Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss May 2007 #2

[jenjams]

Salt: my temp dipped below the coverline and I somehow managed to get pg. I am staying positive for you.
Bun: Maybe your DH doesnt lnow how to cope with the situation and he is bottling it all in. Good luck for you this cycle.

Good luck to everyone else

[Sequoia]

Hi all

Saltprincess – how long until you test? Fingers crossed for you, I really, really hope it’s a +ve. Well, netball was really difficult. Saw a few friends there with their babies. DH came with me and I had a big bawl on the way home too but I am glad I made myself get out of the house. We’ve decided if we aren’t PG by October then we are going to get really serious about seeing Mike. It’s just ovulation tracking ATM so nothing invasive is going on. My GP told me that she would have referred me to an FS anyway if we weren’t preggers after 6 months of trying. Hun, I would love to give you a really big hug, sounds like you need it. Sending you through a big cyber hug sweetie and that you don’t have to see Dr Aitken!

*las* - hope you are enjoying your country getaway. I have never been on Clomid nor claim to be an expert but I’ve heard symptoms are less severe if you take it at night time??? This may be of no help to you at all but just thought I would pass it along anyway.

Satya – I too am terrified of someone identifying me here so have not volunteered too much personal information about myself. Would you believe that I did tell two very dear friends yesterday??? I cannot believe how much better I felt last night. Have started back at work today and feel a little down but no cries today (yet!) so that is good.

Leyla – sorry haven’t heard anything about Maca root, glad AF arrived though!

Timnik77 – welcome, I hope your stay here is short. I am sorry for your losses but you have come to the right place! Don’t worry, it won’t be long before you know soooo much more than what you did before. BB is a great learning tool.

Bun – hi there! Will you be making an appt to see Dr Hart before you make your break from the clinic? I had a BT today to ensure my HCG levels were coming down, haven’t heard yet so just waiting for AF to return so I can track again. I’m not at the point yet where I feel frustrated about having BT’s but I bloody hope I’m PG soon so I don’t have to keep doing it! These cold mornings make it extremely hard for the phlebotomists to find a vein! Not totally sure why I have to have a HyCoSy but since I MC’d they want to make sure there is no blockage or something not quite right with my uterus. I really hope your DH can try to understand the things you are going through.


shoegal

[satya]

Hi everyone,

Kiwi girl - good luck at the OB today.
Salt - Don't worry about the temp drop - some women get those and are till pg. Good luck with testing again. You and I somehow have to beat our SILs.
Trying - hope your AF hurries up so you can get on to a fresh cycle
Las - I wish your scan had gone better. The doc tells me I have too much estrogen - I wish I could just give you some.
Leyla - I've never heard of macca root. Glad your AF arrived
Two mums - good luck with this cycle.
Cherie - you might actually be pregnant. 3 BFPs & spotting are very good signs. Some women just take longer than others to show up in blood tests.
Welcome timnik77 I'm sorry for your losses. It must be incredibly hard with your lil sis being pg now. Just a little heads up. When I turned 30 I had been ttc for 2 years (unsuccessfully, no pregnancies at all) and I took that milestone really hard. I kept thinking that I should have been pg by now, in fact I should have had a baby by now, that kind of thing. For me it was far worse than turning 40. Try not to let your mind go in that direction. Try and think of all the great things in your life and be thankful for those, like your partner, your health, your family and friends.
Bun - Sending you:hugs: . Men don't realise how lucky they are in the TTC process. The worst that most of them get is to have to do a sperm sample and even then we tend to have to take it to the clinic as they are too embarassed to do it. My DF & I have had some huge fights since the m/c and we haven't even started to get medical intervention. Ours have usually been if he feels too tired to bd & I think I'm about to O or when he doesn't agree with the money I'm spending on vitamins.
Shoegal. It really is amazing how much better you feel after you stumble out those few words to your nearest and dearest isn't it. I'm glad you are feeling a little better.

I'm up to CD15 now. FF has given me a dotted coverline at day 12 but I don't think it's correct. I think I O'd yesterday (CD14) as I had what I think was O pain for hours yesterday. Last cycle I O'd on CD13 & my post O temp is exactly the same as last time even though it is only .1 higher than yesterday. My coverline got shifted last cycle too so I think that will happen again. Now it's on to the hard part - the TWW.

Sorry to anyone I missed.

[*las*]

Morning all

timnik77 - welcome! I'm sorry for your losses Good luck with the clomid, what dosage are you starting on? I too thought I'd have my family completed by 30..I'm nearly 34 and still going!

Bun - sounds like you have had a rough few days I always try and remember that even though DH doesn't go through what I go through, he is still going through it with me and still has to cop my emotions and try and be the strong one for us both at times. Doesn't mean I don't think your DH is being too hard on you...maybe he's just trying to stay strong, and is going about it the wrong way??? You've had such a tough journey so far and we are here to support you when you feel like you can't get what you need away from here I truly hope this is your month!

Shoegal - I tried taking it at night, when we were using clomid to conceive DS, it kept me up all night, couldn't sleep and felt anxious. I wish I could sleep through the side effects...LOL! Oh well, took the last pill on Saturday, now just waiting for the effects to ease, should be better by the weekend (I hope!).

Salt - oh hun, I'm so sorry Let us know how your FMU test goes. I'm still hoping like crazy that it's not AF. Keep us posted! I too worry about people I'm not sharing ttc'ing with finding my posts, but I guess putting ourselves on the www puts ourselves out there, doesn't it

Satya - will happily take your excess estrogen!! Good luck on your TWW! Hope it's a quick one and I have every body part possible crossed for you!

How is everyone else?? Sharon - how are you hon??

[cherie26]

So I tested again today using Lullaby conceptions that I got off the internet and it was a big. AHHHH! Even the little bit of hope I had left is gone. I still cant believe the false positives from Pregnosis and I guess that is why i still had a little hope that just maybe they were right. Oh well
Still so more signs of AF so I maybe ( Just cant give in until it comes).
[COLOR="Red"]Bun: I am sorry things are tense at home. I know how it feels my DH can be like that sometimes and tells me to toughen up it just proves the fact that men really are from MARS! I hope that this will be your month for a BFP!
[COLOR="Blue"]Satya: I wish I was but after the BPN this morning it doesn't look promising and I did a google search on false positives for pregnosis and I was shocked that it has such a bad record so needless to say I wont be recommending it to anyone or using them again. I also had a BT done a week ago and it showed my levels were under 2 and my progestrian levels were low so I probably havent ovulated so again it is wishfull thinking. I just wish AF would show up so I can start TTC!
Good luck this cycle!
Salt: I am sorry about your BFN but maybe you HCG levels just arn't high enough yet. How did the FMU test go? You still dont have AF so stay positive!

Thanks again everyone for welcoming me in!

[Bun]

Salt - how did you go? Did you test this morning? I sooooo hope it's a BFP for you! I am so sorry to hear about the troubles you and your DH have had - m/c really does put a strain on a relationship. I'm glad things are ok now, and that you took DH along to a counselling session. I am still having counselling, and she said I could bring DH if I wanted to, so maybe I will sometime. It would be weird, but maybe good for us. I know that he just reacts to things differently from me, and that is why he is the way he is. I need a different kind of support to him. I talked to him about it the other night and he said that when he was going through a difficult time (he has a brain tumour and had to have some pretty serious surgery a few years ago), he wanted people to act like nothing had happened, and that was how he liked to deal with it, like it's no big deal. So because that's how he likes to be treated, that's how he treats me when I am going through a difficult time. The trouble is, I am totally different from him and want a hug and sympathy when times are tough, I don't want him to just ignore it! So at least I know where he is coming from. He stayed home and cooked me dinner last night rather than going to training, so I think that is his way of acknowledging that he maybe hasn't been terribly supportive lately.

Las - I hope the nasty side effects go away soon. When is your next scan?

Satya - sometimes I wish our DHs would realise how easy they have it! My DH has never even had to give a sample - all he has ever had to do is BD and he winges! I have been through hell and back with m/cs, scans, appointments, poking and prodding, and I think I have just notched up 30 BTs so far this year!

Shoegal - I am glad you handled netball and work ok. It really is the hardest time getting back out there again. I am glad you felt better after telling some friends. I hardly told anyone, and only told one of my closest friends a couple of weeks ago and was surprised how much better it made me feel. I don't think I will see Dr Hart again, unless I m/c again or have trouble falling. I don't think there is much he can do, as he hasn't found anything wrong with me and we haven't had trouble conceiving yet. Fingers crossed it will stay that way! I have had heaps of trouble with veins too - it is so cold in the mornings and my veins are bad at the best of times! Why do you have to have your cycle tracked again? I have only had 2 cycles of tracking (but my cycles are loooong), but a lot of tests the month before that, and before that I had 2 m/cs in 3 months, so the process is starting to drag a bit for me.

I sometimes worry about people stalking me here and identifying me from some of the things I have said too, but I figure they are unlikely to firstly find the site and then secondly pore through all my posts to figure out who I am! There is actually a girl on BB who had a bub in March that I know (an old housemate), I could tell it was her just from her intro post! But I would never stalk her or pass on any info that I may read here to anyone else. I guess we just have to hope that others are that sensitive too.

I am 4DPO today, so not much happening. I was a bit teary last might for some reason, I think it's a mix of grief over what we have lost and fear for the future. DH said last night that I have lost my spark after all this. I hate to think that I have changed, but how can you not change when something like this happens to you?

[Sequoia]

Great news! My hCG is less than 1! My GP just called to let me know but recommended for my physical and mental state to leave TTC until after AF returns in what she thinks will be 4 to 6 weeks.

BBL for personals.


shoegal

[kiwigirl]

More great news! My hCG was 10 on Monday AND chromosomal tests came back negative so it was officially an unexplained miscarriage NOT a molar pregnancy. The ob/gyn said since my AF has come back I'm officially allowed to try YAY!

[Lee]

Hi lovely ladies,

Well - I'm now a married woman - and what a weekend it was!!!! We had planned a very small private ceremony at home (no family!!) just our best friends. Friday night there was a knock on the door, 4 more of my dear girlfriends had flown down to surprise me (I'm in Hobart) and they live in NSW - so we had an impromptu Hens night and one or two bottles of wine and lots of laughs!! Then the service on Saturday morning. It was all so perfect and took my mind of baby making (kinda!!) for a bit anyway.

Thanks for all your well wishes, it was lovely to get these.

BUT - back to the serious business of baby making. I'm confused...........

I started doing OKPs on about CD10. I got a very very faint positive that day. I kind of thought it was an evap line, and wasn't expecting to O until more like CD 14 or 16. Well, I've done OKPs ever since (just used my last one), and here I am on CD17 and have not got a positive yet. The last week I hade had EWCM on and off, and the BBs have been a bit tingly - which indicate that O is happening - but just haven't had it confirmed by OKP. Should I assume I have O'd or not? The EWCM seems to have stopped at least today anyway.

Was hoping for a wedding bub, but am feeling a bit confused. Perhaps I have not O'd at all - and with all the excitement, have stalled the process?

What do you think?

Salt - good luck with testing, praying for you, you deserve this.

And sorry for lack of personals - but I'm reading and sending you all hugs.

Lee xo

[TwoMums]

Just popping in to say YAY to Kiwigirl, it is bittersweet finding out the chromosomes were normal, on the one hand it is good because at least you know you can make a normal baby and get pregnant, on the other its sad because there was no good reason for the pregnancy failing... but it does make getting "back on the horse" so to speak a little bit easier don't you think?

[Sequoia]

Good afternoon everyone

Saltprincess – have you tested with a digital HPT? I like the Clearblue ones since they say PREGNANT or NOT PREGNANT (sorry, not yelling!) and then there is no error on my part to look for a little blue line. Um, I don’t know what HyCoSy stands for! Wait! Google is my friend:

HyCoSy explained
Hysterosalpingo-contrast-sonography (HyCoSy) is a transvaginal ultrasound technique in which a solution of galactose and 1% palmitic acid (Levovist) - or a mixture of air and saline - is infused into the uterine cavity and observed to flow along the Fallopian tubes to assess tubal patency. The bright echoes generated by the Levovist makes tubal visualization easier, which is further improved by the addition of colour Doppler imaging.
Summary
HyCoSy provides a low-risk, outpatient procedure that is of comparable accuracy to HSG, indicating which direction further diagnosis and treatment of infertility should take. This technique, along with transvaginal ultrasound, is an ideal screening test for tubal patency in the investigation of infertility.


I too would be recognisable by my username too but I have nothing to hide, only in that we haven’t told many people about the MC. Hope things are on the up and up for you.

Gee, I haven’t really thought about TTC now. I think I would be really guilty going to see Mike Aitken and my GP if they have both told me to wait. DH thinks its best to wait so I guess I have to wait!! Grr!

Satya – good luck with the TWW, will be thinking of you.

*las* - sorry that the Clomid is messing you around so much!

Bun – how are things at home? Glad to hear DH is understanding you a bit more. Why do I need another cycle tracked? I think they want to make sure that my January cycle wasn’t just a one off with respect to ovulation and oestrogen levels. Plus, after this HyCoSy I want to make sure that I DO ovulate, just to be sure. My cycles are 32 days in length so not too bad. I go on another forum and guessed a member from there is the same one on here. We’ve PM’d each other and all I can do is hope she doesn’t out me on the other forum, she is lovely so I doubt she would.

I hope you haven’t lost your spark, that it is just hiding ATM. I know this for myself, but I don’t want to say that I will be happy when I have a baby. I need to be happy now, even though this terrible thing has happened to me. I have a beautiful and loving DH, great friends, wonderful family, job that is going great….so I have lots to be thankful for. But then again, I haven’t been TTC for very long so I hope I can just carry on this attitude for a while longer. This probably hasn’t made you feel better but I hope you can find some comfort in the good things in your life right now Bun. Hugs to you sweetie.

Kiwigirl – well done!

Heybacko – thanks hun. Good luck with the house hunting!!

So yesterday was my first day back at work, I am grateful for the distraction and just had a cry with DH after work yesterday. This arvo will be tough, going to see a friend who has a 6 month old to look at her new house. It makes it worse because her baby is perfect! Doesn’t cry and smiles all the time. God I wish she had a ***** of a kid, would make it so much easier!

Hugs to all.


shoegal

[janeo]

Hi Girls i am saddened to see your all still in here i was sure i would come in and it would be empty...

I feel really bad that i havnt been around but i have been really busy planning this wedding plus the whole ttc thing is really hard not to do when you have been trying for 12mths... But we are good.. Im struggling a bit at the moment with my due date looming but we will get there......

LOADS of sticky vibes coming your way and im thinking of you all.......

[satya]

Hi everyone.

Before I forget. I read up a bit more on pineapple juice. If anyone is considering using it after Oing make sure you only drink a maximum of one glass per day and stop as soon as you suspect you could be pg.... so I guess after you think implantation has occurred. Some sites claim it can cause early m/c but I've read heaps of sites that have women who conceived the cycle they drank just one cup per day.

Great news Shoegal & Kiwigirl.

Lee - congrats on your wedding. I hope you have many happy years together.

Salt - I do believe we timed the bding to perfection. I have found on occasions when I wake up early (happens a bit now we are TTC) my temp is always different so you need to not temp early.

Las - thanks for crossing everything - I can do with every bit of help. Having just turned 41 time is running out for me.

Bun - I'd be easy to identify. Not too many people are in relationships with a 17 year agegap. You would only have to look at a few of my posts and you would work it out easily enough. That's why my signature is simple now. I'd hate to think my SIL or anyone else I know for that matter could be reading my thoughts in this particular thread. I also thought that having my angels sitting there was a bit depressing & decided I want to be a bit more positive so I removed them... for now. Don't worry - you will get your spark back. It comes and goes, particularly if you have end up TTC longterm.

& finally - Shoegal - There's plenty of time for your friends baby to turn into a little *****. Just sit back & watch.

I'm feeling really positive today. CD15 & I think 1DPO. I finally found a gyno who has an interest in infertility. The one I initially chose is going on paternity leave of all things so I would have had to wait until September to see him. The one I'm seeing is just 15 minutes away and I've managed to get an appointment in two weeks time. I will either be newly pregnant & wanting some assistance to make it stick or I will be down in the dumps having just got my AF & wanting some assistance with the next cycle.... perfect timing I think.

[BekZ]

Hi Janeo - Glad to hear your wedding plans are going well. Hugs to you as your edd approaches.

[Sequoia]

Ha ha! Thanks satya, that's just what I needed!!

[Sharon19270]

saltprincess how are things going, I have my that the line you saw wasn't an evap line.
*las* I fine thanks hun, saw my gp today (see post below) glad that I did, but now not feeling too hopeful until I see my ob/gyn.
cherie26 sorry to hear about your bfn but are you sure that your pregnosis is a false +ve as I have never had problems with them and when I asked my gp he said that I probably was pg but it didn't stick so that could be what has happened to you. My last cycle I tested with 3 different brands of hpt and pregnosis was one of them and all 3 brands had very faint lines.
Bun good luck with your TWW and I am glad to hear that your dh is being a bit more understanding towards you and how different your feelings are to his
kiwigirl yay, congrats on being allowed to TTC again I hope it happens quickly for you
Heybacko good luck with the house hunting, glad it's you and not me though. Hope it doesn't cause you too much stress.
Lee congratulations on the wedding, glad to hear you had a great day. Most cycles I have used OPK's haven't actually picked up O, but according to my last 2 cycles I did O and according to my Dr I got pg so you could have missed the actual surge, I hope you did O over the weekend it would be cool to know you got pg on your honeymoon
Shoegal if it makes you feel better, my 1st boy was an angel right up until he turned 2, then he suddenly stopped sleeping through the night, refused to go to sleep at bed time and would hardly eat a thing, so just because her baby is 'perfect' now, doesn't mean it will stay that way
satya it doesn't surprise me that they say to avoid pineapple juice once you know you are pg as it was one of the things that the midwife told us at a pre-natal classes that could actually bring on labour... good luck with your TWW

I think that is everyone, if not, sorry I missed you.

I had my GP appointment today and told him about my +ve hpts the last 2 cycles, he immediately said that it needs to be looked into since I have now had 3 early m/c in a row. I now have to make an appointment with my ob/gyn and hopefully he will be able to help us, my GP did tell me that he is one of the most thorough ob/gyn's he knows and he doesn't like to mess around umming and ahing he likes to get to the point which is fine by me, my gp did tell me that in the mean time we should keep 'trying'. I have had water CM today and full ferning, O pain, and a HSO cervix if it is O it is VERY early for me.

[alexis]

Great news Rachel - obviously the results we were expecting but a big relief anyway!! You too Shoegal - nice one!!

Hi to everyone else - no time for a catch-up, we're house-hunting (more stress, coming to think of it...

Alex,

I wonder if I could PM you. I have lots of questions about moving to NZ, that would not be appropriate for this site. Say no if you are too busy, but I see so many different views about Brits moving to NZ on forums and wonder if I could ask some 1-1 questions.

I would also like to know about NZ healthcare - so when we do succeed in TTC I will know what to expect, although from what I have heard it should be better than the UK, if more expensive!

Know this is a lot to ask! but could you PM me if you are OK with this?

Thank you

Alexis

alexis247@hotmail.co.uk

[Bun]

Morning girls.

Salt - how are you? Did you test again today? Dh still has his brain tumour - the surgery didn't get rid of it all and they can't do surgery again. He is on meds to control it, but it still has pretty nasty effects on him and his body. It isn't cancerous, so won't kill him, but it will reduce his life expectancy. He will have to end up having at least 10 yrs of radiation, but that will make him infertile so is not an option right now. It's a pain because it adds another dimension to all of this - we should already have our first baby now, and instead we are on treatment and trying to recover from 2 m/cs, and it puts off radiotherapy even further. I don't think about it most of the time, but sometimes I can't help thinking how unfair it all is. I know this is really horrible, but sometimes I wish that someone else (like a particularly nasty ex I have), could have the tumour instead of DH, because he doesn't deserve it - he is a really good person.

Sharon - I am so glad that you have seen your dr and are being taken seriously. It really sounds to me like something that can be so easily fixed with a bit of clomid or something, and I am glad you are going to see a proactive specialist. Keep us updated - I am feeling very positive for you that you can get this sorted and have another healthy bub in no time.

Shoegal - yay!! So glad to hear that the levels have dropped already. I was told to wait before TTC too, and it seems soooo long at the time, but is probably a good idea to give your body and mind a bit of a break. You are so right saying that you need to be happy now. That is what I am trying to do, as the reality is that we get so focused on having a baby that we lose sight of other parts of life, and we need to be happy with what we have. I am also so very lucky to have a beautiful DH and family and friends, a lovely house, a good job and a holiday coming up. I have so much to be grateful for. I am glad that you managed the first day back at work - I think that is the hardest and you have made it!

satya- you just totally freaked me out re pineapple juice - I have been drinking heaps! But I am only 5DPO so it is probably ok, I will just cut back in the next couple of days. That's fantastic timing for your gyno appointment. So glad to hear you are feeling positive!

kiwigirl - yay! That's great news!

Lee - woo hoo on being married! You never know - you may have managed a honeymoon bub!

Janeo - hey there, good to hear from you! I wish a lot of us were not here anymore too, but unfortunately we are still hanging around. How are the wedding plans going? I have just passed the EDD of my first, and it was not as hard as I thought it would be, but I know how you feel. You can't help but think of what could have been.

Hi to everyone else.

Has anyone ever noticed posts from other people on this site who use the angel emoticons to signify other things, such as their live children or their DH, or themselves? I have noticed a few people, who have obviously and luckily, never entered this part of BB and have no idea what the angel emoticons are generally used for. I would love to be that naive - to see an angel and think only happy thoughts, and to have m/c or loss not even cross my mind. Oh to be that lucky. If I ever see an angel on someone's sig my heart always goes out to them as I assume they have had a loss. But then often you look again and realise they are using the angel emoticon with an entirely different reason. It would be nice to be one of those people.