Oh sorry they didnt say that but the way some of the others were going on I just felt that way, iykwim? They were so insistent that even though it puts you into a mild ketosis, it still gives the child toxins, even though they measure 0 on the sticks So I think I may have to drop to one shake a day maybe (even though I reckon it would be eating better than missing breakfast like I usually do) and see how I go. Dunno how many carbs I am supposed to have ....