Babies Born~ May 16th-31st 2009 #2

[wysiwyg]

Bella - Luckily we haven't had any issues with DTD so can't really offer any useful advice relating to issues after pregnancy (I think having a C-Section helped in that regard), however I have had stinging/soreness before after not DTD for a while (I used to go with work overseas for 6-8weeks at a time sometimes) - to get over it we just kept trying and now just try to DTD as regular as possible because I know if leave it a while is less enjoyable. Luckily CJ is being an excellent little night sleeper so we are pretty much back to how it was pre-pregnancy.

Leading me to my question - CJ the past four nights has slept 8:30 ish till 7:30 with no wake up, so her last feed starts at around 7:45 - so that is almost 12 hours between feeds. Do you think this is ok - seems a long time at 9 weeks (At 32 I can't go 12 hours without food!) should I be waking her for a feed at 10:30pm or something. I wasn't too worried about this but this morning she did a wee on the change table and was a bit yellow, the rest of the day it is clear as before, but her urine is smelling more urine like recently (I know friends with older babies said this happens). She is her happy normal self, but only really catnaps in the daytime. In the early evening she is cluster feeding so she is drinking plenty before her mega long sleep.

I am trying some different techniques to try and get her to have proper sleeps in the day - but they just seem to make her upset - she is now crying so have to go will be back later.

[Snacks]

Vic: Natty used to do the same thing. At around 3mo she was sleeping 11ish hours overnight but only catnapping during the day. She had better naps from around 4.5 - 5 months but then woke overnight for feeds. I think it's ok - it's like you said, she is making up for the lost feeds during the day (particularly with the cluster feeding before bedtime). She's big enough to let you know when she needs to be fed, so I'd just go with it... and enjoy the lovely sleep
Did you go to the movies today? I think it was Ice Age 3, wasn't it?
Bella: Re DTD - my Dr told us the normal way of things is that your perineum gets the brunt of the initial force of penetration, (ie it goes down, then in IYKWIM?) so if you had stitches this could be painful (or it might just feel a bit burny as the scar tissue stretches). You can do some perineal massage with some oil or lube, just to get the scar tissue a bit more elastic. Also, when you DTD, you should guide it in so that it doesn't push on your perineum more than it needs to, KWIM? LOL, Sorry if I've said too much for some people. I find that breastfeeding does tend to make DTD less enjoyable for me. The hormones make things drier down there and also I don't enjoy boob-play as much... Ok, that's probably enough info for you, sorry! But there you go. Last time I found that the more we did it, the better it got. This time we've only done it a few times cause I'm so tired all the time! But I didn't experience as much discomfort this time round. I HTH a little
BG: So sorry about all the stress with DH's work. I hope things calm down a bit now.
Bridg: Is your oldest kid (DH) better yet? LOL. Great about the 8-hour sleep. Poor Jake re the tooth fairy thing. It must be tough being a twin sometimes - you can't always do/have the same things at the same time.
Naomi: YAY for coming down to the meet-up! DH reckons he is going to make himself unavailable for work on that day, so I can go ahead and book tickets! Hooray!!! I probably won't stay overnight though. I don't really want to leave Natty that long. But I'm sooooo looking forward to meeting everyone! LOVE Bailey's pics!

We had such a great day at the zoo today. We did see Luk Chai (the baby elephant) - what a cutie! And Natty did so well - I was expecting to only stay 3-ish hours, but we stayed 5 and a half - she was really good the whole time. She was a bit frightened of the bigger animals though. Took some pics and will post a few on FB - esp of the elephant Phoebe slept for pretty much the whole time. I did wake her to feed her cause my bozooms were going CRAZY, but apart from that she was a little sleeping beauty. Am so very knackered now though! Will try for an early night... but with all today's sleeping I'm not sure what time my little party animal will decide to go to bed

[~ Mylitta ~]

Just a quick hello before I head off to bed. Kyson has been keeping me awake all night for the last 3-4 nights so I'm constantly a bit tuckered out and am only just managing to keep up with you girls here and on facebook, but not getting time to post here. Kyson has decided to go back to feeding every 3ish hours during the night (as well as during the day) and often cluster feeds in the morning. He doesn't cry during the night, but he fidgets constantly and starts working up to a cry unless I reach over and put his dummy in. And even then sometimes I have to keep my hand on his head for him to stay calm. Luckily I can manage to keep him quiet enough that DH doesn't wake up during the night, not even during feed times. With DH home at the moment it means that after a restless night for me, he is able to play with Kyson for at least an hour in the morning so that I can catch a few extra zzzz's. I'm sure it can't be another growth spurt, because I'm sure he just had one... Hopefully it's just a phase and he'll start sleeping longer soon. Everyone else's bubs seem to be sleeping longer and it's starting to get to me a little and I'm getting a little upset. Not upset at Kyson, just a bit sad that he's not able to sleep longer because I'm sure it must affect him in other ways too.

He's mostly doing really well though. He's happy during the day and he's sleeping the first sleep cycle of his naps in his cot. He tends to wake after the 45 mins though and I can't seem to get him to sleep again without constant fussing unless I let him sleep the second half of his sleep in my arms. But at least he's getting rest.

DH and I took him swimming last Thursday. We went to the Maribyrnong Aquatic Centre because my 3yo niece has her swimming lessons there on Thursdays. I took Kyson in the warm exercise pool and he loved it! He was quite happy and we stayed in there for over half an hour. He's so cute when I lay him on his tummy with his head in my hands and he kicks his little legs around behind him like a frog I even got the courage to dunk him under the water! I blew on his face first so that he would inhale, then quickly dunk him sideways (so the water doesn't go straight up his nose) and under for a second. He didn't even get upset!!! I was so proud. Oh, and he got a lot of attention from admirers in the pool

Wish I could do some persies, but hopefully he'll let me do some tomorrow. But I must say that I adore the new avvies!!!

[briggsy's girl]

KL - there must be something going on with the universe at the moment - E is back to waking through the night more than once - it's a bit of a shock to the system. she's also started seriously screaming the house down if i move her away from the boob (even when asleep) or try to burp her - it's full on! she's as happy as a pig in mud if she decides she's done and wants to sit up, but mummy has hell to pay if she tries to dictate. very emotionally trying

to the DTD question - with DH being away for work and things we're not having as much "fun" as was normal pre-pg - and when we do it can be painful. i had a c/s so i know it's not from that - i think it's just from lack of natural lube and stuff. i actually have a graze from our last exploits... sigh! poor DH (and me!) - he feels so bad he won't try anything again for ages and the break will mean it all goes back again and same thing will happen.

sorry for no more persies - just got home from mum's and got E to bed - with all the tanty's and stuff it took me nearly 2 hours to leave - i can't bring myself to put an hysterical bub in the car seat - it's not fair on her. little turd though - i managed to calm her after a second feed - kept saying i wanted to take her home to bed but she had to stay calm and things so that she knew what was going on (i refuse to believe she's not up to that level of understanding already lol) - she stayed calm and even smiled when i put her in the capsule! mum reckons she wanted to go home - goodo - don't scream then! lol

[MummyNaomi]

Vic - love the avi, you are such a hawks fan, and didn't you guys get married on a tram, nice work!!! Re CJs sleep habits, if she seems happy and is eating regularly during the day and poo-ing and wee-ing reguarly, go with it, she'd waken if she was hungry - I am with Amy on this one, our little ones certainly know how to tell us when they need us re crying etc so it sounds fine, the only downside is she is probably getting so much sleep at night she may not be needing as much during the day - hence the day sleep dilema - its such a double edged sword (so to speak)

Awwwwwww Krystie - I know its hard but try not to get upset about Kysons sleeping habits, I think the worse thing we do to ourselves is compare our babies to others and worry when others do different things that might be viewed as favourable that ours aren't doing, so don't beat yourself up about it. Bailey still feeds three hourly day and night except for only one feed he has dropped (I put him to bed about 630ish atm and he skips the 930-10ish one), then generally reverts back to 3-maybe 4 hourly if I am lucky) so you are not alone. I know what you mean though, I would love him to sleep through like some of the other babies but thats just not Bailey, he obviously needs his more regular feeds and Kyson probably does too at the moment, where as some of the other babies are just making their milk last longer. I guess like us adults babies have varied metabolism and eating habits and there isn't a great deal we can do about it. At our mothers group we were discussing how people label babies as 'good', 'fussy', 'needy' etc and how it really is wrong and causes great distress to parents, and I find that lots of people ask me if Bailey is sleeping through the night yet - and my answer is yes - apart from feeding which is a necessity, he does sleep through, its not like he is acting up or screaming all night, and lots of people dont understand than breast milk is so much more easily digestable that formula which keeps baby full and asleep longer, so there is some sacrifices we make as breast feeding mums, sleep being one of them. Sorry to rave on but I hate to hear when any of our group are upset so I hope this makes you feel a little better, and HUGS and be sure to get some rest when Kyson sleeps too - a good nights sleep does wonders to make you feel better about any situation so as you are sleep deprived atm its probably making you worry/feel upset un-necessarily. I think you are a great Mummy, very nuturing and a real 'earthy mother' hehehehe and I am in awe of you and your beautiful little man!! The swimming sounds like lots of fun, sounds like you have a water baby there with the little froggy swimmer LOL

Amy - so glad to hear you are likely to make the meet-up too, I cant wait to meet you, I am really excited to meet our fantastic group. Not 100% sure if I will stay overnight or try to fly in/out the same day yet - will see what flights/times are on offer. I am thinking it might be easier to stay one night as not sure how Bailey will cope with 2 flights in one day. Cant wait to see the Zoo pics, glad to hear you all had a great day!!

Bella - Dont worry re the TMI, I think our group have discussed all sorts of things so we can all take it LOL. We have DTD with mixed results so I dont have too much advice to offer LOL, the first time was pretty ordinary and a bit sore - and due to my crazy cycle and (now) 3 week AF (which is finally coming to and end thank god), opportunities to 'make luuuuurve' have been few and far between. However now that my cycle is hopefully back to normal DH and I will try to resume something close to a normal sex life LOL. Having said that my next AF is now due in just a few days - DOH!!!!

BG - what is it with screaming bubba's today? DH took a day off today to spend with us, and dressed Bailey and when he put the clothes over Baileys head he freaked out and took about 2 hours to calm, its was horrid, he was doing that heartbreaking sob cry and then sobbing for ages after, both DH and I got a bit teary as nothing we tried helped - even on the boob he cried the whole time. Finallly he exhausted himself and went to sleep so we put him in the carseat and went out as planned (but quite delayed), fortunately when he woke he then reverted back to his happy normal self and his smiles were a good tonic as I think both DH and I were a bit worse for wear as it was such an emotional morning. Hope E has settled down for you and you get some more smiles too, isn't it just sooooo heartbreaking when they are beside themselves.

Bridg - good luck with all the kids needles tomorrow. We already have Baileys 2nd round booked - for the 18th August - god he is growing up fast!

AFU - Thanks for all the lovely comments re our pics. I have been busy framing our photo's and put some hooks in the walls tonight so have hung them all up. I am so proud of the photo's and in awe of my gorgeous little boy and will really treasure them. I was looking at one of the family ones and wondering what I did to deserve such a handsome hubby and gorgeous baby - like you Bella I am soooooooooooo happy being a Wife and Mummy - life is pretty damn good hey?

Well I s'pose I should head to bed, mothers group tomorrow and the IL are coming for tea - I am so trying to be a good DIL hehehehe

Take care, Hi to everyone else

Naomi
x

[*TripleJ*]

well now i really feel like the odd one out love everyones avvy's

well we got a car yay!!! its a 2000 KIA sportage burgandy colour only its a manual haven't driven one for 3 years hope i remember how lol

naomi - i love the professional pics of bailey

[briggsy's girl]

J - the manual will come back to you in no time! i can't stand driving auto's now - never really have - i get bored lol!

Naomi - i know what you mean about being heartbroken when they're beside themselves - i was at my parents place yesterday when E was doing it and my dad ended up going to work early. i couldn't force her to stop crying and given i'm alone so much of the time i persevered with her rather than handing her to someone that doesn't smell like milk (well the second time i did - the first time i really needed to pee so granma took her - she calmed down, burped - happy again!) wish she'd realise that i'm trying to help get rid of the pain and the more she screams, the more air she is gulping in and is making it worse! she's had a massive dirty nappy this morning and was all smiles afterwards, is fluffing up a storm at the moment (can hear her on baby monitor) - so hopefully we might be a little more pain free today.

[~ Mylitta ~]

BG - I noticed on facebook that E had a good sleep last night. I hope that means you are feeling nice and rested today Sorry to hear that she woke up with an ouchy tummy though. It's so cute when they are fluffing in their sleep though isn't it? I wonder at what age do you stop laughing at them when they fart and burp and start telling them they are disgusting? Hehe.

Jacinta - Congrats on the new car! I'm sure driving a manual will be like riding a bike. No never forget

Naomi - Thank you so much for your post. Yes, you did make me feel much better. What also made me feel better was Kyson having a better night last night, lol, but your post definitely helped a lot too! I didn't realise that Bailey was still feeding that often too. I was starting to think that Kyson was the only one still doing such short periods between feeds. It looks like last night he dropped the same feed that Bailey does. I fed him at 7.15pm and then he was in bed by about 8.45 (little monkey wouldn't go straight to sleep, I think he wanted to watch Grey's Anatomy with me!) and DH and I went to bed at 10.15pm. I expected Kyson to wake up when we got into bed for a feed because it was 3 hours since his last feed, and usually I would give him a rollover feed when I hop into bed. But I decided to just leave him and see how he went. He didn't wake for a feed until 2.00am! I was really impressed. If that's how he sleeps with a semi-empty belly, then I'll skip his rollover feed every night hehe. 22 minutes later he was back asleep in his cot without his dummy and slept another 4 hours until 6am. After his feed he was wide awake though, so DH took him for a little play. They then came back to bed at 7am and Kyson slept again until 10.00am!!! I asked DH what he had drugged him with, lol! Suffice to say, I feel much more rested today, and fingers crossed we can repeat this in the future

Amy - Can't wait to see your zoo pics! Sounds like Phoebe was a little angel.

Vic - My mantra is "never wake a sleeping baby, lol! Unless you really have to of course. But I figure that if a baby is hungry then they will wake up themself. Don't stress chickadee, and try to enjoy the little extra "free" time

Bella - I'm finding DTD a little painful too. It's really weird though, because I can't work out exactly where it is that hurts. We've been using lots of lube, but there is still a bit of pain. We tried a couple of positions and some were better than others. We though (TMI!) doggy might be better, but it was the worst! In the end we found that having me on top was best, and it also gave me more control so I was able to adjust myself if something hurt. Wow, we are breaking down all the TMI barriers in this thread aren't we?

Bridg - I hope Leigh is feeling better now. I'm sure it was a lot of fun looking after 4 kids hehe. I'm so glad to hear that Zac got $1 from the tooth fairy. I almost choked when I heard that DH ex gave their son $20!!! He was only 6 at the time. What 6 year old needs $20?! Then when he lost his next tooth at our house we felt like we had to give him a note too, but we only gave him $10. But I left little glitter sparkles in a trail on his floor leading to his bed and pillow, and low-and-behold, he was much more excited about the "fairy dust" than the money. Surprise surprise, he is indeed a child

Kat - I hope little Ivy is feeling better!


My best friend had her baby this morning! It's a sweet little girl and her name is Elliotte Rose I'm so sad that I couldn't be at her birth. I flew to Sydney to be at the birth of her son, but wasn't able to be there this time because of Kyson. I'm sure a 3 month old crying isn't the most soothing noise during labour... Hehe. My bestie did great though! 4 hour labour!!!


Oh, and before I forget, I can come to both of our get-togethers

[briggsy's girl]

BG - I noticed on facebook that E had a good sleep last night. I hope that means you are feeling nice and rested today Sorry to hear that she woke up with an ouchy tummy though. It's so cute when they are fluffing in their sleep though isn't it? I wonder at what age do you stop laughing at them when they fart and burp and start telling them they are disgusting? Hehe.

we already tell E to live it up cos soon enough it will be "socially unacceptable"! she was sitting on a friends lap the other day, fluffing to her hearts content, and it was considered cute - not sure it would be the same in a few months or a year or so.... i also tell her not burping is an offence to mummy - cos in asia, a burp is a compliment to the chef - by nott burping shes' telling me it wasn't nice....

feeling a little down on the BF front today - my mum made the mistake of offhandedly blaming my milk for her crying - couldn't possibly be that she's growing and wanting comfort from mummy given she's had injections recently - has to be my milk. want to say how upset it made me but don't want to cause any issues - it really wasn't intended to upset me - but it did kwim?

[wysiwyg]

Thanks for the advice girls - I wasn't too worried until I saw the yellow wee - and your reassurance was great. After another long sleep CJ kindly put my mind at rest this morning by weeing on the change table again and wasn't yellow, I think yesterday she did a tiny poo at same time and that is what made it look yellow!!

I love my avatar! Oooh have to go hung out a load of washing this morning and the weather here is a bit wild and have just spotted stuff being blown off the line!

[Bella29]

Hi Ladies

Naomi-Sorry to hear about Bailey being upset! That must have been heart breaking! We haven't had Jemima go for that long yet, but when she has we have both been devistated! Strangly enough she has also been sent into fits of crying lately whilst being dressed. Really starts to get into a right pickle about it! DH was having more success than me and we worked out it was cos I push her hands thru from the bottom whereas he puts his fingers in and grabs her hands and pulls them thru. Anyway I was just about ready to leave her in the same clothes for the rest of her life this week because of the heartbreaking cries!

Kristy- Sorry your feeling down about Kysons sleeping habits. It may sound hollow coming from me cos J's sleeping really well at the moment but remember that they all come along in different area's at different times. We don't get a smile from J very often at the sight of our faces. She smiles at her mobile and the silly ballon next to her change table but very rarely at DH or I..... They all have their strengths and weaknesses..also try and remember it feels so much worse at the moment because your so sleep deprived!

BG-sorry to hear your also struggling with miss E's sleep.

Vic- I think CJ and J must be going on pretty similarly. J is sleeping really long stretches, now i just have to work out how to cope with the breast engorgement in the mornings! Also she slept 9 1/2hrs last night and I was worried about her rine output cos her nappy was not drenched like you would expect this morn and it was a little yello, but certainly not really dark which would be a worry and it had gone back to completely clear by the next nappy change(which was not long after) cos she scoffed her way thru two massive boobs!

AFM- Well thankyou all for your opinions on my DTD issue. I think having listened to you all that I am probably just dry due to hormones. We DTD about 8 days after Jemima was born cos of my c/s and I was able to and it was fine then but due to exhaustion we left it till a couple of weeks ago. it was so sore then that i thought i had thrush and so treated for that therefore we didn't DTD. had swabs with gp who says all clear so i think it maybe a case of having to have lots and lots of foreplay before next time if it isn't gonna be horrid. I wonder if it is the body's way of tightening things up down there and because of the c/s I don't actually need it and it has over done it now?

I went to the ABA morning tea yesterday and it was nice. Only thing that wasn't was being told not to talk about how well j's been sleeping cos it upset people who's babies weren't sleeping well. Now I understand that it must been annoying to hear it goes easy for some people when it is hard for yourself, but I found it really upsetting not being abloe to share how my little girl was doing just because it wasn't terrible Seriously. I stood there with a group of women one of whom was my sister who i had told earlier about j's sleep and got told not to tell other women my story as they wouldn't want to know. My response was that people are always saying that you have to tell positive birth stories or else women will only think that it is all terrible, and I thought that the same applied to sleeping. It's not that i was trying to be insensitive, cos i know even amoungst us Kristy is having a hard time of it and it is probably disheartening...... oh i don't know... maybe i am more ****ed that my sister and her friends thought that they needed to tell me to be sensitive and not rub it in other peoples noses rather than the idea it's self. On the other hand this post has taken me 4 hrs to write cos J just doesn't sleep thru the day and I find it hard to get anything done... typing one handed is hard and she has had 2 half hr naps in between... anyway that's my little whinge.

I booked flights to go to canberra today for the home birth rally. I hope it is gonna be really huge! They want to take away the rights of midwifes to practice independantly. And it limits womens choice in where to birth cos they are talking about 30,000 fines for woman and midwife if they practice homebirth. Anyway I think it is a really important cause and whether we believe in homebirth or not I believe it is about free choice for women and that's enough for me. We have been subsidised to go by the "friends of the birth center" so it's not costing much. I am still looking for cheaper flights to melb in Nov as am dead keen to come, they r just a little out of the price range i would like to pay ATM.

Enough from me

Happy baby vibes to all

Bells

[~ Mylitta ~]

BG - It's amazing how a small comment from someone can get us so down. I was talking to a mother the other day that refused to see her MCHN again because of something that was said. Apparently when the mum asked the nurse about her baby crying inconsolably in the evenings for an hour or so, the nurse responded with "the baby will stop crying when it trusts you". OMG! I couldn't believe that! Imagine if your nurse implied that your baby is crying because it doesn't trust you! So disgusting. Luckily my MCHN is quite good.

Rest assured that your boobies and your milk are perfectly fine. Actually, they are better than perfectly fine, they are absolutely amazing missy! Maybe remind your mum that E is a baby, and that babies cry!

[Bella29]

Kristy- good advice to BG, it's amazing isn't it what people can say to new mums and think is fine, I can't believe what the MHCN said to you friend!! Do they forget we r infinately hormonal tender creatures who really need encouragement at this time. I was pleased as punch yesterday cos one of the child health nurses at the morning tea said i seemed like a really relaxed natural mother... I didn't bother telling my sister but i told my DH when i got home.. His response was, i've been telling you that! It is just really important to hear positive things said to you.

On the subject to babies sleep by the way, from all the stories i hear now it doesn't seem to have anything to do with whether ur a "good" mum or not as to whether ur baby sleeps . So many people tell me that they had really different experiences between different children and it is just luck of the draw.

Bella

[~ Mylitta ~]

Bella - As far as I am concerned, I think that you should definitely be able to tell anyone all the good things that your baby is doing! You are a proud mummy and you have every right to be! I never get upset at other mummies saying how good their babies are sleeping etc... I may feel a little envy at times, but that doesn't take away from how happy I am about other peoples fortune. You are exactly right when you say that each baby develops at it's own speed, and while some babies are sleeping through the night, they may not be doing some of the things that the other babies are ding. I do love it when Kyson stares into my eyes and coos and smiles away, and I guess if that is at the expense of a little extra sleep, then I'll take it gladly

Oh, and I think it is wonderful that you are travelling all the way to Canberra for the rally!

[Snacks]

Just a quick one from me cause I am frantically cleaning today! Phoebe is actually asleep in her cot (probably cause she spent more hours awake than asleep last night ) so I'm trying to do as much as I can.
Krystie I always boast about when Phoebe sleeps well at night just cause she hardly ever does! LOL! It's my number one whinge point as a mummy, feeling tired a lot. But.... bwahahahahaha - you guys already know that because you're the ones I whinge to! I am a bit of an obsessor about sleep - I wish I could be as zen as Naomi. Hugs to you both.
BG: I'm gonna reiterate my thoughts on boobies that I shared with Bella a while back... Yours are FAB, baby. IKWYM about taking other peoples' throw-away comments to heart. Breastfeeding is SUCH a personal thing between you and your baby, hence why it hurts so much when it's suggested to you that your milk isn't exactly what your baby needs (either by someone else or by your breast-refusing, crying baby). I understand, but I so want to reassure you that your milk is PERFECT for Em.
Bella: Sorry that you were told to clam up about Jemima's sleep. That's not fair! What about the people that have successful breastfeeding stories? Should they keep it to themselves because others are struggling? No way. People need to know that if you're struggling with something, it doesn't mean you always will.

Okeys, she's awake. Will be back on tomorrow xx

[MummyNaomi]

Jacinta - nice car, our BFs have a silver sportage and its a very nice care, quite roomy!! We'd love get a new car (we have a Commodore and a Magna and really need to upgrade as they are getting a bit old), but with me on maternity leave its just not gonna happen this year

BG - LOL @ hearing farts through the monitor, we can hear them through ours too and it cracks me up, amazing how sensitive they are. DH was paying me out a few weeks ago and asked why I say 'Good Boy' when Bailey burps but call him a pig when he does it, LOL, so the next time he burped I said "Good Boy" (this was funnier IRL hahahahaha)

Krystie - so good to her you can make the meet ups. I cant wait. I wonder if it will be a little weird for us all IRL? , but I bet within a few minutes we'll be chatting away just like in here LOL. How exciting re your friends daughter, what a pretty name too! Glad my post helped even a little, I really do understand, especially at 2am in the morning when I am dragging myself out of a warm bed wishing Bailey would sleep through, Amy I dunno if I am as Zen as I may appear, maybe just more 'resigned' that this is how it is LOL

Vic - nice work with the washing, I have a few loads I need to get through tomorrow, we dont have a clothes line yet (have only been in our new house 18 months - we really need to get our act together) so I am using the dryer (and paying the price literally with the electricity bill!!)

Bella - yell it loud and proud with all of Jemima's achievements mate. Like Krystie I am envious too, but I would never begrudge another Mummy of proudly displaying how their baby/child is going. I also agree re spreading positive Mummy stories. So many people LOVE to tell you about all the 'bad' stuff that MAY happen, personally I think they need to have a good hard look at themselves and rejoice in their children some more and be more supportive. I love telling people my birth story as its so positive and it was such a wonderful experience for me, and I dont want first time Mums to worry, panic, or dread labour. Its unfortunate that so many people dwell on negatives rather than positives. I'm a bit of a glass half full kinda gal and I sometimes think thats why to others it appears that lots of good things happen to me, whereas I think its more my ability to turn most situations into positive things. Sheesh now I am sounding Zen, LOL Amy!!! Oh yeah and nice work re the Birth Rights Rally - you go sister!!

Amy - I dont actually think you whinge at all, you always sound happy and in control no matter whats happening, and seem to have the ability to through a bit of humour into any situation. However feel free to 'whinge' to us any time!!! Nice work re the cleaning, our house is WELL overdue for a good clean, hoping DH and I might put a few hours in on Sat morning to attack it as I haven't paid much attention in the last week, there are quite a few 'dust bunnies' floating about the place......... hahahaha

AFU - Dinner with the IL went really well tonight, and my dessert (a chocolate fondue) was fabulous if I may say so myself!! I got the MIL to rock Bailey to sleep so she got a few cuddles and made a bit of a fuss about how well she got him to sleep etc although at one point I wanted to slap her as she is a big fan of the whole "Oh they are so cruel to you" mantra - why do people always say this when your baby is crying? I took Bailey off to feed and when I bought him back I was making conversation and said how he had a massive feed and must of been hungry to which I got "Has your Mum been starving you all day, how cruel". SERIOUSLY!!! One day I might actually get a compliment about being a good Mum - enough of my ranting LOL

ooooooh, before I forget - Kat, hows Ivy?

Ciao for now
Naomi
x

[Snacks]

However feel free to 'whinge' to us any time!!!

Ok. Uuuuurrrrrrrghhh! Sooooo.... bloody... tiiiiiiiiiiired... *yaaaaaawn*

[*TripleJ*]

cant wait till the meet up in nov wish i could make the sept one but its just not financially possible
i got jamies teething necklace today didn't know amber was so light lol well hes not teething but hes got it on anyway hoping its not needed for a while