MD, that's what I reckon. The few times A has pooed his pants and I've taken them off, he gags like you wouldn't believe but it really does work to do it like that.

G, you just have to take them to the loo all the time when you're out when you first start doing it. Don't wait till they tell you because by then it will be too late, so just take them whenever you are within coo-ee of a toilet and put them on. We've only had 2 poos in the pants while we've been out and both times were truly accidents, otherwise he's really good with it.