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    Tinks thankyou so much, I have been beside myself with guilt so much these last few weeks because i have been unable to supply my DD with enough breast milk to satisfy her, I now have to FF thanks again i feel a bit better about it now

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    WYSIWYG - here's the other article :


    Top 10 Things Breastfeeding Advocates SHOULD Say
    by AMY on MAY 28, 2011

    Because of the overwhelming response to my post on The Top 10 Things Breastfeeding Advocates Should Stop Saying, here’s a companion post on the Top 10 Things Breastfeeding Advocates SHOULD Say.

    1. “You can do it!”
    I know, I know: isn’t this directly contradicting #1 from the things breastfeeding advocates should NOT say? Well, bear with me: while we shouldn’t assume every mom can breastfeed, being positive and encouraging with our fellow mamas is awesome. Support and positive affirmations can give a much-needed boost to an expecting mama’s confidence and that’s a great thing! We just need to be mindful that sometimes positive thoughts and will to succeed won’t enable a mom to nurse her baby.

    2. ”Use a cover if that’s your personal preference for NIP (Nursing In Public).”
    This is a very divisive issue in the “lactivist” community. On the one hand, using covers can send the message that breastfeeding is something that should be concealed. That adds stigma to nursing in public, no doubt, and can be a way to shame moms. Commitment to the idea that a nursing mom should not use a cover can’t interfere with actual breastfeeding, though. If a mom prefers to use a cover when she breastfeeds, she’s breastfeeding. Encouraging her no matter how she chooses to do it is really important.

    3. ”You can have a drink or two and you probably don’t have to ‘pump & dump.’”
    The facts on this one are clear: if a mom wants to have an alcoholic drink or two, that’s compatible with breastfeeding. If she’s not comfortable and doesn’t want to, that’s okay, too. Most of the time, it’s not necessary to “pump & dump,” either. Alcohol metabolizes out of breastmilk the same way it metabolizes out of blood, so as mom becomes sober, so does her milk. Milk expressed *while* mom is inebriated should be discarded and moms should pump if they’re missing nursing sessions while they’re away from baby.

    4. “You need to supplement? These are the options.”
    If a mom is saying she needs to supplement, giving her ALL the options are key; not just the ones we want her to use. That means discussing milk banks, milk sharing, maybe even wet-nursing, AND formula. Because as much as we want all moms to have access to breastmilk for their babies, not all of them will (or will want to). Accepting choices for supplementation that aren’t aligned with what we would personally do comes along with offering any advice in the first place. (And of course, if you suspect a mom might not need to supplement, you can always back into the conversation about her reasons for thinking she needs to — after you give her the info she asked for on supplementation.)

    5. “Breastfeeding is natural, but it’s not always easy.”
    Giving moms a realistic picture of the learning curve of breastfeeding is important. Because we’ve lost a generation of breastfeeding moms, we haven’t grown up seeing it. We don’t know how it works. So giving moms a realistic take on what it will be like is key, and it sets the expectation that they’ll need to prepare for breastfeeding (take a class, see a mom breastfeed in person, read a book, watch a movie -anything that prepares her to be successful at nursing her baby). She should know that there are Booby Traps out there before any of them are staring her in the face.

    6. “You don’t want to breastfeed? That’s okay.”
    I know some of you are cringing right now. But hear me out: meeting moms where they are means we’re going to meet a lot of them in that exact place. We live in a formula-dominated culture and a lot of moms expect to use it; they are uncomfortable with the idea of breastfeeding and they might not want to. (Ask me, I was one of them!) Bringing a mom who’s on the fence to a place where she actually wants to try breastfeeding means honestly accepting her thoughts and feelings on the subject – whatever they may be – and moving on from there.

    7. “You want to breastfeed? Here are some resources.”
    Encouragement will only take us so far and awesome resources need to pick up where that leaves off. When an expecting mom shares that she’s going to breastfeed, it’s good to have a few resources to offer: a great book or website on breastfeeding (like Best for Babes), the local La Leche League chapter info, etc-. Having the number of a local IBCLC is great, too!

    8. “ANY amount of breastfeeding is fantastic!”
    We aren’t doing ourselves any favors by setting the bar impossibly high. For some moms, exclusive breastfeeding is something that circumstances might not allow. In those instances, encouraging moms for the breastfeeding they are doing is key. Second-guessing them, judging them: these negative reactions are going to discourage mom. Could she be doing more to be exclusively nursing? Maybe, but tread lightly: answering “I breastfeed and supplement” with “Here’s how to breastfeed MORE!” leaves mom feeling like she’s not doing a good enough job. Instead, answering with encouragement and then giving her more info on how to nurse more if she wants it, is the way to go.

    9. “You used formula? That’s okay.”
    I can already see the fingers hitting the keyboard to tell me that’s most certainly not okay. Again, bear with me: If we can’t accept what a mom has already done, we’re not helping her. If she’s used formula, it’s done. Giving her the space to talk about that freely and without judgment is the biggest favor we can do for her. If a mom has used formula in the past and we slap her with a knee-jerk judgment at the word ‘formula,’ we close the door to any further conversation (like how she might breastfeed her next baby, if she’s interested in discussing it). We don’t necessarily have to condone it, but at least meeting sans judgment is a must.

    10. “I am proud that I breastfed my child.”
    Breastfeeding is an amazing thing! Mamas should own their successes and be proud of them. It’s an accomplishment and it’s okay to talk about it! Sharing our successes is one way to let moms who are on the fence know that this can be done. Like any other accomplishment, there are tactful and acceptable ways to brag on the wonderful thing we’ve done by breastfeeding. It’s a feather in the cap of motherhood; not a parenting trump card.


    I particularly like # 9, 8 & 4.

    My local ABA asked me to be the demonstration BFing mum at the education session - fully aware that I comp feed with formula! Now *that's* what I call acceptance

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    i cant believe that there is so much intollerance in this world that people actually say these things to poor mums!
    far our being a mum is hard enough without us knocking each other over the choices we believe are the best for our kids!!
    People have the right to think these things, but they do not have the right to say these things out loud to others. It undermines their choices .
    Although i dont agree or like some of the choices that people make with their kids, its their right and I thank goodness that we live in a world that we can have these choices. Lets just get over ourselves and get on with supporting each other!!!!

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    I don't get how the OP could be debateable. Kelly thats the silliest thing I think I've heard you say. Maybe you should read it again.

    With DD1 it honestly did not cross my mind that breastfeeding would be difficult. Everything I read told me it was natural & that everyone can do it. So when she was born & struggled through intense pain for 6 weeks I was really upset when I made the decision to formula feed her. After 6 weeks of my MCHN telling me everything looked fine & leaving it at that, I thought I had no choice.

    When DD2 came along things were ok. But when she was 4 weeks old I got thrush & gave up thinking that was the end of it. I alsso felt that after not feeding DD1 for long, that it would be unfair to give what she missed out on to DD2.

    When pregnant with DS I found out about lactation consultants & read up on BF problems through BB & was informed. I felt I could succeed if I really tried & I did. I fed him for 2 years. It took 6 weeks of the same intolerable pain I had with DD1, but I got through.

    I never considered anything else for DD3. It took 10 whole weeks of struggling for us to get past the problems. She was the first one I didn't have a tin of FF in the cupboard for. Lucky I didn't too, coz 10 weeks of struggling was really hard!

    To me, personally, FF would've been easier. To just put a bottle in my babies mouth, rather that have to curl my toes with tears in my eyes, at every feed would've been easier, but I knew in the long run I'd get there & BF would be easier.

    Most mothers have enough guilt without people adding to it, weather they mean to or not.

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    I'm amazed that any advocate of breastfeeding would say those things. Surely it's obvious to them that such retoric would immediately alienate rather than draw people to their cause.


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    Great post. I especially love #10. Plenty of mums DO NOT feel guilty for FF their baby. Why is that so hard for some other women to believe?

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    Many of them have recently been said in current threads.
    Yeah, they have!

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    I could write a novel to express how much I agree with that. Thanks for posting Tinks.

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    wyiswyg - I'd educated myself and thought I knew some of the hurdles which I was all mentally prepared for. What I wasn't prepared for was my particular hurdle which is that I have very large nipples and couldn't attach either of my DDs until about the seven week mark. And I do mean couldn't attach at all, not just occasionally. No-one talks about this and what to do. What they do talk about is how giving bottles can lead to breast refusal so meaning that by the time they could attach, I thought that I wouldn't be able to BF at all. Also not true.

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    Cool, I love it! I love that the article doesn't sound defensive or argumentative...it's just laying it out there, it's saying yes, we *know* x/y/z, shoving it down our throats isn't helpful! Really, really like it!

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    Cool, I love it! I love that the article doesn't sound defensive or argumentative...it's just laying it out there, it's saying yes, we *know* x/y/z, shoving it down our throats isn't helpful! Really, really like it!
    Exactly what I thought PZ!! I can't believe you're so close to meeting your baby girl! Woohoo!!

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    Great article, I have heard many if not most of these said to or about others. I also don't subscribe to the owning your feelings theory - if one possibly hormonal, likely exhausted woman gets told things like this often enough, even the strongest woman will lose it!

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    I felt guilty for way too long after, due to a number of reasons, being unable to BF DD. I wish I had seen this during that period of feeling like a failure, it's freaking awesome. As for the FF mums being lazy bit... FF is a huge PITA because you can't just whip your boob out and it's there. How many times I had to get up at 3am to make a bottle for DD and was being ****ed off at not being able to just whip my boob out and feed her, sucky.

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    Great article, I have heard many if not most of these said to or about others. I also don't subscribe to the owning your feelings theory - if one possibly hormonal, likely exhausted woman gets told things like this often enough, even the strongest woman will lose it!
    Couldn't agree more.

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    Interesting that it been posted in the formula section Do you think this may foster more of the us vs them attitude?
    Wouldn't it have been removed it was posted anywhere else?

    I don't think it's about Us v's Them at all. I'm a BF (who has also given formula top ups) but I can still see a lot of truths in this article.

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    Have you seriously heard people say and mean this?

    6. ”Moms who use formula don’t love/value their babies as much as moms who breastfeed.”
    Or this:

    5. “Formula-feeding moms are lazy.”
    And if you have read some of the breastfeeding threads, I, and many others have acknowledged that they BF cos they are disorganised, cheap and lazy (among other reasons). There are other benefits i see in bottle feeding a child, but it requires more organisation and effort but laziness?

    It is so tricky to attempt to give people information and support in breastfeeding these days. You are damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    I didn't find the OP as excellent as others, because i haven't heard breastfeeding advocates or others saying those statements. The ABA says Breast is normal, that breastfeeding is a learned skill... similar to the OP.

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    Even though I'm a Breastfeeder ( I did formular and breast for ds from 7 months though) I have had many of these things said to me in the early days of bfing my ds. I had so much trouble and so much pain. I'm a lucky one though and things got better.

    I breastfeeder a toddler, I tandem feed and I guess I advocate breastfeeding, but at the same time I know well and truly the difficulties and problems so many mums go through. My sister felt such pressure to continue feeding her ds that she ended up with anxiety. Their are so many different reasons a woman can't bf or simply choose not to. I really don't understand people who make such an issue out of it. We all love our children and we all do what we feel is best for them. It really is as simple as that.

    I do think mothers who ff are made to feel guilty and I don't think they should be. We carry enough guilt as mothers as it is.


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    Great post tinks :-D

    Responding as a breastfeeding mum :-

    Breastfeeding is soooo much easier and lazier :-D Thats why i did it for so long

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