Babies born December 2007 #18

[morgan78]

Lori - just in case you werent aware, strawberries aren't advised until at least 12 months as they have a higher chance of allergy reaction.

[Liz]

Hey girls.

Not much here. Tallon now has a cough and a drippy nose. Kayla got a temp yesterday, but nothing else has eventuated.. no more temp or anything. *shrug*. She's booked in for needles tomorrow, can't decide whether to still do it. She seems fine.

Sleep - not fantastic. But at least just having a quick feed and back to sleep. We haven't had bouts of crying for a while through the night.

We had the 6-8 mth check today. Everything is fine. The nurse asked if she can recognise objects yet? huh?? Bit young isn't it? She reckons if I name an object she should recognise it. *shrug*. She didn't seem concerned when I said I don't think she does. She knows her name and stuff, but if I say book, I don't think she really knows it. I've been doing a few signs with her already, like eat & ball. Perhaps I'm not giving my baby enough credit hehe.

Take care everyone. I should vacuum. So paranoid about this mouse LOL. Haven't seen it since my big clean out. Maybe I scared it off. But I'm determined not to leave anything around except for the food in our trap.

[aussienic]

Hope that pesky mouse is gone..

I didn't think they recognised objects at this age yet either.. I know they should knopw thier name ect but not objects.. Maybe she meant cup food ect!!

Olivia had 2 by 2 hour sleeps today.. she is very happy now.. I am ready to throw Jacob in thr wheelie bin though .. So sick of being screamed at by a almost 3 yr old GRR.. ?how do we force a sleep on him....

well might cook an early dinner.. Jacob is now falling asleep on the couch **sigh** so eary dinner then they can have toast and a milo before bed..

[Jus]

well hey, I don't think Ella even knows her name yet, altho she responds if we call her (usually) but I assumed she just heard our voices.
knowing objects? doubt it, altho she knows what to do with a cup/rusk etc.
Maybe I haven't been looking for the right things yet, or underestimate her too!

well, you clean beans have gotten me hooked on flylady. really a topic for another thread, but going the whole 5 minute idea.

Having a lovely time still with Ella sleeping like a trooper (during the day anyhow). Dunno how long it will last so will enjoy it while it does.

Off to cook yummy nigella lawson pork chops & gnocchi in apple cider sauce. mmmmm.

happy evening everyone. hope the little darlings behave...

[Lolli]

Hi all,
Hmmm, recognising objects? I'm pretty sure Ty doesn't do that yet. He does respond to his name, but I think that's just the tone of our voices- he responds to about a hundred different nicknames as well.

Jus- Pork chops in apple cider sauce sounds really yummy...

Liz- Hope Kayla's needles go ok (if you get them). Ty has a shocking cough and a very blocked nose.

Morgan- No, I wasn't aware of that. Strawberries aren't listed as a food to be avoided in any of the literature I've got.

Hope the sleep fairy visits you all tonight

[morgan78]

Lori this is from the Qld Government Child Health Info book - dont know if you would have received something similar in NSW

Sensible precautions
It is best to avoid very high allergen foods until after 12 months. These foods include peanut & other nuts and seeds, cows milk, soy milk, egg, shellfish, chocolate, honey, tomato, berries, citrus fruit, kiwi fruit & mango

But if he's fine with them then its obviously no worries.
Hi Nic - Can we put Jacob & Alex together in that bin just love that screaming

[aussienic]

FINALLY! Olivia was not a good girl tonight.. she was awake from 3pm till 8:45.. yeh not to bad you say but she screamed and whined from about 5 onwards.. I ended up standing and rocking and bouncing her sleep... She was so exhausted poor thing.. and she bi me so hard I yelled a very norty word and then burst out laughing and so did she

Good Luck with the needles Liz..

Lori: I know strawberries are on the list but if he hasn't had a reactin by now I think he should be fine.. Not really sure though.. I am so iffy about eggs strawberries and fish..

Morgan: I swear i almost ran away between Olivia and Jacob I had had enough!! I just wis I could force him to sleep.. I just don't know how to make him. A movie or a kids show won't make him sit anymore. he won't lay on a bed at all.. and even going for a drive at possible sleep time doesn't work anymore...

[Lolli]

Morning ladies,
Just double checked my books (the 600 different ones from the CHN about starting solids) and it doesn't have strawberries anywhere, but it doesn't mention citrus fruits, mangoes or kiwis either. Maybe they have different recomendations in different states? I know the NZ books say you can start smooth peanut butter at 9 months, so maybe everywhere's different. Oh well, no harm, no foul, as they say. I'm not hugely worried about about allergies as he's fully breastfed and we have no family history of any sort of allergies or exzma (sp?). Also, CHN reckons if you are having bubs immunised you should try eggs at least once, the white and yolk seperately, before they get their MMR cause that needle has an egg base (I can't remember if it's whites or yolks but). There's also some research (i'll have a look and see if I can find it to post it) that reckons that delaying the introduction of certain foods can actually increase the risk of allergies, not decrease them. But Nic, I'm with you- peanuts and fish are a bit iffy for my liking- and I'm scared of fishy smelling poos

Hope you all had a good night and hope your older ones didn't play up too much Morgan and Nic. Ty has a new game- rolling over in his cot till he hits the side with his head then giggling hysterically. I wince every time he does it- it makes such a bang- but he thinks it's hilarious. I don't think we're far from crawling- he was caterpillar shuffling himself backwards across the floor last night and managed to go from one side of the room to the other
Well Ty's cough is still really bad so I'm going to take him to the GP today- no appointment so we might be in for quite a wait. Wish me luck...

ETA- Does anyone know the rules with essential oils and bfing? Are you supposed to avoid lavender and ecualyptus?

[Liz]

Re allergen foods - I tend to wait until after 12 months, but only coz there's plenty of other stuff to give them until then hehe. It's only 6 mths or less to wait. But I agree there's different ideas everywhere, and they never had these rules years ago, and less allergies years ago! We don't have any history of allergies or anything either and DS has been fine with everything. Hope Kayla's the same!

Re essential oils - I think it depends on how you're using them. I would think lavender & eucalyptus would be ok. I think you can pretty much use most of the usual oils in a burner, but I'm not sure about applying it to the skin. You'd want it very very diluted if your applying it to the skin. I'd keep it under 1% EO which is what it needs to be to put on bub, so I'd do the same for myself.

I cancelled the needles for today. Kayla has had a couple of temps. Dunno if hers will develop into much being breastfed & all I'm sick now tho.. stuffed up nose.. argh. We don't usually get hit hard with these things, so hopefully it'll just stay an annoying blocked nose for a few days.

[morgan78]

Lori - we have no history and Alex reacted to egg whites but once he hit the 18 month mark he was fine with them and he does get little outbreaks of Eczema again no family history anyway just wanted to pass info on. Hope you dont have to wait too long at the Drs and that Ty's cough isn't too bad

Well major crap night Alex started crying around 9ish, resettled then just as i was going to bed at 10 he started crying again, his tummy was bugging him again *sigh*. Then he puked in the bucket - i hate puke. He just couldn't settle back so i set up donnas & pillows in the lounge and finally around 1 he went to sleep to then wake every half hour asking for the bucket then 30 secs later lying back down and going to sleep. Vicky woke at 2am so i got DP to feed and settle her and the doofus forgot to change her nappy and wondered why she was unsettled for the rest of the wee hours (sorry no pun intended). So im hanging out now for her to have her next feed so i can then make a pot of real coffee.
Nic - i put dvd's on for alex during the day and he lies there with his pillow and doona and normally will have a hour or more nap.

[Lolli]

Hi all,
Wow that was amazing- we only waited 30 seconds to see the doctor. Apparently Ty is just continuing with the measles symptons. Doc said to take him back if it's not better in a few days. Double checked the strawberry issue with my GP- he said if there is no family history and bubs is bf,it shouldn't be an issue. The only food he recomends waiting on is peanuts.

Liz- Thanks for the oil info. I have to but a new oil burner but didn't want to bother if I couldn't use it. I've found burning a bit of eucalypt (sp?) is great for head colds.

Morgan- Just for curiousity, did Alex have a reaction to the MMR (if you immunised him)? What allergy symptons did he have?

This isn't the article I was looking for about allergies but it says the same kinda thing Log In Problems

ETA- Bugger, that link isn't working! This is a better one Effects of Early Nutritional Interventions on the Development of Atopic Disease in Infants and Children: The Role of Maternal Dietary Restriction, Breastfeeding, Timing of Introduction of Complementary Foods, and Hydrolyzed Formulas -- Greer et al. 1

[Buzzie]

hi everyone,
Ash had his needles today, he was very good, so was mummy hehe
We had mothers group yesterday and one of the girls found out 2 weeks ago she was 20 weeks pregnant and never knew! so her daughter would of been 2 months old when she concieved! OMg! Made me so maternal it wasnt funny! now i get to watch her belly grow and i miss mine LOL aaaaahhh im crazy.

Things have got so crazy between me and my ex, i am still so angry over the last fight we had i was seconds away from telling his parents just to p!ss him off, but then a friend who works in family law said he grandparents have legal rights to see him and if rob (ex) didnt want ash in Qld he could take me to court to bring him back. i think someone here said that happened to there friend. Well its freaked me out and i dunno what to do now. im sick of him getting away with everything! its bad enough he only pays $28 a month in child support cos he wont do his taxes ggggrrrrhhhh!

Oh and i caught up with Trish on monday - omg Abbey is such a sweetie! But her computer has carked it so she wont be online till its fixed....

Hope everyones having a good day


Also - Jas i need your contact details for the birthday pressie thing, i cant PM you. Im just waiting for Haroula to get back from greece and then ill have everyones details. im still gonna wait till the 1st of August, so if i dont get anymore emails till then., ill asume thats all the ppl who want to be in it. thankys guys.

[morgan78]

Lori - no he didnt react to MMr but we did leave it until he was closer to 2 and he was only sensitive to egg whites for a short while which was him coming up in a rash around his mouth if he had anything with a large egg content, this might have also been due to him being a prem *shrug*. It doesn't bother him anymore though which is the good thing.
Lauren - What a little champ. I hope things improve for you with your ex, not pleasant for you and i hope he sorts his finances and does the right thing by you & Ash.

[Nikki87]

Hi everyone!!

I really need to get my act together and get on here more often!! Very excited because DH, Summer and I are all going to Bali in less than 2 weeks now!! Woo hoo! Fingers crossed she goes alright on the plane!

Little update on Summer ... 2 teeth now!! Has had an ear infection too ... argh. Wasnt very nice. Lots of pulling on the ears and high temp so i took her to the emerg. but they couldnt find anything wrong. I wasnt satsified so took her to a GP the next day and he said both her ears were inflammed and irritated. Just shows, MOTHERS DO KNOW BEST HA. Lol!

No crawling yet ... She absolutley HATES tummy time. Will whinge until she rolls over.

Anyone elses bub obsessed with mirrors?? Summer will kiss herself in the mirror. Its so funny to watch. I will leave her on the floor in my room infront of the floor length mirror and i spy on her haha very funny to see what she gets up to by herself!!

Good to see everyone is doing well!! I cant wait till Summer hits the 8kg, then i can turn her carseat around!! Only 200g to go!!

[Jus]

Hi everyone,
can't remember all the things I wanted to say to everyone, but just wanted to add that dh heard some stuff about the allergy debate on ABC issues recently - can't remember the exact program name, but there's a part of their site that looks at all recent scientific stuff (yes dh is a nerd, but a lovely nerd) & you should be able to find it if you serach the abc site. will ask dh for the link later.

anyhow, they found that after years of advising no nuts for pg/bf women in uk (based on no research whatsoever) they now think that's actually contributing to the increase in allergies. so now, advising to eat them. Australia never really had a standard 'national' restriction iykwim. obviously if you have a family history, you might do differently. will try to find info & post later.

ps, nikki, ella hated tummy time too, until she realised rolling onto her front gets her into more fun! summer'll do it when she wants to. have fun in bali. kissing mirror is cute. ella kisses me, & also i've started getting her & i to kiss the bear in the car (i've got a bear mirror so I can see her in the car) - she thinks it's funny & it's helping avoid the car-seat tanties & hopefully keep her liking rearfacing. She's not yet 6.5 kg so won't be turning for ages. Don't want to til she's 1 anyway...

cheers

[Lolli]

Hi again,
This is the third time I've posted today I am staring to feel the cabin fever.. Ty's been sick for almost a fortnight and we've hardly left the house!!

Morgan- Thanks for that I'm a bit scared about the MMR. i can't remember if it's whites or yolks that is used in it, I was just curious to see if he got a reaction to it. It's good that he's grown out of it.

Lauren- Your ex sounds like such a tosser!!

Nikki- omg Bali! You lucky thing. Enjoy the warmth over there, hope Summer is ok on the plane. Ty is a bit obsessed with mirrors too, he laughs at himself and does this huge smile when he spots himself in one

ETA- Jus, I was looking for that article on the abc site before and couldn't find it... Ella kisses you? That's so cute, I wish Ty would do that. He pulls his face away of dh tries to kiss him- I think it's the stubble.

[aussienic]

Lori: ouch on the cot banging.. Olivia doesn't do that yet thankfully but she gets sideways in the cot and kicks her music thing lol.. As for essentials oils I thought it was just in pregnancy you had to be careful? unless you were using them on bubs??

Liz: Hope you and Kayla feel better soon.

Morgan: sorry to hear you had a bad night.. Hope the pukeys stop soon.. I hate vomit.. Is alex still throwing up from that tummy bug ages ago or this is a new one?
Oh and jacob simply won't lay still long enough to fall asleep or even rest during the day.. I put a movie on for him now and he is bugging Olivia and won't even sit down...

Lauren: about your Ex.. I hope things work out there.. My SIL had troubles when she split from her husband and they were living in Tassie at the time.. He wasn't signing the papers to say she could leave with the kids. They got back together and moved back to QLd and she finally left him for good,.. anyways..

Nikki: I hope you have an excellent holiday.. That would be so much fun

Well the miss is lay across my lap at the moment screaming *sigh* she is tired and has a tummy ache . She hasnt done a decent poop for a few days but why she is having trouble I don't know!

We offered sme apple custard tday and ou would think she was starving lol.. she ate about a tablespoon and then had some water... We decided to start offering solids again to see how she would go and she was so excited when she saw her bowl and spoon..

Well Missy has stopped crying.. if JAcob would just sit down or go and play in his bloomin bedroom she would prob drop off to sleep...

[morgan78]

Nic - i think this is a new bug, goodness knows where from though as we've been home for the last 3 days but he now got a temp too, 38.2, so back to the Drs this arvo. What a bummer Jacob wont have a quiet spell. Im sure Olivia is saving everything up and once shes up & about hes in BIG trouble
Nikki - have a great holiday very very jealous. Summer looks gorgeous.