want DH to be away overnight. We were lucky last year when we lost our baby. DH normally does a lot of interstate travel with overnight stays but for at least 6 months afterwards he didn't do one. I found it difficult to be by myself even while he was at work so for a couple of weeks he worked from home, or went in late and come home early. I hated having to leave the house and only did so when it was absolutely necessary - Dr, pysch or groceries. And then I avoided eye contact with everybody. I would have anxiety attacks if I went anywhere that reminded me of being pg or anywhere new where I would have to meet new people. I was such a different person from my normal self. My psych helped me overcome a lot of these feelings but it took about 5 months. So be gentle on yourself.

CharlieB - I had a GF who asked me to come and stay with her at her house at the beach which we have done previously. We are of the same age and get along so well and it was very kind of her to offer but part of the reason I couldn't go was because the last time we were there I was pg and I was trying hard to avoid being reminded of those happier times. I also couldn't bear to be away from my DH. He was my rock, my protector. We have since visited her a couple of times and I have gotten past the memory but it was hard the first time as she put us in the same room we had had before. Each day we get stronger and are better able to deal with these reminders.

Dory - Hi. Hope you are doing well and resting up. Remember your most important job!

to Samcougar, Blessedatlast and everyone else I have missed.
oxo

[Gigi1]

Hey Cheryl,
Good to hear from you. Sorry you had a neg this month. It sounds promising that you are considering all options though. It is hard to base these decisions on previous experience when each cycle is a fresh look/start. I hope that the coming months make things clearer for you and that whatever you do brings your dream to reality hun. Good luck and best wishes to get fit and ready too. I hope the best for you, i really do.
oxox
Beata,
The very best of wishes for you on Tuesday. How very exciting. You have come all this way. I hope you are as proud as we are! A subsequent pregnancy after loss would have to be finding a NEW normal for yourself, i guess. I admire you and look up to your strength. I hope that your beautiful cat is looking over you as your family grows. Good Luck sweet and enjoy the moment of true love. xoxoox Will be thinking of you!

Aries,
Good to hear from you hun and to know all is well in your world. Keep us in touch when you can. Love and wishes xoxo

Crumpet,
I think i mentioned a little while back that i tend to binge and feel my most down, the first day after my husbands weekend. I still find it hard sweety. We have a 24/7 relationship. We have often worked together and really enjoy living in each others pockets. We give each other the necessary space we need. So when he is away, i feel quite lost in deed. We haven't been away from each other much other than one night...that was hellish for me. We don't have an unhealthy need for each other...i just have such a closeness with him...no one else can fill that. I think it is very normal how you feel hun. I am glad it worked out. GO the Dildo Cam...not ever very nice...but hey one very good advantage, no full bladder necessary! I think that is worse.

Charlie B,
My cousin in Perth has been trying to get me to go over there...from brisbane, to stay with her for a bit. No way Hose! She thinks we are too dependant on each other and it would be good for us to spend some time away once and a while...um Bu55er off. She thinks it would be relaxing for me. I have no idea where people get off with this advice. Talk about unravel me! Another planet! I know your friend is not suggesting this...it is just my cousin beign pushy. Sometimes well meaning friends can throw you for six. Just be as honest as you can sweet and your friendship will survive it if it is strong enough. You do what you are comfortable with, stay close to your heart and listen to your needs hun. Stay strong and do whatever it is your heart tells you...no matter how crazy.

I am hoping i didn't get Crumpet and CharlieB mixed up at any point. You lovely ladies are really good at 'quoting'. I have no idea how to do it...it gets me confused. So apologies for any mix up on my part...i can be a bit slow. xoxoxo Hugs

AFM-
Hmmmm, a few things this week. I went for this appointment up the coast. Anyway some things have been confirmed. I have a few issues to contend with. I have two viruses in my system, some opportunistic bacteria and Lymes Disease seems to be present. To say i handled this well would be overkill. I have no idea where of how i got these things as I am bit of a health freak. I look after myself well although the last year has been up and down. It explains why I am so damn tired all the time and why i feel out of whack. Although at any point, these things and others that you can't really put a finger could all be caused by grief. I do feel 'not myself'. They all leave you with symptoms like chronic fatigue syndrome/glandular fever and pelvic inflam disorder etc etc. Fun...get yoursefl some, it is a blast.
Had another panick attack around my health stuff so I will get some more checked out and look at come counselling i think for the anxiety. Hmmm, i am so frustrated and upset over this. I have never 'had' to stop TTC for so long. I want to scream.
On the flip side, it gives me time to be well and a better chance of a safe pregnancy. I can get a bit fitter and feel good again.
Yesterday was DD's anniversary for her death. My mother rang all high pitched and chirpy. I could have hung up then and there. So I am hiding right now. My little cousin was down from Cairns and she came to visit today. It was lovely to see her and she just wanted to talk about DD which was perfect for me today. Selfishly, that is all i wanted. I am hiding and sewing and writing for the rest of the day. My SIL sent us flowers on Friday which was lovely of her.
I am tired and headachy so i am off for to meditate and rest. HOpe you are all well out there.
Love to you all

Dory,
Only a couple of days until you see your bubs, thinking of you. xx

[CharlieB]

Hi everyone

Hope your weekends have been enjoyable!

Hi Gigi - no mix ups as far as I can tell!! Your post made me laugh, I think crumpet is another level ahead of me, I have no idea how she does the multiple quoting in one post thingy, very impressive!!!
I'm so sorry about the health issues you are facing, but hopefully finding out about what's going on means you are one step closer to solving the problems and getting on with your TTC journey

Chez - sorry about evil AF showing up. I hope the next few cycles can bring some better news, be it IVF or natural.

beata - all the best for Tuesday, I will be kppeing you in my thoughts this week.

crumpet - how did the appointment go? ROFL at the "dildo camera"!

AFM - we went out to see some friends last night for the first time since we delivered. It felt so strange, everyone acted like nothing at all had happened, and didn't mention anything about it. I was acting like I was the same as before, but I feel like a TOTALLY different person, this HUGE thing has happened in my life that nobody will mention! I think having had a baby and meeting my beautiful little boy has changed me so much, and yet I can't express this to anyone. Does this make any sense?? Sorry I am rambling away to myself here!

Otherwise a quiet weekend, I have to start doing some proper shifts at work from tomorrow and pulling my weight a bit more, hope it goes ok.

Am anxiously awaiting my AF, have no idea when it will show up, could be weeks away I guess. But would love to TTC next cycle so bring on AF!

Take care ladies
xx

[crumpet]

crumpet - how did the appointment go? ROFL at the "dildo camera"!

AFM - we went out to see some friends last night for the first time since we delivered. It felt so strange, everyone acted like nothing at all had happened, and didn't mention anything about it. I was acting like I was the same as before, but I feel like a TOTALLY different person, this HUGE thing has happened in my life that nobody will mention! I think having had a baby and meeting my beautiful little boy has changed me so much, and yet I can't express this to anyone. Does this make any sense?? Sorry I am rambling away to myself here!

Otherwise a quiet weekend, I have to start doing some proper shifts at work from tomorrow and pulling my weight a bit more, hope it goes ok.

Am anxiously awaiting my AF, have no idea when it will show up, could be weeks away I guess. But would love to TTC next cycle so bring on AF!

Take care ladies
xx

my appt went well thanks hun....
everything looks normal, my cerivx is just a bit shorter than a normal persons which is no great suprise!!
ovaries were full of eggs so we are all systems go!!!
lol..yeah dildo cam!! i unfortunatly will have to have dildo cam every scan and every preg i have!! dam cervix!!!!

i know what u mean about being a different person..... for me its easier if ppl pretend nothing has happend, but i can understand if u did want to talk to them about it.
i think a ot of people dont know what to say or how to act after soemthing like this has happned. even now i wonder if i would know what to do to help out someone if they went through what we did...

ooh and to quote..... down the bottom right of posts there is a symbol with MQ in it, u just hit that for every post u want to quote!! easy as!!

[Manda_Henricks]

I tried to post a thread, but for some reason it didn't come through. I just wanted to know if anyone can answer my questions...

Hi, some of you may have read my story https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...-6-months.html
3 weeks later I was curious to see if I was ovulating because I had read that you can ovulate 2 weeks to 3 weeks after giving birth and that you are really fertile, ect after giving birth. The first test stick come up that I was not ovulating, but the next day both lines come up both being the same colour no line was darker or lighter than the other. They both were a faint pink colour. When I done my last ovulation test the C line was darker than the T and that month was the month I feel pregnant. So anway I took it that I was ovulating. My partner and I TTC from that day. I tested the next day and same thing. Third day come up with th T line dakrer than the C. I now feel really guilty because I feel asthough I have rushed into things to fast, and thought maybe if I got pregnant that fast it would take a bit of the pain away. If I fell pregnant this month could I potentially put this child at danger too? My partner is a lot older than me. He is 53 and we want to have a child so bad befoe it gets too late for him to experience being a father again. That is the main reason of TTC so fast. Do you think that the ovulation test could have been wrong for some reason seeing as the 2 lines were exact same colour, but very light?

[dory]

Beata - thinking of you for tomorrow and beyond.! OMG I am so excited...........

Will be back to write more later.

[dory]

Gigi1 - my heart is with you, particularly now. I was away over the weekend, but will light a candle for your DD tonight.

I hope you are managing ok, and good work for your cousin on being the right person at the right time. Thinking of you. Pity about the funky annoying lttle bacteria/virus. I thought Lymes disease could be caught from ticks. Any rolls in the hay latey? And yes only one more day. I have woken each morning for the past two mornings thinking - this is it! I have to get ready, only to realise today wasn't the day. I am a bit anxious too, but not too much. Worry won't help and what will be will be. Oh, I got to go to the beach. It was divine. It was too much for me to get down the beach to the water, so DH and I just sat and watched the rain squalls move across the bay and how the appearance of the water changed with the changing light. It was pretty rough but relatively calm considering. We even got rained on ourselves. It was awesome.

CharliB - it's so hard. I am sorry that you felt so apart from your friends. It will get easier in time, but for now, you will probably feel apart from family, friends, colleagues and the world at large. It's hard for your friends too, they don't know what to say or do and mostly they are so afraid of upsetting you. Little do they know, you're upset already and are actually pretty good at "this being upset caper". If they are close friends, and if you can, sweetie, talk to them about what you need and how you felt and feel. It will help them be better friends for you.

Crumpet - I know what you mean about being uncertain about how to help others, despite your own experiences. But in order to help others, you have to be strong and mostly healed yourself, don't try to take to much on if the opportunity presents itself. My counsellor says that people in grief are like sponges, they absorp sadness and grief around them. I realised I was doing that too

Chez - sorry about the BFN and that you are glum. Be strong my friend, you can do it.

Cmegelles - how are you going sweetie? First signs of spring around? The tulips flowering? That was one of the most exciting things when I was in the US. It really was a visual reminder of the change of season to come.

[Gigi1]

CharlieB,
I do feel like a totally different person and i think that is normal. I also think it is a good thing. My baby's legacy in a way. Not easy though when dealing with other people. I feel a bit outside their world often enough. It is almost like dealing with a second personality sometimes. I don't think i was ever happy with whether people asked or not. If they did, it was almost always done int he wrong way but i was happy to have her spoken about. If they didn't i was pi55ed that they didn't care enough. Something i learnt very early on was that very few people could get it right and when they did it was like a weight lifted and I could breath. HOpe AF turns up soon hun so you can get started.xx

Crumpet,
Sweet, i often think the same when i comes to other people going through this. I sometimes think i have all the answers and then other times i think i woud be completely useless as everyone's needs different. A million dollar question really. All any of us can do it be honest, loving and compassionate and hope we could be there for soemone else. xoxo

Be back soon

[Chez67]

Hi Beata

Just popped in quickly to wish you all of the luck in the world tomorrow. I will be thinking of you and your family.

oxo

[Gigi1]

Dory,
One more sleep! Will be thinking of you tomorrow hun.
Yeah i know...rolling around in the hay. When he told me that it is from a tick bite, i thought...You are a fruitcake. Yep whatever mate. Then i went home and did some research. I looked up what this bite area is supposed to look like and sure enough i had a ring bite area on the back of my head 3-4 mths ago. I was embarressed and thought it was a ringworm or fungal thing from my darling nephew who frequents daycare. I smothered it in tea tree and it went away only to return a bit bigger and spread out. So ti make total sense...have no idea though where i would have come into contact with a tick. Stupidly i took photos so that i could see it, being on the back of my head made that a challenge, but got rid of the pictures once i had seen it. Great one kiddo. So yep...that is that. He is a pretty clever and very thorough dude. I have three friends that have been to him and had fab results. So we shall see. But no wonder i have been feeling a little more than i can put down to greif. It was sending me back into depression type feelings when dispite our heartbreak and sadness i thought we were doing so well. I know i have handled a little too much stress lately but still there were just a few things i couldn't put my finger on.
Glad you got to the beach hun. How beautiful. I love watching the weather. I have sadi to dh, our dream home- i don't care if we can't see a huge view of anything else but i want a view of the weather. I love it and so does dh. I bet your bubbas were there with you watching the wild energy and rain. Nothing like getting caught up in the rain. It is even better when you are trying not to get wet ad then all of a sudden...you drop everything and embrace it. So much fun. xx Hm oxo

Beata!!!!!! Go get em baby! Bring us a beautiful baby home. Thinking of you hun and wishing you every calm thought. Good Luck!

[Miss.B]

Hello everyone,

Aww, Gigi, Dory, Cheryl, Crumpet, CharlieB & Aries, thanks so much ladies for your wonderful wishes and words I am so humbled that you are so excited for me. I hope & pray that in the near future I will be wishing you lots of luck with your bubbas!!!

I am going in at 6 am but the c/s isn't until 8.30. Will let you know how it all goes, but I won't be home until Sunday.

Dory GL for tomorrow hun, hope all goes well for you sweets.

Big hugs to all
B xxx

[dory]

Today, I am really walking on air. It was awesome. I didn't really relax until I saw the little chickens heart beat, but we got to that very quickly.

Here are the details - 159 bpm! 6.9cm long and the cervix is 38mm and a 1 in 3599 risk of downs. All in all, a very good result. Made the sleepless night last night worth it.

DH and I have been in our own little world of bliss today, real bliss. It's not been a feeling we have both felt so strongly for such a long time. if we could bottle this moment and just pour some out when we needed it, we would.

We now have a big decision to make - to stitch or not, when its not clearly medically indicated. I am trying to get an appointment with my counselor to see if I have missed anything in my thought processes about the "stitch".

Gigi - I love the rain too. Never used, but now, I just get wet and love it, even in my work gear. Wow, can't believe you actually had a tick "bite". I know the delays to TCC are frustrating, but it is so good that you have some answers and are in a position to heal and put yourself in the best health for TCC.

Oh oh, Beata would have had her bubs by now.... so excited I am hoping around from one foot to the other.

[CharlieB]

Today, I am really walking on air. It was awesome. I didn't really relax until I saw the little chickens heart beat, but we got to that very quickly.

Here are the details - 159 bpm! 6.9cm long and the cervix is 38mm and a 1 in 3599 risk of downs. All in all, a very good result. Made the sleepless night last night worth it.

DH and I have been in our own little world of bliss today, real bliss. It's not been a feeling we have both felt so strongly for such a long time. if we could bottle this moment and just pour some out when we needed it, we would.

We now have a big decision to make - to stitch or not, when its not clearly medically indicated. I am trying to get an appointment with my counselor to see if I have missed anything in my thought processes about the "stitch".

Gigi - I love the rain too. Never used, but now, I just get wet and love it, even in my work gear. Wow, can't believe you actually had a tick "bite". I know the delays to TCC are frustrating, but it is so good that you have some answers and are in a position to heal and put yourself in the best health for TCC.

Oh oh, Beata would have had her bubs by now.... so excited I am hoping around from one foot to the other.

YAY!! That is wonderful news Dory, I am really happy for you and your DH!


I hope the good news of this week continues on!!

[cmeglles]

Can I just say that you ladies make my day? You really do. I have been in a bit of a funk since yesterday about not being pregnant, and then I read these posts and it made it all go away. And can I just say calling the vaginal ultrasound a dildo cam is one of the funniest things I have heard. I LOVE IT. My internet friends (what I call you guys to DH) rock!

Beata- you are probably at the hospital right now-hooray. I am really hoping all things are going super smooth. SO EXCITED for you!

Dory- What wonderful news! What type of counselor are you going to for talking about stitching? I am absolutely THRILLED fro you that you saw a heartbeat and everything looks wonderful. Just so happy. How is it taking time off from work? enjoying it? need a reading list? No tulips yet, although I did hear on the radio that some lambs are being born. It is unusually warm here right now. Usually winter lasts for another month at least, so I am happy that things are warming up and am actively looking for new flowers and signs of Spring.

Gigi1- Lyme disease! How terrible! That definitely explains your symptoms though. I hope that a good dose of antibiotics gives you back your energy. Are they putting you on an IV? It will make TTC much more fun anyways! I am getting my PhD in microbiology so anytime you want to bounce infections and treatments etc off of my brain please feel free. I am happy to share, or not share. Or set your mind at ease--at least with what I know so far. I am trying so hard to be stress free and not have anxiety to avoid infections- but it is so hard. We have been through so much, how do you just turn it off?It totally sucks that you have had to take such a long break. Keep us updated with how you are doing. I am really hoping that you feel better FAST! Sounds like you have a great doctor.

Chez- Sorry about AF arriving. BOOOO. We need some good news in here. Good to hear that DH is behind you all the way this year. It really helps with 100% support I think. IVF sounds more and more promising with this new doctor. I would say go ahead and book the trip, I have never been to the beach in winter, but after booking our vacation I am really grateful to have something longish shortish term to look forward to. Plus some sunshine and warmth--I am so ready! The winters are very long here and everything right now is ugly (and will be for another month or so) It has helped me a lot with relaxing for TTC. (well so far anyways).

Crumpet- Good to see you have some answers and a baseline for your cervix. Now to hopefully move onto bigger and better things like getting you pregnant. My fingers are crossed that this is super short for you.

CharlieB- I still (I am 5 months out of losing our son at 16 weeks) feel weird around people. I don't like it when people pretend or act like nothing has changed, because I have. SO I have totally been there. I deal with it, and I have no clue if this is healthy, by talking about it if the subject comes up and it is relevant to the conversation. For example, someone was asking me why I am interested in specializing in obstetrics and gynecology for medicine and I said all of the standard things and I said I lost a baby in the second trimester, my care was excellent but me and my family have never been so vulnerable and I want to be able to help women like me. Or I went to a women's empowerment retreat for future physician leaders and they asked about a life changing event and I told them. But it is really really hard. Nobody talks about these things, and that makes it even lonelier for me. I don't know if that helps.

Aries- nice to see you lurking. I am glad you are still around. Hope things are going well with you.

For me on CD10. Things are busy at work. I got some confirmation that I will graduate (with the first of my 2 degrees) in a year or so and am really happy. I am so ready to return to medical school. Got into a funk because I found out a co-worker's wife is 15 weeks pregnant and they were doing the ultrasound today---brought back lots of memories of my last ultrasounds.Funny how some things don't bother me and I am excited about and other things (that are basically the same)hurt. I simply do not 'get' my feelings. Anyhow you all made my day. THANK YOU