Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss May 2007 #2

[cherie26]

Well last night i got home and took a HPT (Lullaby conseptions off the net) and got a very faint second line in the time. Got excited because i have already tested with this brand and when you get a BFN there is no sign of a second line not even an evap! so this morning i did another one and again got a very faint (not as faint as last nights) second line! It is the 10ml one so it is very early which means I did ovulate when I was cramping and had the light spotting and we BD then just in case. I am going to test again in two days to make sure and that the line it getting darker! Keep your fingers crossed for me!

[jenjams]

My fingers are crossed for you Cherie.

To everyone

[*las*]

Fingers crossed for you Cherie!

[kiwigirl]

All the best cherie, that's so exciting!! How many DPO are you?

[satya]

Hi everyone,

Cherie - contrats on the BFPs. Things are looking very good for you this month. What CD are you at now? I also get O pains but not spotting at O. I'm thinking that maybe what you are describing could have been implantation. In answer to your question because my m/c's have both been really early I hadn't been to an OB yet so I've just been seeing my GP. I have now been referred on & am seeing a gyno in a week and a half. He apparently has an interest in infertility so I guess I will see how that all goes.
Bun Very interesting stats the OB gave you there. I'm glad they made you feel more positive.
Pash - your symptoms are sounding very positive.
Sharon & Belinda - Extra weight can have an effect on fertility but for some reason it is only in some women. I also have extra weight on. Some doctors suggest that you lose weight before trying IVF because the weight could be the problem and you could be wasting your time. One thing I know is that bigger ladies are far more likely to end up with diabetes whilst pg. I know several women who've had this and they were all overweight. New research has found that too much trans fats in your diet can effect your fertility. I've been cutting them out of my diet for several months now but it's in heaps of store bought food and pretty much all takeaway food. If you want info on this google trans fat & fertility. You will be amazed at what you find.
Kiwigirl - who really knows how early you can tell. It's all in hindsight afterall. When I was pg I had no clue I was until I went overdue and the two months after I m/c I had myself convinced I was only not to be. I don't think the early signs really mean anything until after you are late if that makes any sense.

Well I'm CD20 now 6DPO. My CM has now changed to lotiony. Felt really tired all day yesterday but that could be my cold. Had a headache yesterday.... probably also my cold. I have been extremely thirsty but that could also be the cold. I am dreaming really weird stuff and haven't been able to remember any dreams for months but these are really vivid so I'm remembering everything. One of the dreams was my SIL telling me that she thought she was pg. Another was going to the doctor to be checked out for having too much CM (I know a little odd) and when I came out the front of the surgery a gun man held me up & I told him not to shoot me as I was pg. Oddly I've been sensitive to smells even though I have a cold and am as stuffed up as. I had to search the house high and low for a flowery smell yesterday but couldn't find what it was until I opened my washing machine & it was my laundry liquid. I've also had to shut the garage door a couple of times as it opens on to our kitchen and my DF was smoking in there & I couldn't stand the smell of smoke.... I've never smelt smoke come in to the house from there before..... a bit weird. Trying not to get my hopes up as I know it's probably all in my head like it has been the last two cycles.

[Trying to be Postive]

I spoke to an OB the other day (DH's cousin - always good to talk to if I have Qs). She told me that 12% of Australian babies are now born by IVF! I was surprised at how high that is. And she reckons the m/c rate is more like 50% than the accepted 15-20%. She said half her patients have no idea when AF is due and often don't even realise they have had a m/c. She also reiterated how common m/c is and how good our chances are that it will work out eventually. She said she is very hopeful for me, and that medically, there is nothing to worry about, and that is probably why my FS hasn't done much, as nothing needs to be done. She reckons I would be the perfect obstetrics patient and that we have just been unlucky. I always feel so much better after I talk to her. She also said that, if the worse happens and we just keep m/cing (and this is really unlikely), then IVF with PGD is a really good way to go and will definitely get us pg with a healthy bub. I don't know if it helps anyone else reading this, but I thought it was all very positive and helpful.

This does give me some hope. I am trying not to feel down... but I am CD34 and no AF. On CD29 I had some light spotting and cramps and I thought, oh good here she comes... but NO nothing.... except lots of creamy greenish/yellow CM. I do have a cold and feel sick... but I did a test today and it was BFN (no surprise there).... but I thought that would bring AF out of hiding, but NO!

I know its only 4 days late so far... but I am worried she is not going to turn up for ages and I am going to be stuck with long cycles... Did anyone else find their cycles were longer after MC?

Hope you are all doing well... and Cherie26 - I hope those lines get stronger and you get your BFP!

[pash]

Cherie ooooh! That sounds very promising! that the lines get darker.

Satya Also very good signs that this is your month.

Positive How confusing. I hope it isn't just a late AF. Dunno if this helps or not, my first cycle after d/c was 31 days, exactly what it was before.

Went out last night & DH's best friend was hinting that I was pg again. DH pulled him aside to tell him that I wasn't and that if he wanted to know, he should just talk to us about it and ask if we were or not. Hinting & joking that we are pg just makes us feel bad, cos we're not. The guy got really uncomfortable & left, cos he's never actually talked to either of us about the m/c or ttc since my m/c. Maybe I expected more from him cos he's a nurse & one of life's sensitive men.

[Lee]

Hi lovely ladies,

Just saying hello

Had a much quieter weekend, recovering from last weekend!! It's nice to be married.

I'm only 5DPO, and OVER IT!!!!!!!! I really have to curb my impatience. I have to put it out of my mind!!!!!!!!!! AAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!! I have sore BBs, and have been feeling "hot, flushed" - but of course would never read anything into that LOL!!

OK, now thats out.

Yes, I can wait, I can, I can, I can

Sounds like there's some BFP coming in the next 2 weeks. I pray for us all.

Hope you all had a great weekend,

Hugs,

Lee xo

[satya]

Hi ladies,

Trying - I haven't had long cycles after m/c. My first one was 28 days then the next one was 24. Up to day 21 now and am hoping not to get AF at day 24 again.

Pash - I'm glad your DH had a chat with his friend. It must have been awkward, but at least he will not do it again now.



I'm up to CD21 7DPO now. CM has pretty much dried up now. I've had a dip in my chart that goes just below the coverline and then goes back up to my top temp after O. It will be interesting to see where it goes from here. Had a couple of abdo twinges last night but nothing much really. I still have my cold but it is much improved this morning.

[Sharon19270]

Good Morning Ladies

pash I did a bit of a google on overweight and m/c and there where a few sights that said it is possible for there to be an increased risk of m/c but not a certainty, but I think my dh is more worried about my health during and after pg if I put on too much extra weight. Glad that your DH set his bf straight, it's a shame that he then felt awkward and left.
cherie26 have you tested again? I really hope that line gets darker for you.
Trying for some women it can take longer for their AF to show up after a m/c, but I have found that since my m/c I now seem to be O'ing around CD 14 instead of CD 21 which I really don't mind, but my actual cycles have basically remained the same length, so hopefully once you get your 1st AF the rest of them will behave as normal.
Lee I am the queen of impatience so I know EXACTLY how you are feeling, you just have to be strong, and even though I know my chances of a pg are pretty slim this cycle I know I am going to read into EVERY single symptom I get over the next 2 weeks
satya things are sounding promising for you I will keep my for you
Salt how are you going love? I'm worried about you

Well I am 3dpo today, and even though I am not feeling very hopeful for this cycle since our last BD was 3 days before O, but in saying that I searched FF for some charts with the same bd pattern (and similar age, >35) and there where 3 pages of them so maybe I not completely out, will just have to wait and see I suppose.

Found out last night that my neighbour (who is 40) is pg, they are expecting their 2nd, felt a little bit down after finding out because they have only been "trying" since my m/c.

[*las*]

Satya - I don't understand FF but hoping that all will turn out perfectly for you!

Lee - I'm also the most impatient person, makes it hard hey!

Sharon - Glad you found some similar charts to give you hope! Hope the next 12 days fly by!

Cherie - any further news from you??

My scan went beautifully this morning, suddenly have a nice big follie ready to pop and my lining is 8.7mm...perfect! Had a BT done just to make sure and will Trigger tomorrow night to make sure that follie does what it should. At the moment, transfer will be Friday.

How is everyone else going??

[shellbell]

HI ladies, I hope you don't mind me joining in. I have been wandering around the other TTC forums and thought I might stop in here. I had my first mc in April - I was only 5 weeks and no one in real life feels that I had a "real" miscarriage?? What is that supposed to mean?

Anyway, we are back on the bandwagon... much to DH's delight!

trying I have also found my cycles to be much longer after April. Last month was about 4 days longer and this month I have O'ed (i think?) 4 days later than I ever have. It is all a bit wierd!

[claireabel]

Hi girls

I'm new here too and have just been reading through the last six pages (phew!) to get to know you all and your stories. It sucks there are so many of us but how great to all have this support.

DH and i had a missed miscarriage alomost six weeks ago, with a d&c on anzac day. my obs didn't find any reason for what happened (a relief, but sad) and gave us the go-ahead to ttc right away, said there was no need to wait one cycle.

So... we did, and I'm now in the 2WW. i think though i might be pregnant and am panicking. what if i get my hopes up too high? I had a big chat to a good friend today and she said to wait another week or so, and if still no AF, get a blood test, then ask for an early scan to hopefully see a heartbeat. at the time that sounded like a great idea but there's a HPT loitering upstairs and i really want to use it. it's possible though it'd be positive from leftover HCG though isn't it? i just don't know what to do/think. i wish i could bury my head in the sand for the next few weeks.

Sorry for the self-centred post, i'm just confused and excited and petrified, so am getting it all out!

[Sharon19270]

*las* that is great news that your scan went so well, and that everything is how it should be before the transfer, I have my for you that everything goes to plan.
shellbell so sorry that you have to be in here, I think that some people may feel it isn't a 'real' m/c because it is so early on in the pgncy, they just have no idea, that it is a 'REAL' m/c and you are going to be having similar emotions and feelings of loss as other women who m/c later :hugs: I hope it doesn't take you too long to get your sticky bfp.
claireabel this forum (especially this thread) is a fantastic place, don't know how I would have survived my m/c & d&c without it. I am sorry that you have to join us here, your chart definitely looks promising, I suppose if it was me I would be testing with that hpt with FMU, I have been led to believe that if you have O'd then there shouldn't be any more hcg left in your system from your previous m/c, please correct me if I am wrong anyone. Good luck for when you do decide to test, whether it be with that hpt which is begging you to use it, or with a BT from the Dr.
Bun how are you going love? have you managed to steer clear of any hpt's? how many dpo are you now?

Hi to everyone else i've missed.

I am feeling very tired tonight, but that will be because 18 year old DS woke me at 3am needing to borrow the car as his 16 year old GF had just been kicked out of home, I then lay awake for the next hour waiting for them to come home. Luckily, her mother let her home tonight. Feel very sorry for her as both parents are alcoholics and her mother was in a drunken rage at the time, and even punched her in the face, makes me want to cry. So nighty night all, will be back tomorrow.

[pash]

Satya - When are you going to test?
Sharon - DH's best friend is ok. He didn't leave leave, just like walked away to another conversation.

I think its natural to compare yourself to other ppl who seem to fall pg without having to try very hard. Or even just pg ppl around you. Hope you feel better about your neighbour & that it will be your turn soon. If only we could look into the future and know that in 3 months we'd be pg. Then we could stop stressing & have a good time. Have I said that before? Dunno. Think it often.

Pretty rough what your DS's gf is going through. So young to have to be self-reliant. Hard to know what to do in those situations. Maybe let her know somehow that she can call Kids Helpline and just talk, or get advice on her situation totally anonymously & free. So there is no risk of splitting up her family or anything. Also, jsut like its easier to open up to strangers here, its easier to open up to strangers on the phone.

Las - Good news about the lining & follicle. Good luck with the timing & everything.
Shellbell - Welcome. I think people who haven't been thru it often don't understand. Its all about hopes & dreams & the thought that you've made a little person, and you can fit plenty of that into 5 weeks. Its hard when that comes crashing down, not to mention the crashing hormones.
Clairabel - That's really exciting. All sounds very good so far. Do you have a reason to hold off testing? (really hippocritical cos I'm not testing unless Af is at least 4-6 days late, but that's cos I'm cheap & scared).
Lee - I hear you. I really really just want to know, but only if I am pg. Otherwise, I don't want to know at all.

AF was due today. So if she hasn't come by Sat or Sun, I am going to test. I'm getting really excited and my hopes are scarily high. I wish I could just ignore it & get on with life, but I keep wondering if I am pg. Even though my symptoms aren't very convincing. I don't know how I am going to occupy myself till the weekend, unless of course AF shows up.

[TwoMums]

Well we're back from our Day 11 appointment and the scan revealed only one follicle and it was only 12mm. Our doc said it wasnt a very good response considering last time she had 3 follicles at 1 x 16mm and 2 x 14mm. Her lining was a little thin as well. We umm'd and ahh'd and he ended up giving her a jab of 100iu Gonal-F right there and then and gave us the rest of the vial to take home. She is to have 100iu each morning for the next 2 days and then we go back for another scan on Friday to see if the follicle is going to get bigger and maybe if we are lucky, get another follicle happening. He thought he saw another one there but wasn't real sure. She had bloods done so that will be helpful to see how mature that little eggie is at this stage.

Kim was a bit disappointed after she had read alot about being super fertile after a miscarriage. But as he said it only takes one egg and the powers that be say to only aim for one follicle if doing IUI with FSH. The extra fertility is more attributed to your body being more 'accepting' of another pregnancy if you have recently been pregnant.

So after Friday we will either trigger that night for IUI on Sunday or trigger Saturday night for IUI on Monday. I just knew this cycle was going to drag out. My gut tells me this cycle probably wont work and the next one will be better. I truly believe that after you have been stimulated with either Clomid or FSH, the next cycle delivers a better response. Like your ovaries have to be kick started and they are ready to perform the next time. Kim's first IUI she only had one maybe two follicles. The very next cycle she got 3 follicles, so i really think its a little bit accumulative.

Hope everyone is going well, i just finished night shift and am off to bed now, i hope everyone has a great day!

[kiwigirl]

Hi everyone,

Well FF says I'm 3DPO and my temps seem to indicate that just haven't had any EWCM this cycle so I'm a little confused but we BDed 3 times on/before O so hopefully if I did O it worked

Good luck pash with not getting AF this cycle

Hi to everyone else!

[*las*]

Morning

Clairable - so sorry to hear of your loss. Hope this 2WW flies by with a wonderful result at the end. How many DPO are you??

Sharon - Hope your DS's G/F is ok?? Sounds like a pretty yucky environment to be in Hope you managed to catch up on some sleep. How are you feeling otherwise?

Pash - Good luck! Any sign of anything definate one way or the other yet??

Megan - Hope the rest of the cycle goes ok. Long cycles are frustrating. I'm doing a Clomid FET, and I've only just got my surge today, so won't O until tomorrow - which is CD19 (about standard for me, on the odd cycle I do O). Good luck!

Kiwigirl - Good luck! Sounds like you had all days covered, hope the 2WW goes quickly for you!

Salt - :hugs: Just lots and lots of these for you hun.

Finally got my surge this morning, have to ring the clinic Thursday arvo to get time for Transfer, which will definately be Friday. I was sooo excited - just because I O'd..LOL! Drank my pineapple juice this morning and have been having green tea, fingers crossed it helps!

Hi to everyone else