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    Loula, Chin up. Don't worry about your friends, do they know what is happening with you? If so I hope they are understanding. It's hard when you don't feel like socialising. We spend so much of our lives trying to please others, that I think it's perfectly reasonable to look out for number 1 sometimes, if you don't want to catch up with friends, then don't!

    On the pizza front - OMG! I love goat's cheese and if there's anything on the menu with goat's cheese on it, I order it (as long as it's vege - I'm a vege - which makes low GI pretty hard!). Yes, I've been to Italy a few times. Know of some fantastic shoe shops in Milan! I agree that they make great pizza Another thing I do to my pizza is put balsamic vinegar (no oil, just the vinegar) on it - if I was stranded on a desert island, it's the luxury I'd take with me, anything can taste good doused in balsamic if you ask me! Anyway, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I love it. I've been adding it to my pizza for years, and I found out recently that vinegar actually lowers the carb content of food, so I've actually being making my pizza not only taste better, but be better for me!

    I'm having a me day today. It's my birthday on Monday so I'm off to the hairdressers soon, then to browse around the shops to see if I can find myself a nice summer dress - I don't like the unflattering fashion at the moment so this could prove to be rather a challenge!



    That's enough of my waffle! I've just got back from my personal torturer (trainer) and have excess energy!

    I hope everyone else is well and is managing to stay afloat with all that's going on.

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    Alex, you're making my mouth water with all that talk of balsamic!! lol I love it, but have never added it to my pizza....will have to give that a go. I make bruschetta regularly and add heaps to that and a tomato pasta sauce that I put a good amount in as well. Good to hear that it lowers the carb content of other food... Mmm think I might be making bruschetta for lunch today!

    Thank you everyone for your thoughts. I'm still doing ok. I'm on a mission at the moment. Have been to the gym this morning and will be trying to shed a couple of kilos before the next FET (which is hopefully only about 3-4 weeks away...but still no AF here so who knows?!).

    Jo, so sorry to hear about your BFN. Don't for a second think that your news is not as bad as mine, or that you shouldn't feel upset and disappointed. As LT TTC'ers we all want this so badly that whenever we don't get the outcome we want, we have every right to feel sad, disappointed, angry....whatever gets you through so that you can move on to the next step. Assisted conception is tough, and while there is likely to always be someone in a worse situation than our own, that doesn't mean we don't have the right to feel whatever it is we want to feel. We're all here for support if you need it.
    No idea if that made sense! lol I think my brain is dehydrated from the gym.

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    phew...... I rang the IVF nurses and they reassured me that leaving the lucrin out for a day is ok......it doesn't make it go off persay. The reason they say to refrigerate is that it preserves/extends the shelf life of it but because we use it all in a cycle anyway it is no biggie......I feel so much better, was stressing all night that I had stuffed my cycle up and it was all over before it had begun. Now I can get on with my wedding plans feeling somuch better!

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    Thats great news melbel - somethins these thing are a worry i know, OMG your wedding is just around the corner and on the same day as my BIL (so ill never forget.lol)GL with it all

    Well my ferbabies will be arriving soon.Yay. i forgot to mention they are both pugx and from a rescue, poor harvey was abandoned in a ally (not in good shape with two smaller pups who sadly died) and Rory was left behind when her owner moved house, they fornd the owner but she didnt want Rory. very sad.

    The only thing is im used to big dogs!our last dog (boxer) was hurt very badly in an accident and i had the job to decide to help him get to Heaven, took me a long time to get over, still havent really (he was 18mth and we had him since he was 5 weeks).

    But its good to know that im helping these two little one out with some loving, and a home. plus have small dogs means i get to have two! which i always wanted as i feel so bad when im at work.



    Forgot to add: BW - i know that metformin is a class C drug and there are pros and against for taking it when TTC and my Fs will have me come off it around 12 weeks but do you have any thoughts on this i have googled it and its a little mixed!!!

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    Hi my name is Shannon
    I havent posted for a while in here we've been doing the SAVE! SAVE! SAVE! thing to get ready for our first IVF/ICSI cycle

    And well we are finally ready day 3 today and trying to build up the courage to stick myself with the first needle!!

    Just thought i would see if anyone was in about the same spot, and if anyone else felt nauseaus and dizzy after taking synarel and also is it normal to be so crazy emotional (crying way too often!) and also scared!!

    Thanks - Let start the rollercoaster

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    Welcome back Shannon Perfectly normal to be emotional on IVF! I had quite a few teary days when I first started the synarel as well as some headaches and fatigue. I generally just felt a bit blah. But it does get better (well it did for me!) when you start the injections as it levels your hormones out.
    Good luck with your cycle, and the injections are not that bad really. My DH did mine (apart from one). I would probably prefer to do it myself, but I let him so that he was involved more and he felt like he had a "job" to do in this whole process! lol

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    well ladies Harvey the wonder dog is here and he is so so cute (DH said we should have given the lady the money for him there and then) we have him for a few days to decide. bit of a dodgy leg but hopefully it wont give him too much gip

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    Hi all,

    Just wanted to wish everyone a great weekend!

    Megan - thanks so much for what you said & of course you made sense.
    I think I sometimes do need to just let my emotions out more & your right if I want to cry I should just do it.
    I was starting to think last night that maybe we should have went straight to IVF but now I'm thinking no we need to give IUI a few goes first.
    It's just that I haven't heard of anyone getting pg with IUI on here.
    Hoping you are going ok.

    Lou - give your puppy a cuddle for me.

    Was just looking at my b/t levels b4 I O'd last month & it went:
    750
    1000
    1100
    & then 990 on the Friday.
    I was called in on the Saturday for IUI but I was under the impression that when you had the drop in levels that was O.
    Did they take me in a day late, I am taking this info off a "normal O cycle" I guess chlomid is not normal so maybe that's why it's different.
    Does anyone know?

    Jo - 27 (treated endo)
    Dh - 33
    TTC #1 since June 2005
    First chlomid / IUI cycle Jan 2007 - BFN
    this will be the year!

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    Jo, Cherie one of the moderators here on BB had success with IUI first go (after having already done a stim cycle) so there is definitely hope!!
    Sorry, don't know much about the levels you're asking about, but am sure someone else here will be able to help you.

    AF finally arrived. Naprogesic normally works wonders for me but only helped for about an hour, and I am now sitting in front of the air con with a hot water bottle on my belly for a bit of relief. Hope it's over soon.

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    It's been a long day out here... Shannon, I did just want to say that I had headaches, nausea and dizziness for a bit with the synarel, but it subsided very quickly when I made a huge effort to make sure I drank enough water. And after the first week, I haven't had another headache since.

    Lou, I was chatting with a friend about PCOS and metformin today, too. There is apparently some evidence to suggest that being on it through the first trimester helps reduce the chance of miscarriage. Although some doctors do suggest that you come off it abruptly as soon as you conceive. I think I'm leaning more towards the weaning off slowly throughout first trimester thing. I'm also thinking that with my insulin levels being as bad as they are, this is pretty much a drug that I need to be on full time, not just when TTC. Most of the research is fairly new, so not all doctors know a lot about it. One of the reasons it's important to do your own research.

    There's tomorrow, and then Monday - injection day! It's come so quickly... really not sure what I think!

    BW

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    BW, time is flying. I was on injections for 10 days, the trigger then EPU. It will be here before you know it.

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    I know, Megan! It's scary!

    We were at a friend's place this afternoon - DH was fixing a computer and helping to install a spa. My friend then started hassling her husband over how quickly the spa would be finished... "2 weeks? 3 weeks? 4 weeks? But we need to get it done quickly so that we can have BW and DH over for dinner and a spa before she's pregnant". I nearly died! This time next month, I could be pregnant! I hardly dare hope - I just can't imagine it, this pregnancy thing is something that happens to other people - most definitely not me! My friend went for 18 months, clomid and two miscarriages so she definitely understands, and her little boy is now 1 so there's proof that it can happen... but it still seems unreal.

    I'm sorry AF is being so nasty to you, Megan. Sounds like me when the breakthrough bleeding got bad - I was in front of the air con, firmly attached to a wheat bag and dosed on on large doses of naprosyn (one of the advantages of having arthritis, I always have high-strength doses on hand!), panadeine and still in too much pain to move. I hope it passes quickly.

    BW

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    BW- Looks like im eactly a day behind you as I start my injections on Tuesday.... Lets keep each other updated! Youre in Syd too,where are you doing IVF? ( I understand if you dont want to mention it)

    Also BW I can totally understand what you are saying about pregnancy happening to other people...I just keep thinking that im going to keep on struggling forever...and it will never happen to me!

    By the way, I purchased the book 'Swimming Upstream' because Ive heard so many positive things about it! and while Ive just flicked through it for about an hour...I felt a little depressed afterwards..it didnt uplift me????? Those quotes really got me down, especially the IVF chapter. But I do think it would be great for DH to read it!

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    Kim, I'm with Next Generation Fertility in Parramatta, for the simple reason that they don't charge extra for ICSI, which is something we need... that and the fact that Dr Knight was successful with some of my friends and comes highly recommended by my GP. I found with swimming upstream that the quotes were all rather depressing, but the chapter on what he's thinking (can't think exactly what it's called now) was very good. I think it's more about ways to cope and get through the whole process as a couple rather than feeling good about what's to come. I don't think there's any way to feel good about needing IVF - for me it's more of a relief that I'm finally actually doing something that has a real chance of working.

    BW

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    Hi Jo - just popping in quickly to say that IUI can work, even when it seems unlikely.

    Our IUI was a bit of a last minute thing - it was meant to be a FET cycle, but I was flying to Sydney a few days before we would have needed to do the ET, and I didn't want to chance using my precious embryos when the timing wasn't quite right. We decided to go ahead with the IUI, because I'd been taking the synarel and puregon and it seemed silly to have gone through all the side effects of the drugs for no good reason.

    I think our FS gave us a 5% chance of success with the IUI, because of DH's very low sperm count, but 5% was better than doing nothing, so we went ahead with it.

    Then AF showed up, I went to my next FS appt, had the blood tests to start my next FET cycle ... and got a phone call from the IVF nurse saying that I was pg. Could have knocked my socks off lol.

    I can't remember what my blood test levels were though - my FS was monitoring me through ultrasound, because it was supposed to be a FET cycle, so I can't remember my bt results sorry.

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    Hey Megan, I'm sorry to hear about the horrible AF - wish it was possible to say something to make you feel better.

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    Cherie - thanks for that, it does make me feel better knowing that IUI can work.
    What a wonderful surprise for you especially with af showing up, all the best for the rest of your pg!

    Jo -27 (treated endo)
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    First chlomid / IUI cycle Jan/Feb 2007 - BFN
    this will be the year!

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    Ok ladies ive decided to take the plunge and test at 12 dpo which i think with a day 2 tf last Monday will make it test day thursday!!OMG what am i doing!!!

    My besf friend came over last night for T and whe had bought a bottle of bubbles and i didnt want any. (i hant told her that we were doing a cycle) so of course she guessed! she said when did you have the implant i told her Monday she replyed oh so youve only got 1 week to go then? That went fast this time!!LOL i said well it would if you didnt know anything about it!

    Have no idea what to think of this cycle but im trying to stay as pos as poss, i must say Harvey is helping heaps.He is sooooooooooo cute.

    Ps cherie - what a wonderful story, just goes to show that even aafter AF yu really do still need a bt

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