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thread: Parenting after Loss or Miscarriage ~ February 2011

  1. #145

    Apr 2009
    central coast
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    Mildez-actually yes i didnt give her any zantac last night and she slept fine until 3:30am so this morning i gave her half the dose and i will slowy wean her off it.
    And i use our angel care religously too even during the day as ella sleeps in her cot she lets me know when she has had enough of the bouncer and wants her bed i actually just finished vaccuming and mopping the floors and she just sat there and watched me.
    And i will proberbly stop when she using it when she goes into a bed but will proberbly cut down to only night time use when she is getting close to 1yr old.

    ARE YOU SERIOUS! you have not used the cot at all tell me how do you and your DH get noisy in the bedroom with a baby that is my domain i need my lovin so it's a kid free zone after 8 weeks old unless they are sick.
    And you sound like you have your hands full with your oldest daughter i have 3 ADD boys and thought they were a handful when they were younger but good lord sounds like she has a shocking temper!

    Forshelby-farex is just rice cereal its very fine and plain but a good 1st solid to introduce babies ella loves it.
    And i asked my DH what the hell he was thinking marrying her and he said god only knows he was young and he didnt know she was like that as they never lived together before they got married she lived with her mum and he use to stay there so her mum did all the cleaning ect it wasnt until they got married and brought a house that they moved in together and he found out she was a dirty lazy pig like i said many many post's back i dont condone cheating but now i know why DH did and why he worked away from home and only came home to her on weekends poor man he cant get enough of me and we have never had a night apart except for when i have been in hospital.

    And sick people pee me off that dont consider new babies if i see or hear a cough or sneeze i tell them to stay away.

    Ella is now makeing the cutest noises to talk to us she holds her dummy with her hand in her mouth and coo's away so cute.

  2. #146

    Apr 2009
    central coast
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    Mildez-my 3 boys have ADD so it has been a challenge with behaviour.

    My eldest has ADD/ODD AND OCD.
    My 2nd has mild ADD only effects his attention and concentration i honestly take my hat off to him he put's 110% into school because he finds it so hard with his ADD and it has paid off he is doing well.
    My 3rd has ADHD and is hyper and struggles with concentration and comprehension.
    But they do get better with age my boys all went to tutoring after school and all had regular visits with their behavioural specialist and pyscologists and i had to be really strict and out smart them to keep on top of there behaviour and it has paid off so there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
    They got it from their moron father.

  3. #147

    Apr 2009
    central coast
    2,298

    Oh! i forgot to mention when DH's mum asked when he is getting the snip his reply was i'm not ready if sandra gets pregnant it's ment to be so if it happens it happens.
    I was like ummm what about our genetic 1 in 4 chance of a bad outcome and he said we wont try to get pregnant but if it happens then so be it.
    So looks like i will have to watch my cycle carefully and make sure DH withdraws or i could be back in the old thread

  4. #148
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    Jan 2008
    Brisbane
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    far out ferrals...thats a big decision within not actually making a decision. I am all for people having loads of babies but god doesnt he know what you went thru to get Ella, now the old saying 'it was worth every minute' is great fantastic wonderful in hind sight but really do you need to be caring for Ella and going thru all that cause DH says 'what will be will be'??

    Dont get me wrong i am 100% behind you if you decide to go again, id be pleased to support you!

    You ly really need to decide what you want huni!

  5. #149

    Apr 2009
    central coast
    2,298

    My heart says no more i will have to have a talk to DH he will understand i hope.

  6. #150
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    Apr 2009
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    I wrote a huge post yesterday and lost it

    Ferrals my DD has had a range of diagnosis over the years ranging from ADD, ADHD and DD (developmentally delayed) I've been against any pharmacutical treatment but I think we might have to give it a go. Have a specialist appointment on the 21st of this month. She see's a counsellor but thats not going well. She lies through her teeth to the lady and last time told her how DH and I fight so much and she is really scared of what is going to happen to me and her. Thing is DH and I rarely fight and the few times we have there is definately no way she heard and DH is not violent or agressive what so ever. We don't raise our voices. She's told a number of other porky pies also. Says she wants to go stay with her Dad but here she flatly refuses to go and almost always comes home crying when she goes there and says she is never going again. Now she is threatening suicide if she doesn't get her own way. This has been going on about a week where she says I wont have to worry about her anymore as she will be dead and it will be over something stupid like me asking her to brush her hair or teeth. Its a big worry. I don't even like mentioning it as things are very bad. Thank God for my parents as they have been really great about it. DH parents on the other hand blame it on us. They have no understanding what so ever that sometimes things are outside your control. Like when there Son in Law was really depressed they told him to snap out of it. Anyway hopefully this new Dr can help as I'm at my wits end and I find myself praying everyday she hurries up and grows up. Its really sad as there is little enjoyment in been her mother anymore between the suicide threats and dodging flying objects. Its a very lonely road as I can't say I know anyone going through the same or similar thing with a child of her age. I've certainly heard of others but they are all very disfunctional (like into drugs and that sort of thing) DD has been this way right from the start but its gotton worse and worse the older she has gotton. I think other then mood stabilisers I've tried everything (from parenting courses, behavioural therapy, family therapy, councelling, to just ignoring daily activities like not showering, brushing teeth and nothing works) I'm just glad I have school to have a little break from it during the day but problem is the school rings 2-3times a week to come and get her. She isn't a dump child. There doesn't look like there is anything wrong with her and she is about average at school (in a tuitor english group but advanced in Maths) but its her lack of ability to control her emotions. She is laughing hysterically in one second to bawling her eyes out and throwing objects the next. I'm confident she will eventually be diagnosed with bipolar but right now there is no way I'll allow them to put a label on her although I know there is something bad going on inside her head and what ever it is she was born this way so please don't shoot me down. Thats why I don't talk about it as I'm sick of well wishes giving me that bad parenting line like its something I have done to create her like this. My parents went through something similar with my brothers which is why they are so good with DD. The thing is with them they got better with age where as DD just gets worse.

    Ferrals we have been using the withdrawal method also. Its a little risky although when I was doing middy it was said to be the most common and very effective way of birth control but why its such a high failure rate is its not successful in men inexperienced in the bedroom so basically it ruled out alot of men. It said it all came down to the man knowing when to pull out. That along with me not cycling at the moment with the BF I know we are safe but I've told DH its not a forever solution unless he is prepared from an oopsie. Part of me would love an oppsie that would take all the stress out of ttc but with DD1 I think its a bad idea. I told DH I want him to go get the snip and its because whilst ever he doesn't I hold hope of having another baby and atleast if he did I can deal with it and get along with enjoying my babies without holding hope I am going to be doing it all again one day. I told him I can't have anything done to myself (like my remaining tube tied) as if it was my choice I wouldn't be making it final for me but if he doesn't want more then he should have it done so we can move on and enjoy what we have. DH doesn't want to be an old Dad so having another in 5-10yrs isn't an option.

  7. #151

    Apr 2009
    central coast
    2,298

    Mildez-I didnt believe in ADD ect when i 1st had my son and i started to notice a few things that were not the norm and i just always thought other bad kids were due to bad parenting until my 5yr old told me one day mummy i want to get a hammer and hit a nail into my head so i will die i nearly died myself and asked him why and his reply was my brain wont stop its going to fast i just want it to stop.
    That was when i researched until i couldnt research anymore and found DR mark selkowitz he is a behavioural specialist and i read his 1st book and it was like reading a book about my son what an eye opener i was not keen on medication but thought i would try anyway to cut a long story short WHAT AN IMPROVEMENT 80% inprovement in school work and he was calm and could actually have a conversation for the 1st time i went through all the testing and brain scans ect and still do with the 2 younger boys every 6mths very expensive and even though their behaviour is great they need it for concentration i asked them about it and all of them said when not on meds it's like being in the room listening from above but not really being there and and their mind is spinning to fast to focus on one thing my middle son describes it like being off with the fairies and you just cant pull your thoughts onto what you are suposed to be doing so they all would rather stay on their medication as my middle son says he feels normal on it so i am a believer if they are diagnoised correctly and treatment is of a benefit my eldest son still has ADD and OCD but is no longer on meds he can control most of his behaviours now he has learnt how to but still needs help with memory and attention to tasks that is why his job is through a disability network that keep an eye on him even though he has a high IQ and is normal per say he still has a disability with the ADD and really couldnt focus in an office job ect so is in factory work doing great earning good money.
    My middle son is very smart and doing well but he needs meds to focus also and his brain scan shows he is almost grown out of ADD just has a little residule ADD left in the frontal lobes where my youngest is still showing signs of strong ADD with his brain scan and really struggles with comprehension and attention he is always off with the faries and a compulsive liar he cant help himself so that is something we are working on but at least he is being well behaved at school.
    So dont dismiss medication all together sometimes you are doing more harm by not helping them i certainly changed my mind when i saw the results.

  8. #152
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    Aug 2008
    Ouiinslano
    5,303

    We co-sleep with our DD. She's so little and precious, and I couldn't bear to have her sleeping in a cold room by herself. We waited so long to have her here, I feel like we should enjoy her because she'll only be little for a short time. I always think that if anyone gives me a hard time for feeding or rocking her to sleep; it won't be like this forever, and I'll miss it when it's gone. So I am loving her babyhood.

    She's been an absolute dream come true these last few days, super snuggly and smiley and oh-so-cute. Especially meal times. It's been three weeks since she started solids, but she is eating like a pro now! We had curry together for lunch the other day, she was slurping it off her spoon, and rubbing it everywhere, she was covered in yellow by the end of it. She had a go at the rice too, but not so keen on that. Avocado and cauliflower still truly the favourites.

    She was a bit grizzly yesterday arvo, so I put her on my back in the Ergo. She fell asleep and I got heaps done in the kitchen. It was great.

    6 months tomorrow! My big girl is half a year old. LOVE. She is the best thing in the world.

  9. #153

    Apr 2009
    central coast
    2,298

    Had a good talk to DH he would like to have one more so wont get the snip in case i change my mind now what i have to watch my cycle like a hawk so i know when to make him withdraw

  10. #154
    Registered User

    Aug 2009
    Murray River Victoria
    649

    LOL, ferrals you know the Withdraw method is totally useless, now be carefull!!!

    Audax i'm with you on the co-sleeping, our little princess is still in the bassinette in our room, and when she wakes up a little early for her 7am feed, she comed to bed with me!!! My FAVORITE mornings!! Usually getting woken with her finger poking me in the eye or getting grabbed on the nose!

    Mildez, Huggs to you, you are a strong woman and have gone through so much, I hope that this upcomming app will bring some light into your daughters life in the future. It's great your parents are supportive with you. I felt a lot of emotions reading your post, we all have these tiny little angel babies, and have no idea what lays ahead for their future, totally out of our control and scares me.

    Tegam..... LOL..... XXXXX what Ban ;>

    Girls my little princess has 2 eye teeth bulging at the seems....we have had a rough few days let me tell you. I went to the chemist today and got some ointment to put on her top gums, but she is drooling so much I don't think it will do anything.
    Last night Alexis had a feed at 1230am, I then couldn't get her to take my boob until 0930am, then struggled with her at 3pm, have been totally besides myself.
    So sorry I haven't been up for posting, when I get a chance to myself last couple of days I tear around the house doing 3hrs of housework in 15minutes!!
    This happened last month when I got my period back for the first time, but it's only day....20....I think...how bad is that, after 5yrs of counting, now I aren't sure....nowhere near due for AF anyway.

    Ferrals DH and I have decided that if anything happens naturally for us in the next year then we will be on tender hooks with the NKCell problem, but if nothing happened by Jan then we are Thawing ahead again!!!

    Have a nice night ladies, I'm off now XX

  11. #155
    2013 BellyBelly RAK Recipient.

    Apr 2009
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    Hello again,

    Well we finally have a diagnosis for baby DD. She has pnuemonia. I'm so pee'd with them but never mind. Hopefully we can get her fixed. They tested her for whooping cough for the 3rd time and said they still aren't convinced its not whooping cough. They said her symptoms are classic for it. I took her to ED last night as her GP is refusing to see her again as I've been back so many times. I stupid RN said oh she is clearly your first (nope cow she is my 3rd) she treated me like a panicking no nothing and then the Dr had a go at me and said because I keep coming back he will do a chest XRAY to make me happy. And guess what a cloudy lung. So thats when they decided she should be there idiots. Completel drove me mental. So for 5weeks I have been watching my bub struggle and get worse and I'm not happy Jan. Then they had 2 paeds come and see her and the consultant thought she should stay in but I said I'd prefer to take her home if she didn't see a problem with that. So we came home at 11pm last night and I go and see her daily in her clinic. She is awesome. I'm so glad we finally have an answer and hopefully the antibiotics kick in soon and she is on the mend. My poor baby.

    BBL have a very unpleasant meeting with DD's bio father. Hopefully something good comes of it but I doubt it. Plus I hopefully pick up my kids professional photos. I'm so excited. I hope they turn out decent. BBL for personals after this stupid mediation thing. Can't even keen J at home as its been 8months trying to get him to this meeting so I can't cancel now although I so want to.

  12. #156

    Apr 2009
    central coast
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    Murrycod-yeah so i have heard it has always worked for me my man times it really well and i know when my eggs pop but now i know hubby would be happy for one more i dont think i will be so blahsay about it but i have used withdrawal method my whole adult life but i hate using that method it spoils the mood and after DH and i trying to get pregnant and then being pregnant we havnt had to worry for 2 years and i really enjoyed the not withdrawing if you know what i mean.

    I never had a problem with teething with the 3 boys i was so lucky they were perfect no fuss babies but i have a feeling i am going to get the works with Ella she seems so tempremental and fussy i can just see her being a real shocker with teeth.

    And are you talking this janurary for embie thawing?

    Mildez-glad you have a diagnoisis even though it was a long time coming i hope they can help get her better real quick.
    My dean had pnuemonia when he was 18mths old he was a croupy athsma sickly bub and was always on steriods and nebulisers it was on going every winter until we moved into a brick house with no sign of damp so now anyhouse we live in has to be brick and no signs of dampness as he at 18 will still get very sick with chest colds and ear infections but if stay away from mould mildew and damp he is fine.

    Audax-good for you each to their own i say my babies are precious to and Ella even more so with what we went through to have her it's just something i can not do i cant sleep if they are even in the room with me i lasted 8-10 weeks with all my kids and struggled to sleep with all their noises so i had to put them in their own rooms but like i said in an earlier post i make up for it during the day just mummy daughter time lots and lots of cuddles and kisses.
    And 6 months god it has gone so quick Ella is 3 months tomorrow.

  13. #157
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    Aug 2009
    Murray River Victoria
    649

    Oh Mildez, hope she getts better real soon X

    Ferrals, yeah Jan 2012. Bring it on WOOOOT the pressures off next time round!

  14. #158

    Apr 2009
    central coast
    2,298

    Murrycod-sooooooooooooooooooooooo excited for you i myself told DH last night forget it i am even selling our co co cradle Ella is my princess girl and my last.

    Mildez-how's J?

    Hi to everyone hope all is well.

  15. #159
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    Apr 2009
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    Ferrals J is definately no better. If anything she is a little worse. There is definately no signs of improvement yet. I took the video footage of her coughing to the paed yesterday and she said she is sure she has pertussis which has caused the pneumonia which has now spread from the lower left lung up to the right upper lung also. She reckons the reflux has nothing to do with it. She also said whooping cough is hard to diagnoses and her negative NPA results don't mean she doesn't have whooping cough. I sat up to midnight crying my eyes out as I'm so worried about her and its not like she is getting better and the ab's aren't going to fix her then just as I did drift of J woke something I was happy about as she sleeps way to much but then I had to keep her in bed with me which I do love but with no monitoring she was croking away so I stayed awake worried she would stop breathing. A friend of a friends (who I know but not well and was a ltttcer) lost her son recently when she accidently smothered him in bed so now I am freaking out that I could do that also or sleep through her struggling to breath so I do get comfort out of her been in her bassinet with me listening to her monitor beeping away. Her DS died a few days after the incident from been deprieved of oxygen. I've co-slept with my other 2 but after struggling to conceive J I am extra paranoid now.

  16. #160

    Apr 2009
    central coast
    2,298

    Farrrkkkk! how scarey i hope she starts getting better soon i took 3 months to get better when i had it.

    AFM-i bit the bullet and am selling my cradle and giving away Ella'a newborn clothes so it proves to DH i am serious.

  17. #161
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    Ferrals how long till the cough started to improve? J has been coughing for 5weeks now but the last 2weeks have been the worst and currently its as bad as it ever has been. She had a cold at 2weeks old (which is how whooping cough starts apparently with the cold, then a break then the coughing starts) she started coughing at 5weeks as she had been coughing a week when she was immunised at 6weeks) the cough has been progressively getting worse ever since. SoI assume she is about 1/2way through the disease if she definately has it. The paed yesterday said the first immunisation does not protect them and they wont get any immunisation until they have the 2nd one at 4months although she obviosuly had the start if it before she was immunised. My poor bubba. She is sleeping now but every 10-20mins wakes herself up coughing.

    As for selling your bubba things its a good idea if your not having more. Just clutters the place hey? I'm getting rid of mine also which makes me very sad but I can't clutter our cupboards and I guess its another way for me to move on from hoping they might be used again by me. I'd go again tomorrow if DH was as keen as I but he isn't. It all comes down to what he will miss out on if we had another. I'm just really worried that I know how jealous I will be when certain friends are having bubs and I am done and dusted. I'd be happy for them of course but I know I always planned 4 and I am sure I'm always going to grieve that child I will never have. Then I get angry that if it didn't take so many years getting pregnant J should have been my 4th and I would have been truely happy. I don't feel complete and I'm sure I never will if I don't have another but never mind. Its a joint decision and the benefits of having another don't outweigh the risks (like never getting pregnant, or getting pregnant but not getting the take home baby, stress on our marriage etc)

    Murraycod hope Alexis is going ok with her teeth and they come through soon and give her a break. I was lucky my kids didn't have trouble teething. I've heard NKcells can come and go. Well not go completely but the levels fluctuate and some women fall pregnant again without assistance and don't need the prevention treatment. In saying that its not somehting I'd risk (like if you do get a natural BFP I imagine you probably would start on treatment again) BUT i HAVe heard of other people havong the works with one pregnancy and needing nothing for the next.

    Funny about withdrawal methods as I was taught in uni that its a very reliable method. But the first time DH and I tried it and then I thought he didn't do a good job (I was a little slimy down there afterwards) I took the morning after pill just to be safe to be safe and DD came along anyway. Oh how nice it would be to be that fertile again!

  18. #162
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    Oct 2009
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    Mildez: That's terrifying about your little girl, oh I hope you start to see improvement soon. Is the worst over with now or is she still in the middle of it? I'm so glad you kept going to the hospital and the doc's, so awful when doc's don't trust mothers! I'm sorry that you don't feel your family is complete, it must be a hard feeling to live with

    Ferrals: You've done so well with your boys! They sound awesome, well done you for working with them to help them do their best. Brave move in selling the baby stuff, you went through so much to get Ella that I can't imagine having the fear back again. I have friends who have fragile X, and just before they were going for IVF (they were going to use a donated embryo) they fell preg naturally and it was a killer 14 weeks til they found out they had a girl who has healthy. They're really only just starting the pregnancy now (15 weeks) and they're 100% certain that she'll be their only child.

    Audax: We used to co-sleep, but Sammy's a massive wriggler so I never slept well.

    Bah, Sammy's making noise over the monitor, BBL!

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