thread: Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception ~ December 2006

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  1. #1
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    Feb 2006
    AUSTRALIA
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    I guess im already feeling like I dont belong in here, you have all gone through so much and Im just starting out with all these tests.

    Well we had our appointment and the GP was lovely. She gave us some options she could start some testing or give us a referral but there is a long waiting list for the FS. She did also tell us any tests she does will be repeated by the FS as thats their protocol. Decided on the spot to get something done now as she did point out that it could be just that small (I hope so). So yesterday she gave me an internal, found my cervix & prodded around! I had a swab & pap smear. Bloods to be done this week and an internal U/S next week. She wrote in the sheet- primary infertility, with "? polycystic ovaries" Also it got DH butt into gear and his results have all come. back fine.

  2. #2
    dream bub Guest

    HI to all - hope everyone is well.....

    Lt Panda - Good luck as you start on this crazy journey. Hope its a short stay.

    Loula - Happy to hear from you again. Glad to hear youve taken a break and plan more. DH & I are big travellers and have managed to still take 6 OS trips whilst we have been on IVF (3ish yrs). Every time we plan a trip I think to myself "if I fall prganant and cant go - who cares! AT least I will have achieved my other dream of falling pregnant." (Just make sure your travel insurance covers it so you dont lost your money.)

    Holly - Great to hear you got such positive outcome from your sugery. I hope that you have great success. I am also using herbs & acupuncture. Are you taking that relaly foul smelling medicine. It smells like someone mixed cigarette butts with fertiliser!! But I know its doing me good, in fact I always feel a bit heady (like I am tipsy) just after I take it. Also no worries on the Safety net - please to hear you were already under control.

    Summer - Please dont feel out of place, you are most welcome here - and clearly you have a reason to be here in the first place, although I wish this wasnt the case - for all of us

    On the weight gain thing - I am normally quite slim around 58 kg/172 cm, but I gain up to 5 kg every cycle, & its really obvious. In fact I am sure most people think I am already preg and just not saying. It usually falls off again when AF arrives, but perhaps not all of it. Of course like said from others its mostly fluid.

    I am only day 2 of Lucrin (I cant use Synarel) and cant wait to get to the FSH injections, bringing me one step closer to my dream. Bring it on....

  3. #3
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    Dec 2005
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    I guess I finally need to join in here.

    We've been TTC for just over a year, but only three months in we discovered that I have PCOS, and then a few months after that we discovered that my DH has his own share of problems with his SA showing a triple defect, which all stems from a varicocele. We saw a FS for the first time in December, and just had our second appointment today, and the news was not good. I had spectacularly bad results from the glucose tolerance test, and the hormone tests that were done are much worse than what showed originally in March. We'll be commencing IVF with ICSI shortly. Meanwhile, I have to go back on the pill (it was that or provera, which did not agree with me last time), and I just can't get my head to adjust to going back on the pill as the first step here - it seems really, really strange to be taking the pill when you want nothing more than to fall pregnant at last.

    I hope to get to know you all better soon.

    BW

  4. #4
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    Dec 2006
    Melb
    312

    Morning

    Iris, to answer your question, they did test me for PCO's. I had to do a blood test and ultrasound.

    I have the same symptoms as someone with PCO but it has not been confirmed, can they miss this on tests.

    butterfly_warrior - I too had a glucose test and my sugar level dropped really low, I also do not ovulate, are these the reasons that you were told you have PCO.

    I also find that when I do the gonalF injections, I am able to control my weight better. I guess the hormones help.

    Anyways, we all seem to be on the same road, I just hope it will be ashort one.

    Take care.

  5. #5
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    Dec 2005
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    Ltl Panda, I do have polycystic ovaries which was seen only on an internal ultrasound. That alone wasn't enough, though. My testosterone levels are elevated, my FSH/LH ratio is all whacked out, and then there's the insulin resistance that showed up with the GTT, it's really only when all that is put together that they can confirm PCOS. You don't need to have PCO to have PCOS, it's the insulin resistance that causes it. How did your insulin levels go during your GTT? That was the key to figuring out that I'm insulin resistant.

    I too hope that it is a short path... but my DH is really quite confused by the whole process and is somewhat reluctant to get started on it all. I gave him the swimming upstream book today, hopefully that will help him cope a little better.

    BW

  6. #6
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    Dec 2006
    Melb
    312

    Hi butterfly_warrior
    All i know that it dropped pretty low. The thing is, I have had many ultrasounds but only one tested me for Insulin resistance, but he did not requast an ultrasound. I might have to go back to my gyno and get him to test me again.
    They checked out my hormones and they are all supper low, like you can realistically say nothing. They made no mention of elevated testosterone levels. I guess that is a pretty strong indicator if I was to have PCOS.

    Thanks heaps chick

    To all others, hope everyone is doing ok.

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Jul 2006
    In The Land Of Wonderful...
    1,751

    Hi Ladies!

    Just wanted to pop in & say Hi!
    Welcome, again to everyone new, I hope you are starting to feel at home here! (Don't get too comfy though, we don't want any of us here for too long! )

    I just wanted to send out some thoughts and hugs to Butterfly Warrior:hugs:
    I've just been catching up on some of the posts, and you just sound so stressed and down... to reach IVF after such a long time of trying other things is so hard to deal with initially.
    I remember feeling like you do now, and with all of your problems with work on top of everything I just want to say that you're doing great keeping it together!
    I am a teacher, too but in a different situation to you - I teach piano privately, so I'm only dealing one on one with students, but I do have my fair share of 'trying' parents!!!!!
    I don't know how your clinic works, but definately look into how early you can make appointments once you start IVF - we did all of ours first thing in the mornings, because DH wanted to be at every appointment, and has changed jobs so much during the last 4 yrs (real estate, gotta love it) he wasn't in a position to ask for large amounts of time off work.
    I'm not sure whats best for you, but I did tell most of the parents of my students... not so much specifically about the IVF, but just that I was having a lot of medical treatment done, and that seemed to allow everyone to be understanding, but at the same time to back off a little because they weren't sure of exactly what we were having done. (It also stopped the way too constant question of 'When are you going to give Luke a baby brother or sister?')
    I realise teaching in a school full of gossipy teachers is a lot different to my situation, but I definately had my share of those parents like that as well!
    The only time I really had to take off was the day for EPU and transfer... I just left it till the day and got DH to call my students that morning to say I wasn't feeling well.
    I know this is such a long post, but I was also reading through everything else you are dealing with involving your body being all over the place... just wondering if you have had any alternative treatment to help? (Acupuncture, chinese herbs, etc?)
    I only ask because I was all over the place, too and after having the natural therapies on top, it fixed all of this.
    The acupuncture worked miracles for my mood swings, and my ability to deal with children, which is one of your major concerns.
    If you tell the acupuncturist this is a concern for you, they will work on specific points for calmness and control. I don't think I would have got through it without it!!!!!!
    Anyway, I'd better stop writing before I end up with a short novel here!!!
    Hope any of that helps you xxxx
    Holly xxx

  8. #8
    dream bub Guest

    Hi girls -

    Quick Hi to all and just wanted to say to Butterfly warrior not to be concerned about needing to take the pill, Ive been on IVF for some time now and have been asked to take the pill for periods of 8 weeks in between IVF cycles. In fact i am taking it now. You will probably find they will give you a low dose one. It generally just gives your reprodcutive organs a rest - particuarly from the things that cause the PCOS to get slowly worse each month. Apparenlty the old wives tale of the pill staying in your system for months meaning its hard to fall pregnant is a load of rubbish. So dont worrry about it - its a common part of IVF protocol.