Homebirth General Discussion #1

**Schmickers** · February 11th, 2010, 09:20 PM

Apparently, DW was talking to a representative from BD&M who has said that part of the problem is that they get all of their mail opened off-site and sorted at a massive government sorting centre. Apparently when the workers get mail that deviates from the normal mail that BD&M gets (like the inclusion of a pink form from a homebirth) they are simply discarding it.

Not sure how true this is.

**Karen van** · February 16th, 2010, 05:53 PM

HI everyone!

The National Day of Action - 18 Feb - is NATIONWIDE

Facebook has a page if you belong to this SNS or if you type MY BODY MY BABY MY RIGHT TO DECIDE protest in a search engine it will redirect you to relevant sites and pages.

We have one in Cairns - most are aimed at MPs offices - there are many in VIC that I can see and others in Perth as well and Brisbane! Tomorrow is banner designing day for me and my son Joss and I will be on the march on Thursday

I remember the struggle I had with Centrelink in particular with my first HB in 2005 and trying to get it recognised!! I was sooo-ooo tempted to take in the graphic birth photos in all their glory

Qld's BDM now recognises homebirth on its site and in its application forms so that is a small step I suppose.

Time to take up the good fight - can't mourn what you have lost when you didn't fight for it...

**Tegam** · February 16th, 2010, 06:39 PM

Time to take up the good fight - can't mourn what you have lost when you didn't fight for it...

Sadly i had an ectopic rupture last week and I just dont think that ill be able to make it. I so agree with what you are saying tho....something for me to think about

**Smoke Jaguar** · February 16th, 2010, 07:24 PM

Oh babe, I'm so sorry

I wanted to go, but it may well be a bit ambitious with my DS AND DD, cos DS is going through a non-listening phase and a long morning won't spell a great trip home (whether I train it or drive it). I did Canberra solo, don't have the luxury now

**LionsandBears** · March 1st, 2010, 03:00 PM

Just checking in to see how Bimboo's birthing went

**Tegam** · March 2nd, 2010, 12:53 PM

Just checking in to see how Bimboo's birthing went

:yeahthat:

**Tegam** · March 3rd, 2010, 06:03 AM

oh bimboo my heart screams for you and both your daughters. What a horrible mix of confusions you must be feeling and pressure you must feel under to appear happy. Is there anything I can do? want a visitor that you can be honest with?

**Smoke Jaguar** · March 3rd, 2010, 07:06 AM

Oh, babe, thanks for posting in here - we shared a journey, it's only fitting

Can't the 6 or so ambos help a doctor wield the pen for a signature??? How arrogant!
I don't have time for a proper post, but I'll be back

**Traveller** · March 3rd, 2010, 07:17 AM

Bimboo I am so terribly sorry for your loss. I don't really know what to say. I can imagine the comments you may get about at least you have one baby, but of course you want both your babies. How conflicted you must be trying to celebrate the joy or your living child whilst grieving the loss of your angel. I am thinking of you and both your girls.

T
xx

**LionsandBears** · March 3rd, 2010, 09:52 AM

Bimboo - I am so sorry for your loss

I can only imagine how devastated you and DH are.

I can see why people prefer to focus on the positives, but how is the death of one child any less just because you have another living one? If they weren't twins, maybe they'd understand more. I don't know, I can only think it must make everything so much harder.

Thinking of you.

**Schmickers** · March 3rd, 2010, 06:49 PM

Bimboo - my condolences on the death of your beautiful twin girl.

Try not to hold too much animosity towards the doctors, everyone - it isn't that they are refusing to sign the death certificate, it is that they are required to certify the cause of death, and if they don't know that cause, then they can't sign the certificate.

I hope that in time you can find a way to mourn Elliana and celebrate Ariyen's life.

**Smoke Jaguar** · March 3rd, 2010, 07:21 PM

I hope it's the way you see it, Schmickers, and not a way to punish a planned homebirth.
Still got wriggly girl on me, can't type properly.
The loss of your babe is just so profound. I have tried to fathom this before and it breaks me. You are made of strong stuff and that can seem to let others off the hook, instead of making the effort to acknowledge your loss. Others just wouldn't know what to say and would rather talk about car tyres.
You did a beautiful job with bringing them into the world and Ariyen will always feel Elliana

**Roryrory** · March 3rd, 2010, 08:18 PM

Bimboo I am very sorry that this happened to you and your family.

I feel really bad coming in here now to report this, bringing happy news after such a loss, but I am edging my way towards a homebirth via the Sunshine Hospital's scheme. If all goes well I will have a HB in October. I am surprised at how quickly I am considered to be accepted "in" the scheme (subject to a OB check, of course, at about 20 weeks

). The MW I spoke to today said I am considered very low risk for a HB so while nothing is certain I am pretty optimistic.

**Tegam** · March 8th, 2010, 06:29 PM

will light a candle for your angel girl Bimboo! Wil have you in my thoughts and heart friday, be brave but that doesnt mean that i expect you not to feel, i know that a part of you will go with your daughter on friday!
All my love, Milly!

**Smoke Jaguar** · March 9th, 2010, 07:57 PM

If you hear a crack, it's my heart breaking for your little family, along with the others - thinking of you still

**Tegam** · March 11th, 2010, 02:58 PM

How are you going Bimboo..... Tomorrow is looming.....I have my candle out ready for you. Its the same one i use for my angels so it is very special to me.!

Rory: Dont ever feel bad about sharing your good news, we all need to hear both sides. I am happy to hear that your are getting the care you want! Cant wait to hear more about your journey!

**Smoke Jaguar** · March 11th, 2010, 08:17 PM

Oh, man, I forgot to welcome you, Rors!!
Tomorrow's the day - I hope you feel our warming thoughts, Bimboo

Tegam - just noticed your loss

My mum had two ectopic pregnancies (after me and after my sister), and I always mean to ask her about her feelings about this - it gets mentioned, but I haven't thought to talk about it since my sister and I had kids, and then second pregnancies. I must do that.