I read that Mbear was leaving too. I know I did post in that thread and you probably think it wasn't nice, but I will not give kudos to someone who thinks it is appropriate to speak to a person the way she did, when she actually did the same thing herself. I know the whole 'heat of the moment' thing happened and maybe in hindsight she would have acted differently, and yes, there were some terrible replies to her, but I think she will come back, not that she is around much anyway but still, once this blows over she will be fine. As for the mod thing, I don't think any of you appreciate how hard it is to deal with a situation like this. For one, it may happen on a day when there is limited Mods available to deal with it, and at all times mods give members the chance to self moderate - no point in jumping the gun and shutting a thread when in all likelyhood it will settle on it's own. You have no idea the catch22 that mods find themselves in - we would get blasted for not acting quick enough and closing a thread or removing posts and then when we do we got blasted again for taking away peoples freedom of speech often those accusations were by the same members! Sometimes we just couldn't win no matter what we did. And then there is having a thick enough skin to deal with the fallout from something happening - being called a 'pack of *****es' on FB by members is really tough to deal with, especially when those members are back nice as pie to your face but can't wait to stick the knives in your back at the first opportunity. It is one of the toughest gigs around and I think that fact is underappreciated. I also notice that this is the first time in this thread that Mod actions have been talked about, and I don't know if that was because when I was a Mod you felt like you couldn't say anything (which I hope wasn't the case, I thought we could talk about anything?) or if this is just because Mbear was in our belly group? Dunno, either way, things like this do happen. It's never nice when it does, but given time for hot heads to cool off, it usually ends up OK

And that's all I have to say about that LOL