i think we are mentioning only because the mood in BB lately has been rather icky. there has been a shift towards nastiness (that i have seen happen time to time and i know that it will shift again back to happiness!). so i guess it's just a culmination of many different threads/scenarios etc. but i also felt that in the Mbear thread it was posted in the punching room thread and as one poster pointed out some of the criticism of the OP was out of line regarding BBs policy. in this case i reckon it did take too long to shut-down the thread for cooling off. it was obvious that the OP was distressed and that the comments were out of line. But then again, i guess it is up to the OP (?) to flag that with the appropriate mod?