Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - April/May 2009

[mellmell]

Well I'm starting to get very snakey at my IVF lab's scientist. She rang today with "good news"and told me that I had 3 embies at the 2 cell stage (day 2). Naturally I asked her "what do they look like, how are the doing?" to which she replied "well they are at the 2 cell stage". Now I'm no rocket scientist but that little snippett gives me absolutely NO more information! So I pressed "yes but how are they, do they look okay?" she responds "well I preferer them to be at 4 cells by now, but they are okay". SOOOO............just be damn honest and don't ring up saying "good news" when in fact your embies are not at the expected 4 cell stage. Also, I have googled a fair bit (I know not the best source of info) but just about everyone seems to be able to identify some features that suggest a day 2, 2 cell embie is going okay (even shaped and sized cells, small amount of fragmentation), but would she cough up any info? NO WAY! Just told me that I have a transfer tomorrow at 11:30. Now I am really PO'ed!!! I am paying a bloody lot of money for this little exercise and the least I expect in return is some honest and usefull feedback. I know they can't change the 5 eggs or the 3, 2 cell embies BUT be honest with me and give me some decent answers!! Anyway, I guess I will have my transfer tomorrow, but once those suckers are in Im gonna let her know Im not happy!! I was only having one put back but seeing as they are already behind the eight ball I will insist that the best 2 go back in. My FS is dead set against this, but seeing as I'm such a poor performer Im gonna put my foot down!
Sorry for the rant ladies..........am I out of line???

Mel..........

[JBM]

havn't read all posts but sending all good luck, i'm still a bit unwell but had acupuncture on thur and was very relaxing.
got til fri off work and school. good but i'll have to catch up on school i missed.
chat soon.

[Lionfish]

Mellmell - I know it seems frustrating to not know exactly what is happening but I guess she does not want to promise too much and there is ALOT that they do not know when it comes to IVF. Mine are at 2 cell stage as well which she said is slow, meaning that she would like them at 4 cells but this is still within normal limits. I'm at 11.50 so I will c u there. Good luck!

[Misty77]

Hi Mellmell- I understand your frustrations, sometimes it helps just to know all the info possible so you can prepare yourself. But I guess it is hard to predict sometimes and I assume different people respond differently (positively or negatively) to detailed info?

For me, I want to know everything even if it is just speculation! For my last cycle I had 7 fertilised and was told all were going really well and almost all were developing to blastocyst stage, so I was ecstatic assuming I would have some leftover for freezing. Imagine my surprise when I found out on ET day that the others were not good enough for freezing. It took me a while to comprehend that I would have to do the whole IVF procedure again so soon and doubled the impact of G&L when AF came. Good luck with your ET

Thanks BOC for your welcome and advice.

I have one more question for everyone, when on different meds (syneryl, puregon) do you become ridiculously tired and vague? I am finding myself constantly getting up to do something then forgetting what I was going to do, then sitting on the couch and falling easily into a deep sleep in the middle of the day - so not me. Dont think work appreciate it either!

[BOC]

Mell: That is so infuriating! I would definitely mention it, not in a nasty way but maybe just to remind them that whilst we understand this is just another day at the office for them, for every single patient this is the biggest event of their lives and maybe just a little extra patience and compassion wouldn't hurt. I hope you get thru hun

Misty: YES!!!! I was totally hopeless. It became the running family joke. I had to be reminded of things 3 times, fell asleep on the lounge religiously every night and constantly lost things. (One day after tearing the house apart searching I found my glasses in the detergent box in the laundry ???)

JBM: hope you're plodding along ok

Lionfish: to you and all the others with ET on tomoz

Crack-up of the day: I saw a really dirty car in the parking lot at the shops today. Scrawled on the back in the dirt was "I wish my girl was this dirty" classic

[barney]

hi girls hope your all doing ok ,just checking in on you all.

[Lovenhope]

Cass- All seems to be going in the right direction. That's great. GL with the assignment.

Nikki- another day closer. I hope today was a little easier on you.

Spring- glad I was on the right track, sniffing was a bit dodgy last night. But this morning was better. I think I'll get the hang of it. I have to.

Lionfish- GL with your ET.

Misty- Welcome. What side effects are you getting from the synarel? oh sorry, just read your next post. That is exactly how I'm feeling lately, but I thought it was from work, not synarel - I kinda feel like I'm a bit drunk, it's not so bad.

Boc- quick question- When did you start getting symptoms from synarel? I would have done 3 days after tonight's dose and so far I'm o.k. Do you think it could still hit me later?

Mell: I think you have every right to demand the info. Sometimes I think 'experts' expect us to be ignorant about what they are doing and what is happening to us. I know this is unrelated but I self-diagnosed both my ectopic pregnancies. What I mean is, give us some credit to be informed about what is going on. GL tomorrow again

AFM- If all the synarel is going to do to me is make me feel a little spaced out, then I can handle it, not sure if everyone around me can? Just hoping the synarel doesn't have any other nasty surprises waiting for me.

[Bengal]

Misty; I call it the syneral fog .. I am completly vague and sort of spaced out in a light way when I take it.

MellMell; I could of written your post a cycle or two ago, our clinic, doesn't even ring to let you know how your embryo's are going, if at all. That is one part of the cycle that is the hardest, "letting someone else look after something you want to succeed so badly. Another BB member used to get phone calls each day from her embriologist and she said, sometimes it is worse, b/c you get your hopes up, it is so common for the clinic not to elaborate. It must be a policy. Try and concentrate on preparing your body for transfer hun, it's completly out of your control :hugs: