Hiya Mel that's right... I forgot you had a similar relationship to your brothers as Verity has with hers... (she is keen to learn basic cooking techniques too... learned how to make eggs - both fried and boiled - last week). Maybe she'll turn out as good as you afterall! She is showing signs of being just as much a perfectionist as I am... she doesn't mind doing "interesting" housework... just arcs up a bit when i ask her to keep her own room tidy. Oh and DH was married for 6 years to a woman who was a staunch feminist and taught him everything he knows... he knew nothing before living with her. Why do women do that to their sons? Will I be just as bad? Oh lord I hope not! But who knows? I've become so many things that I swore I never would... LOL