Sue - just read your post in the sleeping thread - OMG I am so jealous. Your Sophie sure is a sleepy head. Does she sleep just as much when you are out and about or just at home. So sorry to hear about Nicholas, hope his temp comes down soon the poor little mite.

Thanks all for your replies on how your settle your bubs to sleep. With Luke I don't put him in his cot asleep just sleepy. Generally try to catch his tired signs, pick him up have a cuddle for while, pat his bum etc and when his eyes are all heavy I wrap him and put him to bed. Once there I if he doesn't drift straight off, or wakes after a couple of minutes and grizzles etc I try to pat his bum etc in his cot and not get him out.

I'd like to be able to put him in his cot a lot earlier though. I'm not big on the whole self settling / control crying approach but I just seem to spend way too much time settling him to sleep during the day and then only get a 45 minute sleep. Aaaaaaarrrrrrgggghhhhh !!!

Jen - hope you get the mother's group sorted out soon. I really love mine. We meet once each week and have been doing so for the last 2 months. Usually just rotate whose house we go to and eat cake and chat for a couple of hours. Its great to get out of the house and chat to 'adults' - even if the conversation is mostly about babies.