17 eggs but only 5 embies

**collo04** · February 26th, 2008, 02:52 PM

Hey everyone just need to let out some fear I have that none of our embies will make it to blastie stage. We have really been put through the ringer with heaps of trips to sydney in the past month and we live 3 hours away and I was so excited to have 17 eggs collected yesterday but today got told only 5 fertilized well. I asked if she thought they might make it to balstie stage and she said its hard to tell. Which I knew anyway. Im just scared that we wont even make to blastie stage because of poor embryo quality.... Can anything be done if it turns out we make crappy embryos or is it game over for trying to have a family of our very own????? I know I musnt give up hope these little ones must be fighters just like their parents!!!!

**neane** · February 26th, 2008, 03:05 PM

hey collo hang in there i am sure that you are and have been doing everything that is physically possible to make beautiful little embryo's i am

for you let me know how you go. neane

**tiggerlinda** · February 26th, 2008, 04:02 PM

Hi,

My FS works on the 50% making it to blastie stage ratio and he has been spot on so far.

Naf line but it only takes one to make a baby

**collo04** · February 26th, 2008, 04:12 PM

Thanks guys I guess im just stressing and expecting the worst I have to have faith that at least 1 will make it and then we can go from there.....

**briggsy's girl** · February 26th, 2008, 04:43 PM

hi hun

so sorry to hear you didn't get great fert results. just a couple of things to keep in mind - some of those eggs may not have been mature enough to fertilise - unfortunately, the eggs mature at different rates as you are stimmed so some won't be ready to fertilise. our clinic said a strike rate of 40-75% is normal for fertilisation of mature eggs...

for me, i got 22 eggs - 11 immature, 5 of the 11 mature eggs fertilised

you never know the quality of your embies til you grow them up - if you're concenrned about not making it to blastie, can you ask for a day 3 transfer instead?

and if you're in the very unfortunate situation of not making it to blast, remember EVERY cycle is a new cycle - there are other protocols that may help you to get better eggs - don't give up hope yet!

**collo04** · February 26th, 2008, 05:27 PM

Thanks BG Im pretty emotional abouit everything ATM Dad was put in hospital My Mum doesnt want to talk about IVF as she thinks its not natrual and thinks that there are some thing you shouldnt talk about. I love saying Vagina around her she goes red and changes the subject. I want to talk to DH but his attitude is " she'll be right mate" and plus his patience is pretty thin since hes on night shift and had a grand total of 10 hours sleep in 4 days. I just want my mum to care enough. I had egg pick up yesterday I feely crappy and all she can say "is it really worth it" I just want my mum to be a mum not an accquaintence .

**butterfly_warrior** · February 26th, 2008, 05:39 PM

Nik, :hugs: there are so many of us going through the struggles of IVF with the burden of an unsupportive family at the same time. It's never easy, but that makes it so much worse. The supports that other people can rely on just aren't there for us.

My heart aches for you right now. For the not-great fertilisation results, for the family that aren't there for you when you need them, and for the fact that I just don't have the words to make any of this better. I don't have the power to change the situation we are stuck in, but if I did, I would. In a heartbeat.

Hang in there... not much longer now.

BW

**Loula** · February 26th, 2008, 05:57 PM

Im am to sorry that you are feeling so distant and alone at the moment hun

I know this was not the result you were hoping for and i hope your news gets better.

Im here if you want to talk.

i wish i could help you more. sending you all the best thought for a successful TF in a few days

xx

**briggsy's girl** · February 26th, 2008, 06:33 PM

sounds like everything is crowding in on you a bit. as BW said, going through this without the support that so many take for granted just makes it all the harder - but you have something that a lot of people DON'T have - you have us - any time! we're here for questions, answers, cyber hugs - and more than anything - we're here just to be here - to offer you all the support you need!

I'm sure DH is there for you, it's just damn hard on them when they're tired, and trying to find that balance between support, and getting on top of the rat race and catching up on sleep (can you tell i speak from experience!) - i too HATE the "she'll be right" attitude - and after a number of lengthy discussions DH has admitted that he doesn't know what else to say - he can see i'm hurting, and wants to fix it - it's not a shrug off, it's just the only words that come to mind - i'm guessing your DH will be much the same!

hoping that things with your parents improve (well, for all of us really), that you get a great blastie result, and that transfer is smooth for you in a few days

ad always keep in the back of your mind - you don't need high quantity of embies - you only need one good quality one

hugs

BG

**collo04** · February 27th, 2008, 07:31 AM

You guys are the best I love knowing that I can turn to bellybelly in times of need it really does keep me from committing myself to the looney bin... Im going to keep posoitive until im told otherwise. Thanks for all your words of wisdom and support. Now for the painful waiting for the phone call.....

**Chez67** · February 27th, 2008, 03:37 PM

Hi collo

Just wanted to add my words of support for you. You shouldn't be too hard on yourself - you had a great number of eggs and that puts you ahead of the game to begin with... and as everyone else has said, it only takes one embie and you have 5 at the moment, so that is also great. I think too often we put high expectations on ourselves and feel that we have some control over the outcome of number and quality of eggs, when really we have very little. This is the part that frustrates me the most, and I am pretty sure I am not alone there. So I guess I just wanted to say, don't give up, the race is still running, and you are in my thoughts and prayers

that your little embies are growing strongly and are looking forward to transfer day as much as you are!

And about your mum, I completely understand. I gave up having a mother-daughter relationship with my mum many years ago. I have tried, unsuccessfully, many times and sometimes she will completely surprise me (in a good way) with some of the things she says and does, but there is absolutely no way in the world could I tell her about IVF. She just wouldn't understand and I would end up being lectured about how it is all my fault because I left it for so long blah blah blah... which wouldn't help me at all and would end up being another cause of stress just when I didn't need it. My suggestion would be to not mention the topic again... if she truly loved you as a daughter she should be there to support you with any health decisions you make, not to judge you. So instead WE are all HERE to support you in any way that we can even if it is via a computer. Thank god for BB and the lovely ladies otherwise I don't think I would have survived the last 12 months on my own!

And BG is right about your DH... mine says the same stuff, not because he doesn't care, but because men can see we are hurting and they want to fix it but they can't, which frustrates them too, so they have to believe that everything will be all right. It is the only way they can get through this.

Take care of yourself, rest up and I hope your Dad's better soon,
xxx

**collo04** · February 28th, 2008, 07:25 AM

Chez, Pitapata , BG. BW... Neane and Tigger Land

Thankyou oh so much for all your words of support Ive been out of action for a day cause it looks like dad is pretty sick he had to be revived yesterday and is now in high dependency. He had a better night last night though. Well all your prayers and thoughts have done my little embies good. Scientist phoned yesterday to say that they were all doing extremely well. She phoned again today to say the same thing. so tomorrow if all goes well Ill have a time for transfer. Again thankyou for helping me through my stress attacks I love you guys. And as for mum I had it out with her and she just said she doesnt know what to say and just wants to fix it for me but cant so instead she says nothing and waits for me talk about it. I told her that I need her to ask how I am and care so hopefully I got through to her who knows.......

**briggsy's girl** · February 28th, 2008, 11:27 AM

hoping that your dad continues to improve Nikki - it sucks when things go wrong like that all at once. good on you for having it out with your mum - and at least she's admitted that it's not out of malice, it's more out of ignorance (not meaning to offend, but it's the only word that would explain what i was thinking!!)

keep growing little embies!

**neane** · February 29th, 2008, 01:53 PM

Hey girl what great news about your embies

please let me know, I really hope your dad is on the mend and outta hossie soon. I'm glad you had a good talk with your mum too. At least she was a bit more receptive to how you were feeling and admitted as to where she stands with not being sure what to say. It's funny as soon as people hear that someone has started IVF it's like they get treated with cotton tipped gloves. This is why I love belly belly there are many people who understand how you are feeling and you can express yourself without any judgement. Anyhoo how's everything else going neane.

**kyles68** · February 29th, 2008, 04:48 PM

Hi Ladies

I have just posted a reply on a different forum but think this one is closer to my situation at the moment.

I am a regular reader of the bb forums but have only posted a couple of times.

Anyway, I had my first egg collection today and physically feeling fine - hardly any pain. However, out of the measly 3 follicles that showed on my ultrasound on Wed they were only able to collect one egg. When I was in recovery and they told me I was so upset and when they brought my DH in to see me I had a minor meltdown and just burst into tears saying "only one, only one".

I am so terrified waiting for the phone call tomorrow to say if my one little egg fertilised successfully

I just wanted to say that it makes me cry when I read your stories cos I know I am not the only one out there suffering my way through the Long Term TTC and AC

**belle333** · February 29th, 2008, 05:33 PM

Hi

I find this an amazing forum and a great place to retreat to. I think I come in here everyday now whether I post or not. Its my sane sactuary in a non-sane IVF world.

I had my first egg collection wednesday last week, it was terrifically painful, I cried a lot afterwards and think I would have a general next time. So many eggs, initially I was so happy (and sick - couldn't do fresh transfer - just starting to feel better today - hugely bloated - hopefully next week I can get back into my normal clothes and it doesn't help when people ask am I pregnant or pry repeatedly about why I had time off work).

I knew the numbers would drop, from day 3 to blast. I was so dissapointed but have to realise that we are lucky to have good blasts on ice.

So I'm looking foward to April - hopefully having transfer then!

I agree Kyles68 we are all in this together.

Good luck Collo04.

**collo04** · March 1st, 2008, 12:30 PM

Isnt it nice to know we arent all alone in this IVF journey. WEll out of the five embies we had looks like only 1 or 2 will be suitable for freezing. I had transfer today of an early blastocycst. I was feeling so ill leading up to it this week I was so bloated pains and constipated which I fixed yesterday with some metamucil Yeah!!!! So hopefully in 11days I might have some goodnews that will change our lives...

Kylie and Belle Goodluck with evertything and hope your BFP is just around the corner!!!!