Sorry, Kel, can't help, DS likes cheesy puffs! I am trying DS in creche this morning, but he doesn't like it. At least I'm easy to find during the week when he kicks off! He loves singing too, but during the hymns (and he loves dancing to them too) and he does join in a little with prayers, but not much as I shush him or ricecake him. I'm just so upset I'm thinking about leaving the Church. I don't feel welcome anywhere my family isn't welcome.