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    Morning girls,

    satya - I am glad you seem so positive this cycle! Hopefully the rainbows are a sign. That's a good idea to see another dr to get a hormone level test done, hopefully they will be more helpful than the other dr. I totally agree with you about government telling us to have more babies, but not helping out financially when there are problems. You don't sound bitter - I have had the same thoughts myself. Other states in Aus, and a lot of other countries (even India - I did a LOT of research), have recurrent miscarriage clinics with the latest research and treatment, but here there is NOTHING. I even had to search for my own specialist to see, as no one knew who to send me to. Now, it is all very well for the government to want us to have more children, but come on, how many of the girls here would love to and can't? At least I am in a position to be able to afford going private and seeing a specialist, but a lot of people who would make fantastic parents just can't afford this. Sorry, I'm done with my rant now. Things just could have been so much easier for me if there was more support here.

    Sharon - yay for Oing! for this cycle.

    Bekz - good to hear from you!

    Salt - good luck for this cycle. It must be so good to have things back in order again and full steam ahead! Hopefully the injections will do the trick - they better, they hurt enough! It does sound like the injections are probably the answer for me, as the only problem they can find is weird cycles and a short LP. As the injections act as hormonal support during the LP, I guess it probably is the right treatment, although I think clomid would do the same thing, but it also boosts hormones at the beginning of the cycle (and I definitely don't like the sound of the side effects). Anyway, soon we will see. I will have my BT in the morning and will usually hear back from the clinic lateish in the afternoon. I just get too nervous to cope with work while I am waiting for the phone call and I am already getting nervous just thinking about it. I wish things didn't have to be this hard.

    Hi to everyone else.

    My symptoms are only getting stronger. My bbs kill, I am sweating at night (I get that when I am pg), have heaps of creamy cm, and I am tired and nauseous. I was also cramping a fair bit yesterday, not quite like AF cramping and not really bad, but definitely there on and off. Anyway, my last injection is tonight - yay!!!! I have been feeling quite down and like it will never work out and can't seem to get those bad thoughts out of my head. I am seeing my psych tomorrow, so hopefully that will help. Work has been a nightmare which isn't helping either. It just upsets me so much sometimes that I will never have that happy pregnancy that most women will have. I wish I could have just had one happy, innocent pregnancy before all this happened, just so I could enjoy the happiness once. It seems such a huge part of a woman's life, and I feel like I have missed out on so much. Even if it does one day work out (and I don't know if that will ever happen), I will not be able to enjoy pregnancy the way I should. It is like one of life's greatest treasures has been stolen from me and I will never get it back again. Sorry to sound so dramatic, I just wish I could have had that experience, just once.


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    SELFISH POST ALERT!!!

    Sorry ladies, I'm having a very bad day : (
    My temp took a huge dive today and I suddenly got EWCM, and now I am worried that I am about to O and DH is away and has been for the past few days so no chance of BDing. I'm so over this. If we don't make it this cycle it will be a year of TTC. I just feel so useless and wonder if it will every happen for us. For so many years I have been careful to not get pg and now that I have been trying all I get is one BFP followed shortly by misscarriage. I am so depressed. It takes months for me to get pg and then I loose them. I know I am probably being overly dramatic, but hey, a girl is allowed to be a drama queen every now and then!
    Can someone please look at my chart and let me know what you think? I think maybe it might be an anovulatory cycle this time. I have dipped below the coverline 3 times, and my chart does not really look biphasic.
    Sorry for all the 'me, me, me'.

    love

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    Hi everyone,

    Yes Salt & Bun, the innocence of pregnancy has certainly gone for us. After my first m/c I didn't feel that way, but when I never fell pg again that changed. Now having had a second one I do have hope that at least I can get pg but I know I will forever worry if I get spotting that the end is near. It sucks.

    Leyla - You sound very like me the other night when I thought I was going to miss out on BDing around O time. I know how bad that feels. I don't know enough about charts yet to help by looking at it, sorry.

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    Leyla, I don't know - was your OPK a definite positive? I notice that one of your temps that's below the coverline is sleep deprived, so maybe you can discount that one. I understand how frustrated you must feel :hugs:

    Good luck everyone!

    congratulations Flowerchild!

    Not much to report here - I am 7dpo, temp is looking good but too early to notice a pattern I think. Did have cramps yesterday which is a good sign.

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    satya I know that FF is going to give me a coverline tomorrow, which will make me one day ahead of you but as soon as I put in Sunday's temp it is going to move O day forward to yesterday, how do I know this you ask, well I put in some dodgy temps and it doesn't matter what the actual temps are, FF does the same thing every time. What DPO do you think you will test, I am not going to let myself test before 14 dpo. Hope you get to see a nicer Dr when you go for your BT
    BekZ I thought that was what happened to you last time, at least you aren't spotting, and you are, over 8 weeks aren't you? so I think that is a good sign for you. I know when/if I get my next bfp I will be thinking the worst until I get past 12 weeks.
    Bun I think the thought of a happy pgncy has gone for most of us, I am luckier than some and have managed to experience 2, even though I m/c before falling with Jordan it was more than likely caused by the IVP xrays I had to have and had been told that I wasn't pg but found out a week later I was actually pg, so in a way the m/c wasn't my fault. But my last m/c wasn't because of xrays but because there was a problem with the baby and I just get so scared that it will happen again, and again, and again so big :hugs: to you hun.
    saltprincess No luck with DH tonight, but I am pretty positive that I o'd yesterday so not much point really. LOL at your very firm tone, i'm shaking in my boots (well if was wearing boots i'd be shaking in them). Sounds like you have a great OB hope you won't need him for FT though, you get your bfp this cycle.
    Leyla :hugs: it must be awful thinking that you may have missed your opportunity this cycle, from looking at your chart I have to agree with Sally about discarding the sleep deprived temp.
    SallyJ I think your temps are looking great, when do you think you will test?

    I have been getting stabbing pains in my tummy today (like a sharp needle) then it will go away, then get some more stabbing pains, I am fairly certain that I had this very very early on when i was pg in dec (like in the first few days after O) in saying that though I will also so this "I WILL NOT TEST TILL 14 DPO"

    Anyway, I am off on a scrapbooking weekend tomorrow (my friends all went tonight but DH would only let me go for 1 night which is better than nothing) so will try and log on before I go so that I can update my chart, please don't do too much chatting over the weekend (jk), it is sooooooo hard to catch up.

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    Now I am really confused! FF has taken the coverline away alltogether. I guess I just have not O'ed yet. Very strange since I am now CD 28!!!! ARGH!!!

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    Leyla I think it is quite possible that you are having an anovulatory cycle :hugs:

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    Hi everyone,

    Leyla, I think Sharon could be right about your cycle, it's either that or your temps are just all over the place. I think each time you have a temp rise FF will wait til 3 consecutive days of higher temps to put the coverline back on.

    Sharon, LOL Great minds think alike. I put in a fake temp for tomorrow just to see what would happen & it has given me the coverline with an O date of CD13 which is exactly where I think it should be. Hopefully tomorrow my temp will still be up and I will get the coverline where I'm expecting it. If this is the case that would put me at 2DPO today. I am intending not to test until 14DPO but if I get any symptoms I know I will be tempted to test earlier. My DF is still managing to talk me out of buying any of the early tests from LC but I'm really wanting to get some so I can test a little earlier. I'm worried that if I'm having implantation problems and don't test early then how am I to know this is what's happening. I had strong symptoms (including nausea which I never get, ever) last cycle but only had a test that picks up higher amounts of HCG so of course it didn't work when I tested early. Unless I buy new sensitive tests I can only use the one I have left & for that I will have to wait til 14DPO. I just know the wait is going to kill me. Hope you have a great time at the scrap booking weekend. Who knew such things existed!!!

    Hope everyone else has a great weekend.

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    I hope everyones having a good day, just remember that no matter what to stay positive and keep your head up. Its going to be our time soon I just know it!

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    girls - ive got everything on my body crossed for you all. I hope to see HEAPS of BFP all. IM sittin back and waiting for AF to come back...over 7 weeks now.. no happy JAN!
    Have a fantastic weekend of baby making
    xxmaz

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    Just a quick note girls... Have a happy Sunday.

    I am plodding along. I have a cold at the moment. The temping downstairs is so much better than last month. My temp has gone up .1 today but I put that down to my cold. I am coming up to fertilty time of the month soon so I am remaining positive. I have given up coffee and alcohol and will see what happens.

    Spreading the love to all for the next week.

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    Hi everyone - seems like everyone is waiting to O, or in the TWW!

    I've been laid flat by a migraine the past 2 days. Otherwise crusing along, trying not to think about it. Have had some symptoms, but most can be explained away (eg I've been funny about smells the last couple of days, but that could have been due to the headaches). Fingers crossed for more BFPs!

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    Hi all,

    jenjams - well done for giving up coffee and alcohol. I found giving up coffee easy at first (I did it several months ago) but now I find I crave it every now and then. When I really crave it I have a hot chocolate instead and that seems to work well.

    sallyj - Fingers crossed for a BFP for you in a few days.



    Well FF gave me back my coverline on CD13 as expected so I'm now 3DPO. Now the hard part starts.... the waiting and the trying not to test.
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    satya the things we do on FF hey, we are officially cycle buddies, as predicted FF moved O day forward to cd 15 after I put in today's temp. As for the scrapbooking weekends, I go on at least 1 a year, I normally go on a Friday night but DH didn't think I NEEDED to go for 2 night. I have the LC 10 mui tests (4 actually) and it is going to kill me to wait till 14 dpo
    zionsmom thanks for your positive thoughts, I know it will be our turns soon, just wish it didn't have to take too damn long.
    maz 7 weeks, that would be so damn frustrating, praying that AF comes for you soon.
    jenjams I just can't give up my morning coffee, I only ever have 1 a day, but when I am pg I usually go off it anyway so good on you for giving it up now.
    SallyJ that's a pretty big spike you had this morning, hope you get your bfp

    Well ladies I had an absolutely fantastic weekend away, even though it wasn't long enough. When I rang my friend to say that I had arrived at the retreat she went running through the area we scrap in screaming "she's here, she's here, my bestest buddies here" I love her to death, she was my rock after my m/c. There is a group of 4 of us who get on fabulously, and have so many laughs, wet your pants kind of laughs (literally for those of us who have had kids LOL) we played silly games during the night, including musical chairs, and my bf and I sang along to many a Robbie Williams song. We finally decided we better go to bed when we heard a rooster in the distance crowing and realised it was 4.30 am. I can't wait till my next retreat in August!

    No symptoms for me, although I wouldn't expect any at 3dpo. Nighty night, think I better go to bed and try and catch up on some sleep.

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    Sounds like a great retreat Sharon.

    My words yesterday of my chart behaving itself have gone today. I had a big temp dip but I still have this head cold... maybe that affected it... Hope so. Anyway I will just start the BD this week and see what happens. I really hope everyone in here has BFPs this month. I am sure we are all over being in this thread.

    Happy week to all.

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    jenjams when do you normally O, if you normally O later maybe you are going to O early this cycle, I suppose if it was me I would be making sure I got a bd in tonight, good luck and I hope that your temps behaving the way they are supposed to. As for us all being over having to be in this thread, I have to agree with you 100% there.

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    Hi girls,

    Sharon - sounds like you had a great weekend! That sounds like lots of fun.

    jenjams - good on you for giving up alcohol and caffeine. I figure it can only be good, so if you can do it, why not? I have given up coffee and now I only drink decaff tea, and I don't drink much alcohol, other than a half glass every now and then. It's hard giving things up as we have no idea how long we will be on this ride for, and you don't want to miss out on too much in the meantime!

    maz - you must be getting so sick of the wait. I hope AF comes soon!

    zionsmum - thanks for your telling us to stay positive. I needed that today!

    Leyla - looking at your chart I think you could be having an annovulatory cycle too. You are not being overly dramatic - this is a hard road, and we all understand. And IT WILL happen for you, it is just obviously going to make you wait, but don't lose hope

    Salt - I am glad your OB is taking you seriously and is willing to see you in three cycles if you haven't conceived. Sometimes it feels like they don't understand our sense of urgency, but that's great that he will do something for you quickly if it becomes necessary. Hopefully it won't though and you will be UTD in no time at all now that the nasty clot has been taken care of!

    My injections are finally over, and my pg BT is tomorrow. I am too scared to even go to get it done, and am considering just not going, but I know I have to. I hate the wait for them to phone with the results, and I get really nervous and anxious. I thought I might just take the day off, as I can't work in that state anyway, but now it looks like I will have to be at work to take care of an urgent matter, as I will be at a seminar the following day. So, I am not quite sure how I will get through the day with my sanity intact - it has taken enough of a battering lately! I also had to sit through dinner last night listening to my idiot BIL who has never had a hard day in his life prattle on about how depression is just in peoples heads and they should 'toughen up'. I had to leave the table, the guy is a ********. I would like to see him go through 2 m/cs in a row and not suffer depression, not to mention all the other terrible things that can happen in life to bring on depression, he is just one of the lucky ones who has only ever had things go his way, so his view on life is a little skewed at the best of times. It was obvious to everyone else at the table that I have been pretty depressed lately (not to mention my other BIL who was there and has suffered from depression his entire life), and that perhaps it would be a good idea if he shut up. The guy is just too arrogant and too much of an idiot to ever consider someones feelings other than his own.

    Sorry for the rant, but it all has me a bit down today.

    Hi to everyone else, and I hope you all have a lovely day.

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    Wishing you the very very best for tomorrow Bun. I really hope you get the positive results you are so deserving of. Hope you can get through the next few busy days at work too.

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