Interesting though Bath. I'm wondering which vege I am - LOL! I do know what you mean though. I think also, we feel "entitled" to things so much in our society - if I want it now I should be able to have it now - whereas in the past, and in less affluent societies they didn't / don't feel that. And I guess being able to DTD whenever one wants is an extension of that mentality, so things like Billings for BC are not popular as it does require abstinence at certain times (I know there are other reasons for this unpopularity too, just making a point here). Historically I think abstinence at certain times would have been tolerated far better.