Thanks Sarah, yes I can remember Deejoy's story. Kelly, yes I did read the article thanks, pretty much what I already knew, in fact I haven't really found any new info yet that I didn't already know, have reached a decision today anyway thank you eveyone for your help and support!

saw my Dr today and ge said he has known this OB professionally and privately for a long time and about him saying he would not manage my VBAC if that is whay I decided he has never said that to him about another PG, so he was deadly serious. He said that OB was a totally supportive VBAC OB who often assists him in his VBAC’s and that if he says it is out of the question he trusts his judgement.

Apparently the part of my pelvis which is under average size is the very top part which is stopping the baby from even engaging and if he can’t get engage he won’t be going anywhere as the pelvis is sort of a funnel shape and gets smaller as it goes down, so this is most likely why Jackson never engaged.

Vanita - thanks for the words, trust me, no one will make me feel bad about my decision, no matter how I birth this baby he will be loved and cherished and that is all that matters!