Dreamrise, I asked for the numbers. If you're switching to an antagonist protocol (which it sounds like if there's no synarel) I found I responded much more quickly on that protocol without increasing my dose. It was also the cycle that gave us the most eggs ever (although, that was only 7 instead of 5/6 - my ovaries are stubborn). As for stress affecting the outcome, this cycle we were burgled, my Dad had a cancer scare and we had the EDD from our early m/c (today). It's the most stressed I've ever been (was completely overwhelmed to be honest and just about at the point of refusing to get out of bed) and it's our first IVF BFP. Just do all the things you've been told and you'll give yourself the best chance you can.
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Gosh I haven't been on BB for 3 days and so much has happened!!
Juniper - your BFP is absolutely fantastic. I"m so thrilled for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dreamrise - Sorry about your chemical. I think the jury is out about the impact of stress. I've seen so many people on BB stressed but still get a BFP. I know the experience of people not asking you about TTC or IVF. My friends all know I'm TTC and now on IVF. I find that only the ones who have had a TTC journey themselves ask me about where I'm up to. I think the other just don't know what questions to ask or understand the emotions involved.
Trueblue - Hope this is the only cycle you need.
Inshell - nice to hear from you, sorry you've ended up here as well. You've had an amazing result so far and I hope it ends in a BFP.
Minime - I will be happy if I get 7 eggs. I read on an American website that 7 eggs is a good minimum number. for a great fert. rate.
Yogi - I think I will be cycling with you as well. I'm on the down reg but will be starting the injections (if all goes well) on Thursday.
Lairdoz - it must be both frustrating and a relief to hear that it is just a numbers game for you. It must be tough to have several BFNs and to muster the strength to come back for yet another cycle.
Worrywart - welcome. I can't believe they messed your paperwork up as well. I would be doing the same if my kitty was beaten up.
Loops - and your paperwork messed up too, why do we pay so much money for this kind of service. I hope you sell your tractor really soon. I've heard so many stories of people who've fallen pregnant after doing IVF so hoping for a natural BFP isn't insane....hopefully you won't need the next IVF cycle and the tractor money can go to the nursery.
Hi to anyone else I have missed. I tried to keep up but there's been so much action since I was here 3 days ago. I hope we can all keep adding to the amazing string of BFPs in the coming week and months.
AFM: Went away for the weekend with a group of friends, some with children and other without. I felt really lonely because I didn't fit the parent set but didn't fit the DINK set either. It was like I had glass wall between me and my friends with kids...like I'm supposed to be doing those child activities but I'm not. Anyhow just a little whinge. It was beautiful place in the country and I was very lucky to go away and have amazing friends.
Cycle-wise--I'm now off the pill and having a withdrawal bleed. Still on the syneral and beginning to like the taste (crazy I know). The bottle fell over a few times in my handbag so I hope that's okay, it says it's supposed to stay upright. My scan is booked for Thursday and if that all goes well I start the injections then.
Loops - Thanks for the advice, kinda getting used to the crinone. Good luck selling your tractor, hopefully you won't need to do another cycle!
Inshelligent - wow, 9 frozen! Hopefully you won't need them this time, good luck for your blood test tomorrow!
Dreamrise - sorry about your results. I have heard that stress can play a part, but it just sucks, because how are you not supposed to stress?!?
Lisa B - Hopefully you'll fit in with your parent friends really soon. I must say, after 4 months of being on synarel I got used to the taste, but I can't say I like it! Don't worry too much if it falls over. I think just as long as it has been sitting upright for an hour or so before you take it. This way it distributes evenly I think.
AFM - all 7 eggs fertilised and have started to divide. My DH has decided the reason for this is that he is so perfect... go figure! Still playing the waiting game... Transfer will be Wednesday all going well.
Good luck to everyone in your various stages of TTC. Try not to stress too much!! (I wish I could take my own advice!)
MINIME: Goodluck for wedneday fx'd for you.
This whole tww is going fast but slow at the asame time it's already almost monday time for the first post inseminatiion jab but on the other hand the 10th feels like a million years away
Lairdoz, Mini Me, Tru Blue, Worrywart, Loops & Yogi Bear - thanks so much for your kind words. The support in here is always amazing. These things certainly make you stronger, although it doesn't feel it at the time....
Juniper - great news, congrats and fingers crossed for the next chapter
Loops - so good to hear from you. I have abstained from BB whilst grieving and recovering, but kept you in my thoughts. I'm sure you'll have no probs selling that tractor. We are about to go through our garage to see what else we can sell to bankroll this next IVF stim. We'll be well and truly dry after that
Inshell - you pulled good numbers honey. Well done.
Dreamrise - sorry about your results. It's impossible not to stress to some degree. So hard to interpret what people say to you (or don't say to you) about what you are going through. I've heard some hurtful stuff, but I have to believe that people feel awkward about this topic and don't know what to say.
Lisa B - you like the taste of Synarel? That must be a world first. I suck water up my nostrils about 5mins before taking it, which seems to help the pain, and then suck a piece of orange straight after to get rid of the taste. I wouldn't worry about that bad boy falling over in your bag a few times.
MiniMe - good luck for your transfer girlfriend. We'll all be praying for you.
AFM - went to yet another naturopath. This one is a qualified pathologist and spent an hour reading copies of all my blood tests and did another one herself whilst I was there. She said I have a history of extremely low progesterone and there is no way I would carry a pregnancy with my levels. For the 3 transfers I've had, my IVF Dr never gave me the pessaries to use??? Why not? I looked up my levels and they are way below, as in between 1 - 6. It can't get much lower than that surely??? I don't know what to think now..........
Hi Loops.mum is doing ok thanks.she has started chemo again.we had got the stagin of her cancer which had been stage 3c but she has been downstaged since her mastectomy.although her drs arent saying whether they think she will beat the cancer or not.so still a long road to go yet.she finally started driving again last week after about 3 months with everything that had gone on with her feet.
good luck to those testing this week or having procedures and hugs to those that havent had their bfp yet.
AFM- Im kinda confused at the moment(TMI warning).for most of the last year i have had on average about a 8 week cycle.i think last af arrived around may 3rd.anyway when i ducked to loo saturday arvo i had some light bleeding but only when i wiped,but thought hmmm ok maybe af trying to come on a normal range cycle and expected to wake up with af yesterday.nope same thing all day yesterday just light bleeding when i went to loo.i even put on a pad to be on safe side and there hasnt even really been anything on it.so i really dont know if its af being stupid or whats going on.its just frustrating
trubabe, have you tested? On Wednesday (14dpo) I had the same thing - red blood when I wiped, too much to call spotting - so put on a pad. I had more the next morning, but it was brown that time. Next day was my beta. If it's not that would it be worth a chat with your FS?
Mindhugs, I'd be pretty p-ed off about them not doing anything to boost your progesterone if it was that low. Will you be asking your FS about it? Will the naturopath be able to help with it?
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juniper no i havent tested.mine hasnt changed colour.its just a red/pink.no heavier or lighter.i doubt that im preg so i havent bothered testing.dont really feel any different either.will see what happens over next couple days and then maybe test
I feel like I am interrupting everyone's conversation here but wanted to ask if I could join this thread. I am freaking out because I am starting out on a new frozen cycle today (af arrived yesterday) and just hope that I'm strong enough emotionally. My last frozen cycle I got BFP!!! but that ended in tears a few weeks later. So, here we go again. DH said last time that he didn't know if he could handle doing another ivf cycle - with my hormones and emotions going crazy (I really thought I wasn't too bad). You guys all seem so together and just knowing there are other people out there going through the same thing makes things seem so much easier. How come everyone I see in my everyday life doesn't have these problems and can all fall pg at the drop of a hat?
Trubabe - my younger sister has never had more than 4 periods a year. She's got 2 natural babies. The 2nd one took her a year to fall. I suppose there are a myriad of reasons for this as you know, however I don't see that symptom as a showstopper. At least you are beginning to narrow things down, which is a relief. It's worse not knowing.
Juniper - I most definitely will be asking my Dr about the progesterone. I remember on the 2nd FET he asked if they had put me on the progesterone and I said no. But then with the 3rd FET they told me I didn't need it. Now that I understand the levels more I'm going to insist. The naturopath suggested getting a script for progesterone cream from my GP. I'll try that, but not sure if that will be safe during pregnancy when I need the progesterone to stay high
Kaybee - not always together believe me. Everyone just helps each other through. It never ceases to amaze me how much this forum helps. The hormone rollercoaster is hard at times, but a small price to pay. My FS told me that you only ever hear about the success stories and the first timers. People are always reluctant to talk about any bumps along the way, such as MC, IVF etc.
Kaybee: so sorry you had to join us and so sorry to hear about the m/c like mindhugs said we are not always so together lol we have our emotional breakdowns but having this forum to come to and express ourselves and know that at least one if not all of the people have been through or going through exactly what you are going through is a relief and comfort.
May your stay here be short
My tww is going so slow lol but already very productive have made the two rattle patchwork balls for my neice and soon to be either new neiece or nephew (they aren't telling the sex lol ) and am about to ask I write start on the new scrappy country quilt for our bed have been toying in my mind starting to make things for our hopefully in the near future baby but I am resisting as I don't want to get comfy making baby stuff for our own baby and then get a bfn.
Hi everyone...it's been ages since I posted in this thread, but DH and I have just been given the green light by my specialist to resume TTC....so I might be in and out of here a bit more again.
Wishing you all well!
Possums - great news that you can jump back into TTC, hopefully all the work you have put into your health will pay off really soon,
Trueblue - I wish I was as creative as you. I often see baby clothes and want to buy them but then like you it would be hard to look at them with a BFN...hopefully soon...
Kaybee - Welcome. Sorry for you loss hunnie. I definitely have my fair share of moments when I feel like I'm falling apart and I'm only just beginning my IVF journey. I remember when I started TTC and I was saying I didn't know how I would cope should I get to the 9 month mark.......
Mindhugs - I can't believe that your FS hasn't checked your progesterone. I feel really mad for you because it is such an easy test!
Minime - thanks for your kind words. Not long till your transfer, yay
Kaybee - Welcome. Let it all out. Dump on us! We understand!
TrueBlue - Wow you have been very productive indeed!
I got my results today...... Had a bit of a cry with hubby yesterday cos I did a couple of HPTs over the weekend so kinda had an idea what the results would be.
So we now have a month off, and at least I know what to expect next time, plus will be much easier with only a transfer rather that a collection as well.
Now i'm just deciding which of my premium bottles of red I'm going to open as I haven't had a drink in about 8-9 weeks!!!!
inshelligent, i'm so sorry about your neg result. I hope you enjoy that wine tonight. Its good that you have heaps of frozen snow bubs for next time, 9 is fantastic. am hoping you get your whole precious family from them.xxx
MiniMe fantastic 7 little embryos!! am thinking 7 is definitely your lucky number!
Just a quick one tonight sorry but please know that am thinking of you all and really hope June will be THE month for us all! i'm waiting now for AF should be here on thurs, then its off again for this scary ride!
Inshelligent - so sorry, that really sucks. Frozen cycles are a lot less overwhelming and life can actually seem 'normal' rather than all consumed by ivf. Hope you enjoy your month off - fingers crossed that you are one of those miracle stories we all hear and fall naturally.
Trueblue - wow you are so good at keeping busy during tww. I am already thinking about what to do in mine and my cycle has only just started. Know that you mean about making baby stuff just yet though
Mindhugs - sooo true about only ever hearing about the success stories. If the stumbles and bumps were talked about as openly we'd see all this as normal and probably stress less (and get pg faster?)
Hope this is the only cycle you need.
for a great fert. rate.
Had a bit of a cry with hubby yesterday cos I did a couple of HPTs over the weekend so kinda had an idea what the results would be. 
i'm waiting now for AF should be here on thurs, then its off again for this scary ride!
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