I've not attacked Obs, just stated some facts and reasons as to why these people [the "bashers"] might feel and act the way they do, if anyone is interested in delving deeper than deciding to be annoyed and think all people who don't like Obs are nasty, horrid people. Easier to make peace with it when you understand people and why they do and say the things they do. They are upset/angry - thats their story/journey to sort out. So what makes you upset/angry about it? Why does it irritate you, really, how does it affect you? You have an Ob who you think is awesome, which is wonderful, I am so happy you'll have a great, trusting journey with him... I wish everyone could. But its just not reality, which is why we have enough complaints going around for you to notice - and no other means for these women to debrief in but places like this online community. We can only ever make it better by saying YAY to the great Obs. Unfortunately because so many Obs tried to sue me for members comments on their experiences with me, we no longer have a recommend an Ob forum.

Society creates an 'us and them' mentality, its a widespread thing people do, hard to shift. I never support Ob bashing or would allow it to go on here, but I support being real and having facts - and being understanding and loving to people and their views, even when they're not being so loving. Because s the saying goes... everyone is fighting some kind of battle.