Dan - Im the same, up 3 times to settle the cheeky brat - as soon as I put her down she screamsI have never had to settle her before so I feel like Im in newborn mode too. :hugs: Gotta go - BBL - we got a new car today!! 2005 Forester!
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Dan - Im the same, up 3 times to settle the cheeky brat - as soon as I put her down she screams
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I'm in the same boat ladies, I think most of us are. Must be something that happens with teething/around this age in general it seems.
I just realised, Blake is 6 months old next Sunday *OMG*
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Its been up and down for us lately too. Luke went through a terrible phase where he wouldn't settle either - there was lots of bouncing and rocking him to sleep in our arms, which we've NEVER had to do before!! But, he's settling really well again now, he's just waking up so many times in the night and his 2am feed is a good one - he takes the whole 250ml bottle - so I don't think he'll ever sleep through, he obviously needs the extra feed then!! Who knows but I'm also settling him about 4 times throughout the night, so I'm lucky to get a 3 or 4 hour sleep. Then, I have trouble getting back to sleep, which is really frustrating. Anyway, it could be worse so I can't complain.
I think we all need a big group hug!!!!
Ash - I got the sunnies from Pumpkin Patch and we haven't had Luke in them all that much but when we have he doesn't seem to mind them!! The strap is really good and I just love them!! I was looking everywhere too and nearly bought some cheap Big W ones but now I'm glad I waited and got the more expensive ones with the strap!! They have some good ones at the Cancer Council too, I just didn't have a chance to get out there!!
Well, DH's plane has been delayed
Take care everyone!
Kelly xxx
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Sorry to hear so many of you are having a hard trot at the moment. These bubba's certainly keep us on our toes. Julian ended up getting sick, poor little thing. I feel terrible that this is his 3rd bout of illness in 5 months and somehow feel responsible for it. His first night of being sick he woke at 3am but since then he is sleeping through again thankfully. I pop him in his cot at 7:30pm to sleep and I do a dream feed at around 10:30pm and then he wakes up at 7am. He has two naps a day of 1.5-2 hours each and a quick cat nap at 5 o'clock. I followed the baby whisperer book and so far it has worked for me. I'd be lost without it, it seems to have advice for everything.
I hope your bubba's start sleeping through for you soon as it is very hard being sleep deprived. Take care xox
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I feel so guilty hearing all your girls having such awful nights with your bubbies. Izzy has patches of being diabolical, but generally she is just so good.
Dan - I really hope sleep school gives you some answers so you can get some much needed rest. I wouldn't worry too much about your DH. I'm sure he understands at least to some extent how hard this mummy gig is, and how bad sleep deprivation is. So long as you remember to acknowledge to him that you're being a crabby cow, he'll be fine. You're doing a beautiful job raising his princess!
Tan - how exciting. A new car. They look really lovely. Izzy won't know herself in her new princess carriage! Did you get a Tommee Tippee bottle? If yes, did Izzy like it?
Jan - boo for Julian getting sick. Provided you're not leaving him on the side of a mountain at night, I'm sure its not your fault. I have a friend who takes such brilliant care of her little girl, and yet if there is something going around, the poor little thing gets it. She's 18 months old and I've lost track of the amount of times she's had really bad gastro. I haven't read the baby whisperer's book but I saw her giving a talk at the baby expo here. She seemed really good and I really liked the way she looked at things.
Danni - sorry to hear that sleep school didn't give you a magic cure. Hopefully its just a stage for Mason and he'll find those long night sleeps again.
Kelly - that's a shame about DH's flight being delayed. Stoopid planes. On the nights that Izzy wakes for a feed she has a huge one too. Maybe things will change once you put him on solids?
Nothing really new to report here. I'm trying to get Izzy onto regular formula. I'm a bit worried about how she'll go when we start solids if she still can't tolerate wheat and dairy - rules an awful lot of stuff out! She had a couple of bottles yesterday of "normal" and it didn't seem to aggravate her reflux so fingers crossed.
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lulu: i cant believe you are 11 weeks!!! you having a scan soon??
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Selfish one here again from me - we are still struggling with day and night sleeps
I have the number of a sleep lady in Melbourne who does home visits and only charges $60 an hour and most visits are 2 hours max. so am thinking I will call her. Have registered with 3 sleep schools but my chances of getting in before Christmas are pretty slim. Im going to the Pinky sleep seminar too next week - fingers crossed it helps.
Its amazing how she can be fully asleep in my arms and the minute I start to lower her into bed her whole body wriggles and fights it and her arms and legs go flying up and down like crazy. Im still trying the bottle each day but no success so far. Luckily she is such a gorgeous happy girl at all other times otherwise I would really be going stir crazy ( more so than I am) I really do still feel like I have a newborn at nap and night time though and feeling so clueless - as one girl at mothers group said - they all went through it weeks ago when Izzy was sleeping 11 hours a night and napping perfectly, now the tables have turned -they have worked out all the issues and been to sleep school etc and Im just starting.
Hope you are all ok - sorry for the lack of personals right now - Im just too tired to go back and read. I agree with Kelly though - I think we all need this
Hi everyone,
Sorry I havent been on 4 a while been really busy with Corey and personal problems like my PND.
Hope everyone is doing well.
Hayley.
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tan: izzy sounds the same as mason. I had to try and resettle him for 2 hourd last night from midnight to 2am. I was going mad. I really am struggling with depression and anxiety just because of his sleeping. its just crazy
You should get into tweddle before xmas. When did they book the day for the lady to call you? It should be within a few weeks after that
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I have phone interveiws on the 29th and 1st - Tweddle did say it would be after Christmas
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ok i got an interview on the 14h oct...then i rang back the next day and said i cannot cope anymore blah blah...and she got the interview for me a week earlier..(next monday).
Try calling right now and telling her youve been up all night and day and you cannot go on. Say anything you can!!
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Tan & Danni - I hope you guys get some answers and some sleep really soon!! This motherhood thing certainly is trying at times!! Lucky our bubs are so damn cute and the laughing and smiles make it all worth it!!! And Tan, for the record, I'm still jealous that you had a brief stint of 11 hour sleeps!!The most we've had is 6 hours in a row and even thats only been a couple of times!! I guess it does make it harder when you've had it and lost it though!!
After picking DH up from the airport at midnight the other night, I'm still trying to catch up on sleep too!!! Last night, I was sooo tired and just when we were trying to eat dinner, Luke decided he'd start screaming!! Its just so frustrating sometimes. DH came out with the best comment - "Lucky its not bin day or you'd be out with the recycling little man"!!
I've decided to try and feed Luke a little more regularly during the day and see if we can cut out the night feed. So far, he's just taken the extra feed and still demanding the night feed - so now I'm worried I'm going to overfeed him (now that we're on formula and all)!! Instead of feeding four hourly, he's now feeding three hourly. So instead of 4 feeds a day, he's having 5 a day - and then the extra one at night. I don't really know what to do anymore! He woke at 2am last night and there was nothing we could do to settle him. Three times he fell asleep in our arms but as soon as we put him down he screamed. Then when I finally gave him the bottle, he took it all - so he must be hungry, poor little man. I don't think we're ever going to be able to cut that feed out.
Anyway must go - sorry for the selfish post again.
Kelly xxx
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LMAO Kelly, I say that ALL the time about Blake.
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Kelly - I wouldn't worry about overfeeding Luke. I try to feed Izzy three hourly during the day and try to make sure she has five feeds. if she only gets four, I know she's going to wake up for a night feed. It took a while for her to get out of the habit of that night feed though. ROFL at your DH's comment. That's a classic. I joke to Izzy that I'm going to lock her in the cupboard under the stairs when she's not a good girl.
Tan - you poor love. I'm with Danni - ring them and tell them you're just not coping, you're a mummy on the edge! The midwife who took our birth and parenting course here said that if we ever needed to get into Ngala, which is the most recognised sleep school in Perth, you ring and bawl and tell them you're losing it - the demand for places is so high they bump up those who seem to be coping the least well.
Hayley - sorry to hear you're having PND problems. I hope you can come out on the light side soon.
Danni - my scan is next Wednesday. Looking forward to the 20 week one so I can find out what flavour Ned is.
Well, I've had a pretty awful night and day. Woke up at about 2am with horrible stomach spasms, lots of vomiting etc. Had the same thing when I was 33 weeks pregnant with Izzy. I really hope its not something that's going to keep happening. I swear its more painful than childbirth! Poor DH has had to look after Iz all day. The good news is that her tooth has FINALLY broken through her gum, so I now have a little toofed girl - so cute.
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Congrats on Izzy cutting her first tooth. Bluddy Blakey's are still teasing me
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masons are still teasing here too...c ongrats izzy!!
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Lulu - wow, the first tooth now that is exciting! I can't believe that your 20 week scan is next week. I remember when we were in our pregnancy thread time just seemed to drag on especially up to 20 weeks. Where does the time go!
Kelly - I think it sounds like a good idea to feed him more during the day. If he gets the right amount during the day technically he won't need to wake up during the night. Have you ever tried not feeding him at night and tried settling with a dummy or patting? I did that a couple of nights and by the 3rd or 4th night he slept through and as I knew he didn't need the feed I didn't feel bad about it. The crying got less with each night I did it. That was when Julian was 3 months old so it might take abit longer to break the cycle now but it may be worth a try.
Hayley - how are you going? We are here to help if you'd like to tell us how you are feeling. It must be so hard for you with the PND. I hope that you are OK.
Tan - sorry to hear you are having a bad time. I was doing the same thing with the rocking and feeding to sleep and I realised that it wasn't working for us. I tried really hard for a week to get him to sleep on his own. It was awful but it ended up working. I put him down for a sleep awake when he looked tired, then when he cried I'd pick him up and as soon as he stopped crying I'd put him back down again. You repeat the process until they fall asleep. They get the hang of it and by the end of the week he was self settling. I think they must do something similar at sleep school. Do they get the bubba's on a routine there as well?
Dan - I hope sleep school helps you out. Don't worry about your DH, I'm sure he knows that you are tired and that's why you are emotional at the moment. We have all done it. It is from sheer exhaustion. Take care and let us know how you go.
Poor Julian is still sick. Yesterday I gave him his formula feed as I've started giving him one a day and the vomit that came out of him was unbelievable. He threw up 4 times, the last one being green. We panicked (i was with my mum) and we went to a medical centre as his mormal doctor wasn't available. The doctor told me off for giving him formula referring to is as that 'horrible s26 stuff' and then saying to Julian 'you poor thing mummy is trying to get you off the breast'. I couldn't believe it. He then said it could be reflux which was rubbish as he's never had this before then eventually came to the same conclusion as me that it was plegm (sp?) that made him be sick. To top it off the secretary was giving me that look before we went in like shut your baby up as Julian was unsettled. She told me that there was a microwave if I wanted to do something for him and I promptly told her that he was upset because we'd already waited an hour when we had an appointment and he was tired and sick!
Anyway enough from me. Take care ladies!
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Oh Jan - How awful. I think I would of punched the doctor (and secretary) if it was me!! How dare they say what they said - I think its absolutely disgusting! Anyway, I hope Julian is ok and feeling much better now - what a scare. Oh and yeah, we've tried settling Luke at night when he wakes and it works every now and again but only for an hour or so, then he wakes again until I feed him!! Last night, we tried EVERYTHING!! Even DH got up (because that's how histerical Luke was) - I think he thought I was doing something terrible to him!! We dont usually even have to pick him up but this time managed to get him to sleep in our arms three times but every time we put him down, he'd scream. That is until I got the bottle out!! He just seemed to be really hungry!! Anyway, I guess I can't expect the extra feed thing to work overnight, so I'll keep it up for the week and see what happens.
I hate to say this because every time I get my hopes up, things go terribly wrong but we've had a FANTASTIC day today!! Luke's morning sleep lasted for two hours (unheard of), then he had a half hour nap at lunch time in the pram while we were going for a lovely walk along the river (it was the most beautiful day in Perth today). Then he had another hour and a half from 3.45pm to 5.15pm. Incredible. So I fed him the 'extra' feed at 5.15pm when he woke up, then we had some great play time, then his bath and some more quite play while I had my dinner. He started grizzling at 7.30pm, so I made up another bottle, praying that he'd take it and he did - almost took the whole lot (I think he only left about 30ml). After the bottle, we sat quietly for a while and when I put him down in his cot at 8pm, he went to sleep straight away and didn't even make a sound (again unheard of - he usually gives a few cries and I have to go in at least once to put the dummy back in, but this time, NOTHING, he just put himself to sleep). I even went back in to make sure he was ok. Soooooo... as much as I don't want to say it, I'm hoping we're going to have a good night tonight. Only problem is that DH is studying tonight and won't be home until about 10pm, I'm sooo worried that he'll wake Luke when he gets home. Our front door is very noisy and Luke's room is close by it. Oh well, nothing I can do about that.
Wish me luck and I hope all our bubs are kind to us tonight - bring on some sleep!!
Kelly xxxx
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