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    Deb, you are truely a fountain of knowledge. Thanks for all the info. one baby or two. I certainly don't care, glad to hear you feel the same. Happy and healthy is all I want. After losing my twins I secretly have always wanted it to happen again. Chances of identical again is practically nil but there's always a chance of fraternal. For me it would be a stressful pregnancy but hey, it's gonna be stressful anyway!



    I hope this is the month for all of us and if not, then we keep cheerful and try again.
    Love to you all.
    Great to chat again Debs - big hugs.
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    Deb - I have a normal LP (about 14 days) but my progesterone level was 11 or 13 at day 21 which, as my gynae says, you ovulate - but not well. So for the same reason, we decided on the clomid path. It worked 4th cycle with Caitlyn and this is cycle 4 again. He is happy for me to try 6 cycles before heading off to other options. This is after discussion about endometrial lining changes and CM deficits. I hate the effects (although in reality I get few) and as such I take it at 9pm to decrease being woken by the hot flushes.

    The early miscarriages were investigated (after *persuasion*) by an early miscarriage specialist. My gynae is very good and referred me early. The miscarriage guy, with reluctance as I had only one of the three with a positive BHCG (and even that one wasn't positive until 5weeks) did the testing and came up with Factor V leiden with protein C deficiency.

    Had the first appointment with IVF before we found out we were pregnant with Caitlyn and he said due to the heterozygous nature of the Factor V leiden he wouldn't do anything during the pregnancy. As such we didn't.

    Caitlyn's death is due to placental insufficiency, the placenta just did not implant fully at the 22ish week mark. She was the perfect size at 18-20weeks U/S but could not grow and this was not discovered until too late.

    Next pregnancy ... we will be going back to RPA. My gynae is an OB but only works in prvate hospitals so he is more than happy for me to go to the facility with the neonatal support. I was going midwife clinic and the OB I was admitted under for Caitlyn works with them and is happy for me to follow the same management path. The difference will be aspirin and clexane from conception. U/S as normal in the first trimester up to 20 weeks. From then there will be doppler assessment of placental blood flow as well as foetal growth measurements every 2 weeks.

    I am very happy with the management plan and, even though I am far from thrilled at needing to give myself injections, it will be worth it to get that healthy baby at the end.

    I am with you regarding the age issue. I am heading quickly to the age of 35 and I would still like 3 babies which does not leave me much time if each conception takes this long to achieve.

    Here's hoping we all make the transition from here to PAML very soon.

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    Thanks Debbie for your kind words and support.
    Thanks Michelle for sharing your story - it was an honour to hear it.
    I too will commence clexane and asprin from a positive hpt. I have had extensive testing and no abnormalities could be found with my bloods. No abnormalities with our babies. As you probably know the course of action for recurrent mid trimester loss is the clexane and asprin regime. The stats look good for this treatment and like you the thought of self injection isn't exciting the hope of a happy healthy live baby is!
    I hope you and Debbie and I can travel the pregnancy path together. We so deserve it. Getting pregnant is just the start isn't it? Then we've got to keep the little darlings tucked safely inside growing and developing until they are big enough and strong enough to be born healthy.
    We can do it!!!!!
    Please keep in touch I look forward to watching your journey.
    I haven't had any symptoms from the clomid but today is only day 2. Many many women don't have symptoms so I am hoping I will be one of them!
    Big hugs to you xoxoxoxo

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    Deb - I had nausea and peaks and troughs in energy during the very first round when I took clomid in the morning. When I changed to the evening there were no side effects prior to conceiving Caitlyn. This time I am up to cycle 4. On the cycles this time I have found I am woken through the night / early hours of the morning with the most amazing hot flushes and sweats. I changed the time I take clomid to try to change the wake up time from 5am to 7am at least. So now it is my 9pm medication!!

    this month will bring us all the blessing we are after. I hope PAML can cope!!

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    I am glad it's settled down for you. I am up to my third dose today and so far I don't feel any different so I am guessing I am not going to notice anthing untoward.
    I pray this helps us get the little miracles we are hoping for!
    Have a great day Michelle

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    Good luck Deb. Keep us posted how you are going.
    May we all be blessed.
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    Wishing you all the best of luck.

    Deb sounds like you might get a good run with the clomid, I remember when I was on it I had terrible hot flushes ~ not very nice at all & always turned up when you least needed them to as well.

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    Hi Debbie,How are you going???? You have been in my thoughts. I hope all is good.
    Michelle - how are you??? Have you got signs of ovulation yet??? I am cd11 and just started to see some ewcm. Yippee!!! Much more than ususal. No positive on the opk yet - teeny tiny second line. Maybe tomorrow?? I would love to hear how you are and compare notes!
    Big hugs to you both.

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    Hi Deb!! Just starting to get some EWCM myself. Will start using OPK tomorrow (I think - although I am currently on a 30 day cycle so it may be better to do Thursday). Only problem I have is that I am on night shift Wed / Thurs so I have no idea when to test!!! Other than that - just feeling a little hot (mostly at night) but otherwise nothing out of the ordinary. Roll on ovulation around Saturday!!! Are you feeling OK otherwise??

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    Hi Michelle,
    No no symptoms, maybe a bit crotchity????
    Okay, so do you have a 30 day cycle on Clomid? Does that mean you ovulate on cd16? I am interested as clomid very often throws 28 day cycles and that's what I am hoping for!Let's think sticky healthy happy baby vibes for us this month.
    Where are you Debbie - AngelBabies3?

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    My cycle has been 30 days on and off since Caitlyn was born. I think it is my body trying to get back to a Saturday AF so I may have a 28 days cycle (it was prior to pregnancy) this cycle but I just don't know anymore. It just means DTD lots over the weekend to cover all bases!!

    I completely understand the crotchity bit - this cycle is OK but last cycle was awful. I was moody, teary and completely not my usual self.

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    Are you a nurse too Michelle? The night duty thing had me wondering???

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    Here's loads of sticky vibes for all you wonderful women this cycle.

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    Thanks Kirsty. We need every bit of help and positive vibes we can get.

    Yep Deb - an Emergency one. I amuse my gynae by having read lots before seeing him and asking the right questions (like how will 6 cycles of clomid effect my endometrial lining and change the CM ) I was in education and clinical but back doing just clinical at the moment. This may change soon but I really do like what I do (on most days - some are a little more difficult)

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    Sorry Deb. Have been a bit busy.

    Well, currently on CD24 and I am expecting AF to arrive either on CD28 or 29. Not sounding too hopeful am I?
    Had a day 21 progesterone test on Monday, should get results today or tomorrow (I was actually day 22 when they did the test). I wanted to try and check whether they think I am ovulating (or at least whether I did this cycle). I had plenty of EWCM around days 13 to 16 or 17. Temp did show a rise although nothing impressive. Went from steady 36.3 to a more or less constant 36.5 on CD16 onwards. Got couple of positive results with one brand of OPK and almost a positive with the other brand around days 14-16 (yep still trying both brands at the same time!!!!!). So hopefully the test results will also point to confirming that I ovulated. Had some stomach pains on Sunday (CD21) which is usual for me in the build up for AF. Trying like hard to stay optimistic but somehow I don't htink we have done it this time. Beginning to think that we should maybe start to consider stopping as everyday that passes means another day older for me now and when a baby would be born.

    Boobs still tender, and my hair is so lank and dull. Keep thinking that these are good signs but also don't want to get my hopes up.

    Glad to hear you are doing well. Hope this works for you ASAP so you can stop those injections. Don't forget to let me know if and when you get some great news. I will do the same.

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    Hugs sweetie Debbie you sound a bit blue. Don't you give up now if this isn't your month it's gonna be really soon - okay. I know the age thing gets to me sometimes too but I was talking to a woman at playgroup today and she was 42 when she had her first and is now expecting #2 at 45! Gorgeous and inspirational. Our eggs are gorgeous beautiful healthy baby making machines! Think good egg thoughts...
    I am not on injections Debbie just oral Clomid - I took it from cd2-cd6 I will be on injections (clexane - simply a blood thinner) and asprin from a positive preg test - due to my history of losses.
    I take everything back about no symptoms I am a she devil at the moment. CRANKY and horrid. Urggghhhh. I pray this is the month for the three of us.
    The three Musketeers!!!!
    Michelle - Emergency nursing, I enjoyed my stints in there not so great in small country hospitals - I found that a bit scary and unsupported. I am sure you know what I mean!
    It's so nice to have met you both. Everyone has to keep their spirits up and positive thoughts happening.
    Love to you both

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    Oh, sorry, didn't realise you were taking the Clomid orally. So the yucky bit is to come! I guess you should be used to it being a nurse but the thought of injecting yourself! YuK! Still, the things we will do on our quest to hold a happy and healthy child. It really is mother's love. But cranky and horrid! Not you surely!? Hang in there Deb. Good job your husband is such a rock.
    Not really feeling that blue, I guess I am getting used to the idea that it may NOT happen and yet at the same time still trying. I'm not really being negative just realistic. I am totally calm about it. A neighbour of mine has no children. She is 52 now. They stopped trying when she was 45. Many M/C both naturel pregnancies and IVF. Her husband wasn't keen to try a donor egg. Now I know that we are not exactly the same as she has never had any luck with carrying a child and also found it hard to get pregnant in the first place. But I remember after she lost her final pregnancy that she said that she was looking at taking a new direction in life as she knew she had to stop at some point. At least I know that I can get pregnant easily and carry to full term and my losses have not been age or genetically related so we will certainly hang in there for now. But, the time may come......

    On a lighter note, positive vibes to you all. I have always been a believer in "be careful what you wish for, as it surely will come true." It has usually worked for me in the past.

    Hugs to you Deb, Michelle and everyone TTC.
    PAML here we come!
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    Debbie - you may think as nurses injecting will be fine BUT I am such a sook. I can give an injection without flinching but the taking is not thrilling me. But as you say, the things we do to have a healthy baby. I hope you are doing OK.

    Deb - how's the CM?? Any more signs?? OPK yesterday showed a darker line than today but today was after a night so I am not sure what credence to give the result. I guess I'll try it again tomorrow and BD anyway!!

    Have a lovely night girls.

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