Babies Born May 16th-31st 2008 #5

[Je$$_84]

Girl- Not sure why they have to phone you about the 3 poops... ??? thats a weird one. Also not sure what i would do about the bottle... also hugs about having to deal with an ex wife.... ouch... must be tough... DP and his ex had issues for a long time were living together but waiting for lease to end. so basically moved out and we got together.

Abb-/everyone... do you give the water cold??? i heated up the water the other day and she did drink some.... so might have to try that.

LMK- I know.... i feel bad that i havent been having time for personals.... DD is getting in to everything... I;m not baby proofing as such just teaching her NO... But its hard work... hehe....

Slso on the egg... have given her egg custart (in a jar) and also she eats alot of what we do so i guess she has had egg in something.

There would have never been an issue with the ex..... i dont have any issues with her.... she didnt even know me and she sicked all her friends on to me when i 1st started seeing DP. She made life hard for us for ages... She even followed us round and stalked us. posted my pics and hers on "hot or not" and put the results on DP's car windscreen one day. but i try to put all that in the past... its not often our paths cross.... DP still talks to her on FB... she is married now and has 2 step kids.

Bec- Were being woken up at 6.30-8 at the absolute latest. which is great. were getting all night sleeps aswell...Latley i cant complain about DD's sleeping patterns at all. Any finger foods work here too... I have a little miss independant.... She has to do things on her own... ( i can see that being a nitemare when she's a teenager)

I put DD on her lion walker/bike thingy yesterday and she was standing for ages. I walked round the house cleaned up, even managed to go to the loo and she was still standing up.... she fell down after 15 mins only cos she lost a bit of balance. she didnt cry just tried to get back up. she did but i helped her climb back on the seat. I think its more the "wow" i can do something else. DD just likes new things... hehe... Its the stage of bumps and bruises.... Cant be helped. They need to learn.... Just have to make sure they dont hurt too much....

Girl- good luck with assignments.

deancey- hope things are well with you also... hows the studying going???

Mecil- how are things with you???

[sassy123]

bec: i knwo wat u mean abotu tryint o sleep when they do. everytime i try i feel so much worse cause she wakes up just as i get to sleep. i wish i coudl be like Dh and fall asleep as soon as my head hits the pillow.

jess: sounds liek u handled the ex well. its funny how people have nothign else better to do.

girl: the whole poo thing is a load of crap hahahahahaha sorry didnt know how else to put it. if they were sloppy dioreah (sp? sorry) then yes they have to call but if it is just a normal poo then no they dont have to call and u def dont have to pick up. also with bottles legally ur not aloud to do that. everyones bottles have to have their names on it and the parent has to make it b4 they come. all the carer is aloud to do is to heat and feed.

well everytime i think jayda is getting teeth they dont show. yesterday they she was slobbering liek crazy and she was sooky this morning but i guess we will see wat happens.

she is so fast gettin around now. she wore me out yesterday. she is so funny when she is standing she forgets that she has to hang on and falls over. she also hates the pram and is starting to hate the car seat now too she just wants to be out and gettin around herself. she loves being in the trolly but it is hard if she is about to fall alseep.

oh the best thign now she holds her own bottle. so it is so good when we r shopping cause i can heat it and give it to her in the pram while walkign and not have to sit in the smelly parent room for 30min while she mucks around.

[Je$$_84]

I posted and then saw that Girl was the last to post and thought OMG my post didnt work... LOl. But it just the summary... LOL...

Well its a bitter sweet day... AF showed up today.... Not sure how i'm feeling... I just passed out, feeling woozy and Blerk.... I have BAD Period pain and very heavy flow.... Sorry TMI.... I guess i expected it it has been a while.... No AF for at least 6 months....

Good thing is TTC #3 might not be so hard now if i am having a monthly... Woot on that note... But Blerk to the fact that i have it.... LOl....

Sass- DD loves being independant and hold ing a bottle herself...,. I think thats why she prefered the small bottles... easier to hold...

Oh and on the bottle note... I was shocked to see a new line of baby bottles at target yesterday.... they are made by NUBY.... which is the brand that make the shoft spout bottles. (one of) Anyways they have a range of bottles now. The actual bottle part (usually plastic) is like silicone... you can squeese it... well thats the whole idea so mums can squeeze a bit and help bubs drink.... I was a bit angry cos i dont believe babies need milk forced down them.... besides that bubs needs to learn to suck dont they.... anyways they also make a bottle sith a spoon teat.... its so you can put runny pure in the bottle squeeze the bottle and a bit comes out on the sppon for spoon feeding???

[NaNa]

gee, where do people get these ideas from?? I could spend a brazillian dollars on stuff for Aadi to eat with, drink with, play with, sleep with, poop with... whatever, and he would STILL like the box it came in better! I think the whole parenting-peer-pressure and marketing thing is just a tad obscene sometimes. So many gadgets and stuff, it's a bit overwhelming at times.

Jess - well done on handling the ex situation. I'm really lucky in that DP's ex wife is really lovely and I've actually become quite good friends with her. It helps that she lives overseas tho!! It was wierd for a while tho because we were living across the road from her in Dubai. But now she calls me, emails me, sends heaps of gorgeous stuff for Aadi from her travels (she works for a private airline), and has insisted we come to her wedding next year. My XH on the other hand... well, he's a nutter and I'm glad we don't know where he is.
Sorry to hear you're suffering so bad with AF. Do you think it's so bad because of, or at all related to, having had PCOS? I know my old flatmate suffered from it, and once a month she would just disappear for a week and re-emerge looking like death warmed up. Brutal... When I first got AF 5 months PP it was heavier than ever at first, but it's been ok and regular since. Take it easy!!

Girl - what Sassy said! Mention it to the centre director if it bothers you, because they're over-reacting and making you come get DD. And the bottle thing, well that's wrong.

OK, time's up. DS is awake. 45 minutes fighting to get him to sleep and I get a whole 20 minutes as a result. I am soooooo tired...

[Girl-23]

Jess, Sassy, and Nana,

I came running as you can imagine. They called me because in case it might have been some serious. For example, diarrhoea. But she looked pretty healthy and happy to me and just happy to see me. Also, I am a little scared to make a complaint about Yasmeenia feeding on another bottle because what if they mistreat her because I complained? I would be a little concerned about her. I know it might sound crazy to you guys! But I can't help but feel that. The other thing is, I stopped calling. For the first two days I called the centre to see how she was doing, etc. Now, I have stopped in case they get annoyed or irrirated with me. Do I sound crazy? I was thinking, the bottle thing was a one time off, because the Yasmeenia wasn't feeding from the bottle, so she thought she would try another one. On Friday night, I noticed DD had a runny nose and what sounded like a blocked nose, thank goodness I took extra care of her, so it was all clear by Monday. She doesn't go to childcare on Tuesday's. Besides, from Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Monday (9th), she will be going. But for that and until 23rd she will be home with me. And hopefully cut down her days. So she will only be going there two days a week. Thank goodness she doesn't cry when I leave her. She is too busy looking at the other children to notice me disappear. When I come to pick her up she jumps up and down, makes noises and grabs onto me. Lol. Almost midnight, I better get going.

Night everyone.

[Madham]

Girl i can understand your concern with complaining etc, but i think you have every right to question things, yasmeena is your daughter and you are paying them to take good care of her so if she is not cared for in the way you would like then it is your right to say something. I do not like confrontation myself so i can understand you not wanting to say something but when it comes to my children i would speak up.
NaNa ikwym about everything you can buy for children these days it is a bit ridiculous, and it gets worse as they get older and sucked into the advertising themselves. My sister and i have started swapping toys around, every few weeks we swap a few toys and then two weeks later another few, it is working really well and Hamish thinks he has new ones all the time.
Jess i hope you are feeling a bit better, AF is all around the place for me, its beginning to drive me insane. Hopefully once i stop bf it will sort itself out again.

Hi to Bec, Sass, Nikki, Deancey, Mis Tree

I am meeting some ladies from BB today for lunch which will be good, am a bit nervous as i have not had a meet up yet, we were supposed to meet a few weeks ago but Maddi was not well so i didnt make it. Hamish is getting into everything and standing up all the time, in the cot drives me crazy. Anyway i best get some washing done. have a nice day...

[Je$$_84]

Hi all,

Well things here have been going well still... DD sleeping is FANTASTIC... both day and nights. i cant believe the turn around. from waking 5 times a night to all night sleeping since formula. I just am shocked. Very jealous of all of you BF mums. so miss it... yesterday i had a silky nighty on and obviously no bra and DD without even blinking pulled down the top and latched on... I was quick to pull her off cos it was a huge shock... hehe... she cried for ages... poor darl... she still tries for booby feeds... its sad but i know now by her change in behaviour, sleep and just looking at her that she is getting what she needs from the formula...

AF sucks... i have bad period pains still, (always have had bad pains with AF) yesterday i blacked out and had a fall and luckily my DS came to my aid when he heard me crash down to the floor... hehe... he asked if he had to call police... AHAHAHA.... too cute.... he got me a drink and rubbed my big boo boo on my head and even tried to help me stand up... (he can be sweet sometimes) tink i'm not used to the blood loss... very heavy at the mo... but i guess thats normal for no AF in 6 months... so 1 month of no BF and on the pill and i actually got AF on time and according to the pill packet... hoping its good for my TTC plans end of the yr or next yr...

Abb- i have been taking toys packing them away and swapping then round etc... DD just has too much baby toys at the moment... i've told everyone no toys for her b'day... i'd like to get her a nice bracelet or bangle (thinking adult bracelet and having links taken out so she can have them added again later when she is older and she can still wear it)

Girl.... I think that you need to speak up if there is something your not happy with..... I hate confrontation also but like Abb said when it comes to the kids there whats important.

NaNa- i've always had bad period pains.... I think the PCOS may be some reason as to why i suffer so bad... Not sure... Its like bad after birth pains.... Anyone who has had a 2nd or subsequent baby would know how bad after birth pains are after #1.... Its that bad sometimes the only relief is having DS sit on my tummy.... Good thing is i'm utilising the left over maternity pads i still have... AHAHAHA.... Big surf boards are working well for the hevier flow....

Anyone else have a heavier period then usual after not having AF for a while???

[Frangipani]

Hi All,

Nikki - Yeah it is funny how things change so quickly, this time last year we were just beginning to feel movement (well I was anyway, didn't feel my first kick til about 21weeks), and now they are out and about and constantly on the move.

Girl - Maybe you could have a 'nice' word to the childcare centre...something like that you appreciate there effects in trying to give Yasmeenia milk by offering a different bottle, but you would prefer they only use the provided bottles in future. I definitely would say something though as this girl may not be aware it is not the right thing to do.

Abb - Good idea on the toy swapping. I don't see the same babies very often to be able to do this regularly though, but I have spread Cam's toys all over the house - so depending on which room we are in there is different toys to play with. Also got some away which I alternate. How did the meet up go? I would love to meet some of the BB girls at some point...but i would be nervous too. Suddenly internet people become real faces. I've built up images of alot of people from this site - including all you guys and it would be interesting of how close I am with my imagination (I'm usually way off though). Love your new ticker by the way.

NaNa - IKWYM about them loving the boxes more then the actual contents. We've got a couple of boxes in the lounge room which is keeping Cameron amused for ages. It may look a little silly, but hey, if it occupies him for that long and it ain't hurting...why not. How'd Aadi sleep today? Hope it was better then yesterday. Isn't it frustrating taking all that time to get them to sleep then only getting 20mins.

Sassy - It's not fair that our DH's can fall asleep as soon as his head hits the pillow - I toss and turn for at least 1hr...GRRR. You'd think after all the chasing around we do now bub's are on the move we would be so worn out we would collapse into bed, but no! Doesn't it make it alot easier that Jayda can hold her own bottle. Cameron occassionally has bottles when out, he is a bit hit or miss whether he'll hold it though...must depend on his mood, hahaha.

Jess - Can't help on the AF question...still waiting here. I can't understand why I haven't gotten them yet though, being that we don't exclusively BF all the time. Oh well, my can get pretty painful too sometimes, but I don't think as bad as yours by the sound of it. Hope this is a one off for you and the rest improve. Very sweet DS caring for you like that. I'm so glad there has been a positive made of a negative for you with the switching from BF to FF, makes it a little more 'acceptable' hey.

Well still not much happening here. Cam's sleeping is ok, though this morning he woke at 5.15am, but guess I can't complain when he slept til 7am yesterday. He's been having good day sleeps too. The last 2 days he's slept for at least 2.5hrs in the arvo. Getting him to bed is also become easier again. I didn't even get to kiss him good night last night. DH took him in, and I thought I had a moment to get down to say goodnight, as DH thought he didn't have the same nack as I do to now just lay him down and walk out. But apparently he does, as no sooner had I stood up, DH was closing his door and didn't hear another peep from Cameron til this morning.

Oh, gotta go Cam's finally woken.

Bye for now

[sassy123]

jess: ur lucky u have only just af mine came 2 weeks after i stopped bleeding after having jayda and have been full on ever since. except i skipped 2 cause it was so hot and wanted to go swiming then a week b4 this last period i started spotting and i was thinkin this one is gonna be a big one cause i skipped 2 but it was only like spotting but for nearly 3 weeks.

i am gettin so angry with jayds sleeping at the mo. how bad does it have to be to take them to a sleep school?
she is fine once she is a sleep but getting her to sleep is killing me. last ngiht was 2hrs of rocking which i made DH do cause i was so cranky with him lol.
i tried to controlled cryign last ngiht got up to 3min of cryign and she spewed everyywhere. then i put her on the floor while i tried getting her sheets off cuas ei forgot to put the protector back on afte rht elast spew a few days ago and she was still scream and spewed all over the carpet so i yelled at Dh to help cause there was spew everywhere so he got angry at me for yelling cause all i had to do was ask. but it is abit hard to say oh my lovely Dh please can u take the baby while i clean up all this spew, when u have had about 6 hrs sleep the whole week, r sore from tryin to exercise and he has done nothign to help all night.
ok sorry that was so long lol.

[Frangipani]

Sassy - Sorry to hear Jayda's sleeping issues haven't improved. Maybe give the sleep school a call and explain the issues. They might suggest something else you could try and then if that doesn't work you could make an appointment to go in (actually probably worth making the appointment when you initially call them cause doesn't it usually take a couple of weeks to get in???). I can understand how frustrated you would have been, while DH did nothing to help. I've had this happen to me many a times too. I also end up shouting at him to help and get the same reponse back...GRRR! Now if it was the other way around we would just be expected to help and get that we shouldn't need to be asked. Men can't live with them...Can't live without them

[NaNa]

yeah, sassy, IKWYM!! I made it DP's job to put Aadi to sleep now. I whinge to him by text message all day when it's really rough (like yesterday) then make sure that DS is bathed, fed and ready for gentle play and wind down before sleep when DP gets home. DP is really proud of himself now because he can put him to sleep without too much fuss, but he thinks I'm bunging it on when I have had nothing but trouble all day trying to get Aadi down for a nap. I just showed him the bruises from where Aadi kicks me. I've often shouted at him tho, when Aadi's puking everywhere or being a little horror and I just need a hand. He gets up me for shouting but it's so frustrating and I've told him so many times not to rack off at bedtime, so now it's just his job. He's been reading "The No-Cry Sleep Solution" on the train on the way to work!!
You could try the sleep school, but Bec's right, it can take ages to get an appointment or even a consultation. I can't offer any suggestions, coz I can't get my kid to stop fighting sleep. Yesterday he fought sleep and skipped his morning nap. By 11 he was exhausted but still fighting it. I took him out for a long walk but he didn't sleep till 12pm, then only for 50 minutes. He woke up screaming, and didn't stop or really calm down until 5 when he collapsed in a heap and slept for maybe an hour. By then DP was home, and he was a perfect little angel. GRRRRR!!!!

Abb - How was your BB meet-up? I hope we can catch up at the one in June or whenever!

[Madham]

Abb - How was your BB meet-up? I hope we can catch up at the one in June or whenever!

It was good, one lady couldn't make it but there was three of us and the children. One girl with a 20 mnth old and due for 2nd bub in 10 days, another with a 11 mnth old son, other one with 1 year old girl. I think we will meet up again soon.
I hope to get to the meet up in Melbourne in June so it will be great to meet you.

[Je$$_84]

Hi ladies,

Just a quick one before i take DS to preschool. THings are going well,

We had a bit of a bad day and 2 wake ups but all is good.... DD has grown up just way to fast. i cant believe she is happy to play alone. I mean she went from being a clingy whingy baby girl to a delight. i mean she still has moments but its just so nice to see her able to amuse herself for for a portion of the day,she has been playing peekaboo with her Dora lounge, and she's just so inquisitive and intregued with everything.

Abb- Glad to hear you had a great time with the BB ladies....

NaNa and Sass- sorry to hear your having sleeping issues. Just when i think i have DD sorted out she does a back flip like last night AND NOTHING WORKS....

Bec- DS was my saviour and made me very proud. I have been trying to look at the FF as a positive as i was (am ) finding that i still struggle with the "bad mothers guilt" soi have to keep a positive spin on the decision or else i'd cave in and be a blubbering mess (like i was with DS) Wish my DP could put DD to bed... He tries but she cries for me, think he just doesnt do the same things. maybe eventually... DP is a bit slow to pick up on things....

Well GTG. Have a meeting with preschool about little miss... i'm thinking about starting the visits now.... want to know if tey'll let me slowly introduce her to stying... (I>E staying with her for 10-15 mins while she plays etc then slowly more and more.... just dont want to have to pay a full days fees for only 30 mins if she wont stay there, so we'll see what happens....

[Frangipani]

Hi All,

NaNa - doesn't that make you so frustrated when bubs turn to little angels when somebody else is around...I know when I have a challenging day with Cameron I'm watching the clock for when DH gets home as I know he'll to a 180 when DH walks in the door.

Abb - Glad you had a nice time with the BB ladies. Who did you end up meeting? I know there is a few meet ups happening up this way, but as they are in Brisbane I'm a little hesitant to go as I can't stand to drive around Brisbane and I know I will end up lost and frustrated on the side of the road (not worth the hassle) - but I would probably do a meet up if it was on the coast.

Jess - When do you think you'll be putting Tiahna in childcare for full days? I will probably start to do the lead up days from April, in time for mid May. It will hopefully make it a lot easier (for him and me ). Cameron is a big fan of peek a boo - we get lots of giggles out of it.

Well one of Cameron's top teeth have broken through overnight. It's amazing how quickly they pop through in just 12hrs (as I had checked his mouth before I put him to bed and I'm pretty sure it wasn't there).

He has also learnt to kiss - its a little opened mouthed and slobbery, but it's definitely a kiss. He had been doing that to me for a few weeks, but on Wednesday when Mum picked him out of the highchair she cuddled him and he turned his head to her and kissed her on the lips. He then did it yesterday arvo with DH - when he got home. It's so cute. He has also learnt to do that noise like when you play 'cowboys and indians' - with his hand slapping his mouth while he makes a noise. I've been trying to get him to do it for a few months - then finally last week he did it for me, and now he can do it himself. I did the grocery shopping on my own with Cameron the other day and towards the end he was getting a little bored - so I encouraged him to do this and it kept him amused for the rest of the time.

Well I actually tried to submit this about 1.5hrs ago but belly belly seemed to be down. Cam's now woken and time to get ready to go out - we're going to a playhouse/cafe with some ladies and bubs from mothers group.

Bye for now

[Je$$_84]

Well i spoke with Preschool and they says its best to leave bubs for few hours at a time not small visits like 30 mins. She told me to start about a month before but that doesnt give me much time if she isnt used to it by the time i have to go back. So i might book her in in a few weeks just to see how she goes. she has never been away from me for longer then 30 mins (enough time to pick up dinner or duck to the shops)
I'd prefer to know if she'll be ok early rather then her still not be fully adjusted and me have to be called from work. DP still doesnt want me to go back but with DS at primary school next yr i thought i'd be better to keep the job as its only 2 days. Well i'll go back and give it a go and see how things work out.

Bec- DD does the open mouth Kisses to me (well she kinda just opens her mouth and liks my face. its gorgeous. she's also loving to give hugs now too.... she's getting so talkative and lots of new sounds... she says "es" now (like YES) when you ask her stuff, like do you wanna come up... hehe... very cute....

Well best be off, cleaning today while DS isnt here....

[Madham]

Hi everyone

Just took Hamish to his first swimming lesson, he absolutely loved it. I have taken him swimming before but not a lesson. He went under the water no worries and loved the songs and splashing i was very happy. We are big pool and beach people so i am so pleased he enjoys it to. Dd could swim when she was 3 so i hope Hamish will be the same. He feel asleep right after before i even started the car and still asleep now (an hour later), he had a hour sleep before we went also. His two top teeth are through now so hopefully no more for a little while.

Bec - i met Bun, Laura133 and Je$$, another lady(Cocoabambino) couldnt make it but will come to the next one. It was good, nice and relaxing as babies played in playroom while we ate and chatted.

Jess - I am so dredding the day i have to go back to work full time, atm i am only doing 2 days a week, usually thursday night and sunday, both times dp is home to look after kids. He doesnt want me to go back full time and atm i dont need to, thinking of doing an extra day maybe as we want to have a holiday at the end of the year, so need a bit extra cash.

Hi to everyone else
Have a great weekend..

[Je$$_84]

Abb- YAY on the swimming lesson.... if i wassnt so body conscience i'd take DD and DS. Were not really beach or pool people. (as in going to the local pools) We did have our own pool which we used a bit... DS loved it and i'm sure DD would have cos she loves playing in the bath although hates the water over her face so who knows.... I used to love how tired it would make DS. definatly a perk... hehe

Maybe that is a solution to those non sleeping babies... take them swimming late arvo...

Also Laura133 seems like a nice person i have chatted on here with her also... havent heard of the others but i'm sure they r just as nice.... I havent had any time for meets ups and what not... the days seem to be slipping away before i know it DD will be 1 and my baby wont be a baby.... Awweeeee.....

Well DD has been driving me nuts. i think cos DS was at preschool she felt a bit lost. she was looking round and crawling EVERYWHERE... I think she was looking for DS. Poor girl. She wouldnt sleep at 1st but after a while she gave in and when she woke up DP was home so she was fliping out.... yelling, squeeling, clapping, kicking swinging arms.... you name it she was doing it for ages.... must have just been so excited to see DP then i went and picked up DS and she did the same... very cute but funny to watch.

Well best be off... DP has taken the boat out for a test and i wanna sweep down the concrete before he parks it again...

[Frangipani]

Hi All,

Jess - I've now started to try to teach Cam yes and nodding my head. For getting up we usually say up up and he puts his arms up and seems to do the mouth movement (but not really any sound) for up. He is already learnt no...from every time I've said it to him when he touches things he shouldn't. He also shakes his head alot and I tend to mimic him and say no when he does it - something I've probably got to stop...as I wouldn't want to encourage NO...i can just imagine him backchatting me with NO (I realise he will backchat at some point anyway, just don't want to encourage it too early, ).
Very cute Tiahna looking for Jordan and getting excited when DH and Jordan got home. Cam has the same reaction when DH gets home and when Mum visits on Wednesdays. Guess he must get bored looking at my face all the time

Abb - yay on the swimming. I've been thinking of taking Cam again. We haven't been since November. It got a little busy over xmas and to be honest it got a little boring, especially for the cost. They did the same thing everyweek, and that didn't include putting his head under (well they did once, but for the next 4 weeks after they didn't). As we have a pool we just continued to teach the same things we'd learnt. I've taken him in a fair bit and I know it usually exhausts him...its great. But now I think it might be time to go back to see if there is anything new we can learn.

Yesterday we went to the playcentre...it's call Smileez - its an indoor play centre and cafe (there is a website if you want to see what I mean). Its just got lots of climbing things, toys and ball pit. Cameron had a blast. We met some of the mothers group ladies and bubs there and he had fun interacting with them and learning to share. He also loved the ball pit (i've posted a pic in the gallery) - at first he was a bit unsure how to move, but he got the idea. We will be going again in a fortnight. It's great at the moment as it's free til they turn 1. He was sooo exhausted after though, fell asleep on the way home, then again after I fed him at home. Then I woke him at 4.30 to go for a walk and when we got home he was playing on the ground, but every now and then he would lay his head down, look at me and sigh...like geez mum i'm so tired. He went down to sleep very easily last night too.

We're off to visit a friends new bub today...he born last sunday. It was the bub I think I'd mentioned a few months ago saying it was meant to be bigger then their 1st. It was only bigger by a few ounces though...it was 9pound5.5ounces. It will be strange holding a newborn again, but at least I'll feel more comfortable holding one. This will be the 1st newborn I've held since having Cameron (and I hadn't really held that many bubs before Cameron) - I won't look as awkward.

Have a good weekend
Bye for now,