I had a lightbulb moment, as Oprah would put it....after trying to do the pantley technique thing in BJ's cot...it suddenly clicked as to why you do it in a chair then put him into bed when he's not quite asleep....DUH SHELLEY!
We don't want him associating his dummy with sleep anymore, so why give it to him in is cot....god I'm soooo dumb sometimes!
So from now on, our bed routine has been modified to include cuddles (with dummy) in the chair til he's dopey, take the dummy out as per pantley technique, another minute or two of snuggles, then nice quiet settled boy gets put into bed...I did it tonight, and after 25 minutes (yeah yeah big woop!) not a peep!
We shall see....besides, its a bucket load more comfy from 2-30 til 5-30 in the rocking chair than kneeling on the floor beside the cot!!!
I'll pop back later for personals (least I'll try!)
I mentioned in the other one that we have abandoned the dummy removal, the patting him to settle him without it was ridiculous, 1 hour patting = 10minute sleep?! I DONT THINK SO!
Since reverting back to the dummy we have had much better sleeps than we were getting without it, a much happier boy and a much more active boy.
We are happy with that!
We are slowly phasing in the move from wrapping to sleeping bag...at this stage most of the time is he wrapped, and in a grobag (to help him get used to the grobag), and slowly (maybe one sleep a day) I'll phase out wrapping, so his morning sleep today he has one arm out....he's asleep, so thats a bonus!
BW - love the new ticker pic! Good luck with the wrapping/grobag transition. I'm not brave enough to try that yet!
For those of you with grizzly babies at the moment - I have a sneaking suspicion that DS is going through a bit of a wonder week. He's been 'off' all week and is now doing new things - like moving around in his cot. Seriously, we used to put him down and he would stay there. Now he rolls over, turns around, gets feet/arms caught in the bars - whatever! I went in there at 3am and he was on his tummy playing! He's also not doing the day nap thing very well at the moment - only has brief naps most of the time.
I start back at work tomorrow - full time. And poor DH has gotten a coldy/coughy thing that's making him feel like crap. I did all the night wakings last night (we normally share them) so he could get a good sleep to aid in his recovery and so now I'm feeling buggered today! Ah well, will be heading to bed early tonight anyway!
I had a cleaning frenzy this week too - sorted out the piles of stuff that needed going through and changed the sheets on both our bed & the cot.
Can't think of anything else to say, so to everyone...
BW the sleep associations thing is a right pain in the butt crack. I hear ya. We have been working on them ourselves, NCSS style. But a big hole appeared in our plan when he started teething. And he is teething horribly. I've had him on panadol for two nights and once during the day today, it's that bad. I mean, I hate medicating, so it's testament to how he's dealing with it. I just wish the teeth would show already. Such a shame as we were doing so well with the sleeping. Had him down to three night wakes! Last night he was up for two hours in the middle of the night, twice. So, this is fun.
Anyway, going to spend some time with DH before I hit the sack early as I don't think much sleep will be had tonight...
Howdy Girls,
Sorry not going to do personals as such, havent really read all the replies since my last post, sorry.
I got a new car on friday, and im so happy, its so sexy, my old car was getting old and was starting to degrade a bit (LOL) so i was definately in need of a new car, esp with having a bubba and all..So i got one..and my gosh is it sexy LOL.
Ive been great, i seem to be losing weight...had to have my engagement ring resized the other week, and also ive noticed my jeans are a big baggy around the bum and waist...which is scary coz i was a size 11, so i must be a size 10 or even 9 now :| Im glad summer is approaching, skirts and singlets all the way, YAY!!! Although i must admit, sitting on the massage chair at the chiro's the other day was a bit of a horror, my tummy was literally wobbling LOL...jelly belly from im guessing the extra skin from PG...it was kinda funny though the way it was wobbling hehe...think i might attempt to tone it up a bit though..
Well i think im going to go..im trying to get my hands on the book "The wonder weeks" but it seems everywhere i go its going to be a 14 day wait, which sucks coz "I WANT IT NOW!"
bw glad things are going well since you stopped operation dummy removal! i'm all for taking the path of least resistance where babies are concerned.
fire that sounds terrible. are you sure it's teething? hope you're all doing better today.
meg what sort of car did you get?
nettie hope the transition back to work is a smooth and painless one. what sort of work do you do? you've probably told us this already, but who's looking after liam while you work?
shoegal well done on your weight loss. i've lost a bit since i cut out dairy, but would love to lose more.
beatrix your pics are gorgeous. what a bunch of cute little girls you have!
weird thing happened the other night. dd only woke up ONCE! she slept 8 hours, then 4 hours. the next night she did a 5-hour stretch. naps have improved a bit too. but just to make sure i wasn't getting too excited, she reverted to her old habit of waking 2-hourly last night. oh well, there's always tonight... here's hoping! still, i haven't forgotten that ds slept through the night for a week at 3 months of age, then spent the next two years waking every 2 hours on the dot. so i'm trying not to be too hopeful.
MGM - today wasn't too bad... missed my little man though! I'm a Team Leader in an office and my DH is the full-time stay-at-home-Dad for Liam. He's sick with a cough/body aches thing at the moment so it wasn't much fun for him today - but luckily Liam was well behaved!
Loved getting the big grins when I got home though
Nettie- thats great about work!!! and hope DH is getting better
well im in the process if removing mj from the dummy... she only uses it everynow and then so im hoping i can kick it b4 she turns out like Annika who wont give it up.. am going to work on herafter mj... but need to remove any dummy temptation from mj 1st annika will steal hers
hey meg i see you've changed your user name! car sounds great - camrys are good, reliable cars.
nettie glad all went OK. it's great that your DH can take care of liam. hope he gets better soon.
beatrix good luck with dummy removal! it must be really annoying when they won't give them up. maybe annika will follow mj's example once you have some success!
yesterday was awful - dd woke at 6.20 and only slept half an hour between then and 6.30pm. she resisted all attempts to get her to nap (besides the one half hour) but wasn't actually as grizzly as i thought she'd be, given her lack of sleep.
Oh NO about the infection, BW. I fear an ear infection. DS is pulling at his actually but I think it is teeth related as it is intermittent. I may get it checked in case.
Sleep has gotten better and better here. The key is no sleep associations other than the ones I wanna live with. So I got him blanky bear, a little blanket with one of those teddies in the middle. He sucks on that and bites it and stuff like his sister did on hers, and it is easy for him to hold on to or to find in the bed, unlike a dummy. I wore it for a day under my clothes to imbue it with my smell, and he took to it quite well.
I am slowly phasing out the before-sleep/nap feed, as he always falls to sleep or gets really sleepy during that feed and this caused the feed-to-sleep association we had. Which meant he kept waking wanting THAT done again to get back to sleep. So I brought that feed to a half hour before the nap, so there is no before-nap feed now. We still have the before bedtime feed but I'm tweaking that so that it is feed THEN story, to keep him awake-ish. He's too damned tired to make it most of the time though.
We do a little nap ritual of new nappy, grobag and story (usually too tired for story, so we look at the cover then put it down :lol, hey, it keeps the ritual!) all done in the room, fan on and then rock in the chair until settled. Then I say "bed now, Ci, naptime. Have a good nap, bubby." and kiss him and stroke his back, maybe pat him and rock the cot if he is moving around trying to get comfy and that's IT!! And he does 1.5 hours to 2 hours twice a day. He has been putting himself to sleep for days now, and therefore putting himself back to sleep when he wakes during sleep cycles. Even though he is teething HORRIBLY, poor sod, he is sleeping better than ever. Two nights ago, he did this:
6.15pm asleep
9.30 wake, settled himself
1am feed
5am feed
Check out the 7 hours between feeds!
He only did that once though, but we are getting there. No more all night feeds anyway.
We still have the long, luxurious half hour/hour long early morning feed. I couldn't rip him off of that. I enjoy it anyway as it is so quiet and comforting for him and bonding.
Thought I'd post a nice post since it has been a tough slog for us and I haven't been a happy camper.
I read regularly though.
Good to know about moo goo, SG. I'll have to get some for general purposes.
Hey All,
OMG i wanna be pregnant again!! I was reading the very first Belly Buddies thread (Belly Buddies - Due 16th-30th April 2008) and it was so strange...but now i have this desire to go through it all again... Fire Im glad things have gotten better and easier for you!!
Isabell hasnt had any sickness or infections or anything, im lucky i guess. Im prepared though
She also had a bit of CC, but we have gotten rid of most of it, still a tiny bit to get rid of. She looks a bit like a balding man LOL coz with the cradle cap came the hair too...so she has heaps of hair on the back of her head but the odd strand on the top of her head.
General update: We're all doing better. DH is mostly over his 'flu and Liam's got a cough and has had a few days where he's been a bit warm, but nothing major. I've gotten through my first week of work unscathed and I even managed to sleep through the night last night! DH fed Liam at 11pm and he didn't wake up until about 6.45 am. By then I was hanging out a load of nappies!
We're starting to get into a routine in the mornings too. I shower at night so all I have to do to get ready for work is have some breakfast, pack a lunchbox & my water, brush my teeth & get dressed. Usually I let DH sleep in until 8 am and hand Liam over then. That gives me time to do those things (sometimes I've already packed my lunchbox & had breakfast by that time) and get to work by 8.30 am. Glad I'm not a hair & make-up person!! We've also started a routine for leaving - when either DH or I leave the house to go somewhere (like work), we do a special wave (fingers to palm, then open again) and blow kisses saying 'bye-bye'. Hopefully this will get him prepared for our absence.
Liam's been having rice cereal in his formula all week now. The packet says to add 4 tablespoons to 120 - 160 mls of fluid (formula/water/ebm) but it was too thick to put through the bottle (which is how we wanted to start him because of the cleft palate) so we're only putting 1 tablespoon in a 150ml bottle of formula - up to 4 times a day. However, we've discovered that he's not eating as much now (one day he only had 4 bottles all day and didn't finish any of those!) but he's sleeping better at night. Over the weekend I intend to make the rice cereal up properly and feed it to him on a spoon to see how he goes.
I'm about to put some new pics in the gallery so feel free to have a squiz... some are awful cute!
BP - are we still allowed to call you Meg? You're scaring me about the CC because Liam's been scratching at some of his (I can only tell because there's flakes in his hair!) so I'm not sure what to do if it's bothering him. I don't want to do anything that will affect his hair and it's hard to just rub stuff into it because you can't even see his scalp, his hair's that thick!
Ness - good luck with the dummy removal! You've got double trouble there!
Janine - I'm so pleased for you! Sounds like you've turned the corner I hope you're getting more sleep now and are feeling more human!
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And poor DH has gotten a coldy/coughy thing that's making him feel like crap. I did all the night wakings last night (we normally share them) so he could get a good sleep to aid in his recovery and so now I'm feeling buggered today! Ah well, will be heading to bed early tonight anyway!
to everyone...
i wanna be pregnant again!! I was reading the very first Belly Buddies thread (Belly Buddies - Due 16th-30th April 2008) and it was so strange...but now i have this desire to go through it all again...
I hope you're getting more sleep now and are feeling more human!
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