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    Well a ruff day for me too but first



    Sonya - congrats hun they sound very stick to me GL, why is your TWW so short?

    Shannon hope you feel better soon hun, congrats on last jab? gl for EPU hoping there sticky for u too

    Rach - sorry to hear about AF

    BG - hope AF shows up soon for you

    Well now my day from hell and i cant type fast enough to get it all out.lol Had a really crap day (must be the full moon thing ah summer and BW?) the children were fereal today, and i get really stressed with babys crying( they NEVER cry in my care, cause i give them all they need, clean, feed, and very loved!) ask anyone at work the babys NEVER cry at work! but they did today, and one of the ladies i work with for the two children with additional needs is very lazy, and the other is very messy and LOULD, all of which i didnt want in my TWW, im feeling the stress of it all. Now they both know that im in the TWW as i dont like to lift the older children to do there nappies, well i did today, which caused me more stress so i told them do you think that helped NO,

    Then as some of you know i blew a tyer on my car so DH took it today to get new tyers on all wheels as they were that bad so i borrowed MIL car as she is in Qeensland for a week and when i finished work TWO yes thats TWO people crashed into the bloody car, a side each!!!!!!!now its up to me to get it fixed, i will say that both people left there details so i did thank them for that.

    LOL one was a current parent and the other was a family starting next week!!!

    Gotta love it and thanks for the BB vibes to make them perky BW but i think there on their way south!

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    they are doing my BT two weeks from EPU i think coz i have done a blast transfer...

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    Lucky you and all the very best thay are making me wait two weeks from TF of one blastie maybe that because it FET!GL and praying for you xx

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    it so amazing. im already looking at my tummy saying are you holding on bubby? please stick to mummy!!! i know i will be absolutely devastated if it doesnt work, but thats the ups and downs of ivf huh!

    i now have another dilemma. as i am already so blessed to have two children DH and i are only aiming for one more. so if this cycle works we still have four snowbubs in the freezer. DH is very attached to them and doesnt know what to do. he gets quite protective and worked up when he says to people that they are his children and others who dont understand say they are 'just' embryos, dont worry about them.

    if we are lucky enough to have success this cycle, he doesnt know what he wants to do with his babies on ice. how long are they frozen for? is it 10 years? if so i said just leave them frozen and cross that bridge in a few years.

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    Hi People,
    Lou, so sorry for such a $H!T day you poor thing, and BW too, wow ! Hope tomorrow is a better one for everyone. I had my SIL turn up for a few hours just when I wanted to sleep and then a dear friend who knows nothing of our struggle also came for hours. I kept saying "would you like some lunch?" and she said "no, I'll get going in a minute" but that went on for ages and I was desperate for something to eat and was getting to the spew stage!! Luckily I didnt...
    Rach, so sorry AF is on her way. Hope you and DH dont take it too hard.
    BG, hope she turns up soon!!! Dont want you having to take double doses of nasty stuff.
    Shannon, GL for EPU. hope everything goes well & you arent too sore.
    Sonya, well done on your frosties, you clever girl! That is wonderful news but I do understand about your dilema with remainders... I would just sit on them for a while too, you never know, you may want a dozen!!!! It is amazing isnt it, that from the moment you know they have fertilized you begin to think of them as little people and once you know you have them inside you it is amazing, just as though you found out you are pg!!! I went around all the time thinking of them and sending them my love and positive energy to hang on. You get really attached. People just dont understand I guess if they have never thought about that stage of things before... People do say the stupidest things but I guess mostly just out of ignorance.
    Hope everything continues to go fab for you
    everyone else....
    Sazz

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    Wow it's been busy in here. A whole thread and a bit has gone by without me...DAmn.
    I have been hiding out a bit and trying to sort out my feelings about where we go from here having not the finances to go for another PGD cycle. I am so not a patient person...when I want something I want it NOW!!!

    Woohoo you goo Sazz... I am so happy for you fingers crossed that everything sticks.

    Sonya can I have some of that superglue of yours...sounds like RAd stuff!!

    Everyone else and praying we all out of here soon.

    Anyways I finally bit the bullet and we went back to see the fertility specialist today and I am feeling a lot more positive about it all.

    He explained that even though we only had two embryos out of the 12 that fertilised pass the testing that it didnt mean we would get such bad results every time. Apparently they would expect about 40% to pass on average but the average may not be just one cycle so it is quite possible that the pendulum may swing in our favour on the next cycle giving us more good embies to balance out the curve If you get what I mean. BW you're a maths teacher you might be able to explain it better. He said he will only start to worry if on the next cycle we still have bad results. Then he said that may indicate that either the eggs or the sperm may need to be ditched in favour of a donor.

    Because it will be quite a while before we can save up for another cycle We have decided to do what we can to be proactive and get everything checked out so I am booked in next for a lap and hysterocscopy to check and see if there is any reason that can be seen for the implantation failure and miscarriages. Because we have PHI and this is a covered procedure we thought why not cover all our bases. It is good too because he is a man who likes to cut out any endo as opposed to diathermy so if anything is found he will fix it all up on the spot. I also asked about more aggressive progesterone therapy next time and he is very open to that which is great as I have a gut feeling this may be part of the issue. I tend to spot for quite a few days before getting Af so I dunno...again trying to cover my bases.

    Anyways now we just have to save up another $5000 and start again...hmmm...what can I sell on ebay...anyone one want some lightly used mens golf clubs...hehe!!!! ssshhh don't tell Geoff!!

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    Best way I can explain chances and probabilities and stuff...

    If you were to sit down and toss a coin 100 times, you'd get mighty bored, but you would expect to see heads 50 times and tails 50 times because it's an equal chance of both. BUT, there's nothing stopping that coin landing heads all 100 times. Of course, it's extremely unlikely that it would happen.

    The number is just way too big for my calculator to cope with, but if we reduce it to only ten coin tosses, the probability that it lands heads every single time is slightly less than 1 in 1000.

    Probability hinges on what we expect to see happen, but just because we expect to see it doesn't mean it must happen, and if it never happens, it doesn't make the probability wrong.

    As for "average", it's a term that endures much hatred from maths teachers! "Average" can mean so many different things. There's the average that we all know (mean) where you add up everything and then divide by how many there were, there's the average (mode)that is interested in what occurs the most, the average (median) that is interested in what the middle of the whole thing is... And there's so many different ways to explain why a particular result can be so different from the "average" but still mean things aren't irretrievably bad.

    Here endeth this morning's maths lesson. Never give me an excuse to talk about maths, I'll go on for ages! And on a forum, there's nobody to stop me! I don't have to watch the eyes glazing over! Sorry, I'm very passionate about what I teach - I love numbers!

    I just don't have time to go into it more of an explanation this morning. Seems to me the probability stuff is more relevant to what Mel was talking about, but I can go further when I get home tonight... which will be quite late as I have acupuncture this evening. Stinking horrible headaches all last night and still this morning, and I'm being stupid enough to still go in because of all the crap that's gone on. Temp still up this morning, so I'm pretty happy that I have actually ovulated. Yay me! Which reminds me... must get chart printed...

    Have a great day everyone, and I promise not to bore you with maths too often!

    BW

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    Excuse the double post! But the link for the embryo pics is up! I may have just not noticed it until now, but it's there! http://bellybelly.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=36484 For those who haven't seen it yet!

    BW

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    Good Morning

    Lovely Maths lesson BW (i needed a teacher like you! )

    Melbel- Fantastic to see you popping back in again and really glad to hear things are looking more promising.. (Ebay is great huh!)

    Sonys - Congrats on transfer!

    Well my aunty gig went well last night coped great no emotional outbursts just lots of love for my new neice. Which was great because i was so panicked Hyde was going to rear his ugly head! Also DH wasn't there because he is sick so it was just me and the inlaws... apparently (warning lots of sarcasm coming up).... holding a new born can help you fall pregnant ... thanks so much for the pearls of wisdom MIL!

    Well just to clear up all the confusion no EPU for me with are doign a frozen so just 2 more jabs and then transfer of my two blastys on Monday! yay 4 More sleeps!!


    S

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    man, it's gonna be hard to keep up with this thread!! Subbing on so i can get email updates and stay up to date with everyone!!! But i have no idea if i'll be able to contribute as i can only get on once a week or so (and that's a whole life-time of chat to read up on !! LOL!)

    Anyways, i'm due for bloods on Monday to see if we can do a natural FET this month or not. Checking on my hormone levels etc. Not sure if we'll get a green light but i'm hoping! We go through SIVF Newcastle.

    We are not telling anyone IRL. I prefer to get through the stress of the cycle without spectators wondering if we are pregnant or not. So it will be nice to chat to you all (if i can keep up!!!!)

    Anyways, i'm off to read up on the events so far in May 2 pages and it's only the 3rd!!!!

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    Hello all,

    I am very new to this site. I just had a EPU last week, where they took out 31 eggs however I ended up with quite bad OHSS, so they wont let me do a FET for another 2 -3 months, I am so disappointed. On the bright side though I have 17 embryos, we also had ICSI not IVF. I would like to know of any one else's experience with OHSS and ICSI.

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    Jane, just want to say a quick welcome, and let you know that you are not alone. I did IVF+ICSI and also ended up with OHSS and no transfer. Currently waiting for my next cycle to start so we can do a FET.

    At work now, so no time, but wanted to let you know that you are not alone.

    BW

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    Hi everyone,
    Lovely Maths lesson BW, I needed a teacher like you when I was in year 12 (I failed maths). I also went and looked at the pictures your DH found, and they are great!

    Well, the big news for me is I got the phone call from the clinic today and.... drum roll....


    It is a positive... I am preggers!!!!!
    Yes people, after 10 loooong years of trying we have finally achieved our very first official I am soooo happy that I can stop worrying about that bit and concentrate on worrying about all the other stuff now lol DH is sooo cute, he bought me flowers and can talk of nothing else.
    I can only thank you all for your support in here over the last months and hope like mad that everything continues to go well. And of course, pray that you all follow the trend really soon!!!!

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    Congrat again Sazz - i'm so glad you were able to get your official confirmation early!

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    Congrats again Sazz thats the best news you and your DH must be soooo happy right now.

    Welcome Jane look forward to chatting with you

    Michelle will keep everything crossed for Monday

    Shannon YAY for transfer on Monday

    Sonya sending you truckloads of your DH is so cute

    Lou hope you had a better day today hun

    BW where were you when I was failing maths

    BG how are you travelling? Any sign of AF yet?

    Hi to everyone else hope you all had a good day.
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    CONGRATS SAZZA!!!!!

    well done honey, so so so happy for you.

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    Congrats Sazz - how wonderful to hear it officially

    It is wonderful that your DH is being really cute about it too

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    Congrats Sazz - i just new it well done hun

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