Well last night i got home and took a HPT (Lullaby conseptions off the net) and got a very faint second line in the time. Got excited because i have already tested with this brand and when you get a BFN there is no sign of a second line not even an evap! so this morning i did another one and again got a very faint (not as faint as last nights) second line! It is the 10ml one so it is very early which means I did ovulate when I was cramping and had the light spotting and we BD then just in case. I am going to test again in two days to make sure and that the line it getting darker! Keep your fingers crossed for me!
Cherie - contrats on the BFPs. Things are looking very good for you this month. What CD are you at now? I also get O pains but not spotting at O. I'm thinking that maybe what you are describing could have been implantation. In answer to your question because my m/c's have both been really early I hadn't been to an OB yet so I've just been seeing my GP. I have now been referred on & am seeing a gyno in a week and a half. He apparently has an interest in infertility so I guess I will see how that all goes.
Bun Very interesting stats the OB gave you there. I'm glad they made you feel more positive.
Pash - your symptoms are sounding very positive.
Sharon & Belinda - Extra weight can have an effect on fertility but for some reason it is only in some women. I also have extra weight on. Some doctors suggest that you lose weight before trying IVF because the weight could be the problem and you could be wasting your time. One thing I know is that bigger ladies are far more likely to end up with diabetes whilst pg. I know several women who've had this and they were all overweight. New research has found that too much trans fats in your diet can effect your fertility. I've been cutting them out of my diet for several months now but it's in heaps of store bought food and pretty much all takeaway food. If you want info on this google trans fat & fertility. You will be amazed at what you find.
Kiwigirl - who really knows how early you can tell. It's all in hindsight afterall. When I was pg I had no clue I was until I went overdue and the two months after I m/c I had myself convinced I was only not to be. I don't think the early signs really mean anything until after you are late if that makes any sense.
Well I'm CD20 now 6DPO. My CM has now changed to lotiony. Felt really tired all day yesterday but that could be my cold. Had a headache yesterday.... probably also my cold. I have been extremely thirsty but that could also be the cold. I am dreaming really weird stuff and haven't been able to remember any dreams for months but these are really vivid so I'm remembering everything. One of the dreams was my SIL telling me that she thought she was pg. Another was going to the doctor to be checked out for having too much CM (I know a little odd) and when I came out the front of the surgery a gun man held me up & I told him not to shoot me as I was pg. Oddly I've been sensitive to smells even though I have a cold and am as stuffed up as. I had to search the house high and low for a flowery smell yesterday but couldn't find what it was until I opened my washing machine & it was my laundry liquid. I've also had to shut the garage door a couple of times as it opens on to our kitchen and my DF was smoking in there & I couldn't stand the smell of smoke.... I've never smelt smoke come in to the house from there before..... a bit weird. Trying not to get my hopes up as I know it's probably all in my head like it has been the last two cycles.
HI ladies, I hope you don't mind me joining in. I have been wandering around the other TTC forums and thought I might stop in here. I had my first mc in April - I was only 5 weeks and no one in real life feels that I had a "real" miscarriage?? What is that supposed to mean?
Anyway, we are back on the bandwagon... much to DH's delight!
trying I have also found my cycles to be much longer after April. Last month was about 4 days longer and this month I have O'ed (i think?) 4 days later than I ever have. It is all a bit wierd!
I'm new here too and have just been reading through the last six pages (phew!) to get to know you all and your stories. It sucks there are so many of us but how great to all have this support.
DH and i had a missed miscarriage alomost six weeks ago, with a d&c on anzac day. my obs didn't find any reason for what happened (a relief, but sad) and gave us the go-ahead to ttc right away, said there was no need to wait one cycle.
So... we did, and I'm now in the 2WW. i think though i might be pregnant and am panicking. what if i get my hopes up too high? I had a big chat to a good friend today and she said to wait another week or so, and if still no AF, get a blood test, then ask for an early scan to hopefully see a heartbeat. at the time that sounded like a great idea but there's a HPT loitering upstairs and i really want to use it. it's possible though it'd be positive from leftover HCG though isn't it? i just don't know what to do/think. i wish i could bury my head in the sand for the next few weeks.
Sorry for the self-centred post, i'm just confused and excited and petrified, so am getting it all out!
*las* that is great news that your scan went so well, and that everything is how it should be before the transfer, I have my for you that everything goes to plan. shellbell so sorry that you have to be in here, I think that some people may feel it isn't a 'real' m/c because it is so early on in the pgncy, they just have no idea, that it is a 'REAL' m/c and you are going to be having similar emotions and feelings of loss as other women who m/c later :hugs: I hope it doesn't take you too long to get your sticky bfp. claireabel this forum (especially this thread) is a fantastic place, don't know how I would have survived my m/c & d&c without it. I am sorry that you have to join us here, your chart definitely looks promising, I suppose if it was me I would be testing with that hpt with FMU, I have been led to believe that if you have O'd then there shouldn't be any more hcg left in your system from your previous m/c, please correct me if I am wrong anyone. Good luck for when you do decide to test, whether it be with that hpt which is begging you to use it, or with a BT from the Dr. Bun how are you going love? have you managed to steer clear of any hpt's? how many dpo are you now?
Hi to everyone else i've missed.
I am feeling very tired tonight, but that will be because 18 year old DS woke me at 3am needing to borrow the car as his 16 year old GF had just been kicked out of home, I then lay awake for the next hour waiting for them to come home. Luckily, her mother let her home tonight. Feel very sorry for her as both parents are alcoholics and her mother was in a drunken rage at the time, and even punched her in the face, makes me want to cry. So nighty night all, will be back tomorrow.
Satya - When are you going to test? Sharon - DH's best friend is ok. He didn't leave leave, just like walked away to another conversation.
I think its natural to compare yourself to other ppl who seem to fall pg without having to try very hard. Or even just pg ppl around you. Hope you feel better about your neighbour & that it will be your turn soon. If only we could look into the future and know that in 3 months we'd be pg. Then we could stop stressing & have a good time. Have I said that before? Dunno. Think it often.
Pretty rough what your DS's gf is going through. So young to have to be self-reliant. Hard to know what to do in those situations. Maybe let her know somehow that she can call Kids Helpline and just talk, or get advice on her situation totally anonymously & free. So there is no risk of splitting up her family or anything. Also, jsut like its easier to open up to strangers here, its easier to open up to strangers on the phone.
Las - Good news about the lining & follicle. Good luck with the timing & everything. Shellbell - Welcome. I think people who haven't been thru it often don't understand. Its all about hopes & dreams & the thought that you've made a little person, and you can fit plenty of that into 5 weeks. Its hard when that comes crashing down, not to mention the crashing hormones. Clairabel - That's really exciting. All sounds very good so far. Do you have a reason to hold off testing? (really hippocritical cos I'm not testing unless Af is at least 4-6 days late, but that's cos I'm cheap & scared). Lee - I hear you. I really really just want to know, but only if I am pg. Otherwise, I don't want to know at all.
AF was due today. So if she hasn't come by Sat or Sun, I am going to test. I'm getting really excited and my hopes are scarily high. I wish I could just ignore it & get on with life, but I keep wondering if I am pg. Even though my symptoms aren't very convincing. I don't know how I am going to occupy myself till the weekend, unless of course AF shows up.
Well we're back from our Day 11 appointment and the scan revealed only one follicle and it was only 12mm. Our doc said it wasnt a very good response considering last time she had 3 follicles at 1 x 16mm and 2 x 14mm. Her lining was a little thin as well. We umm'd and ahh'd and he ended up giving her a jab of 100iu Gonal-F right there and then and gave us the rest of the vial to take home. She is to have 100iu each morning for the next 2 days and then we go back for another scan on Friday to see if the follicle is going to get bigger and maybe if we are lucky, get another follicle happening. He thought he saw another one there but wasn't real sure. She had bloods done so that will be helpful to see how mature that little eggie is at this stage.
Kim was a bit disappointed after she had read alot about being super fertile after a miscarriage. But as he said it only takes one egg and the powers that be say to only aim for one follicle if doing IUI with FSH. The extra fertility is more attributed to your body being more 'accepting' of another pregnancy if you have recently been pregnant.
So after Friday we will either trigger that night for IUI on Sunday or trigger Saturday night for IUI on Monday. I just knew this cycle was going to drag out. My gut tells me this cycle probably wont work and the next one will be better. I truly believe that after you have been stimulated with either Clomid or FSH, the next cycle delivers a better response. Like your ovaries have to be kick started and they are ready to perform the next time. Kim's first IUI she only had one maybe two follicles. The very next cycle she got 3 follicles, so i really think its a little bit accumulative.
Hope everyone is going well, i just finished night shift and am off to bed now, i hope everyone has a great day!
Well FF says I'm 3DPO and my temps seem to indicate that just haven't had any EWCM this cycle so I'm a little confused but we BDed 3 times on/before O so hopefully if I did O it worked
Hello everyone, I posted a message last week and haven't had a chance to come back again since then, soo many posts to read on here too! AF arrived for me today, but had a feeling that I wasn't pg this month anyway. First month of clomid for me this month so hopefully I will have more luck this coming cycle. I went to my gyno and got the all clear from my tests, apparently all the tests came back normal so there is no real reason why I have m/c twice - just bad luck. I also had BT done on D21 of this cycle and apparently they were really good and showed that I had o this month so all is looking reasonable positive. Tests also came back for DH and apparently he is a bit low sperm count and poor mobility also but they said they didn't get his sample to the lab within 2 hours so that may not be entirely accurate? You would think they would make sure those sort of things do get there on time, they are messing with our very important information! Went to a physic on Saturday and she predicted that I would find out that I was pg by Aug this year so I am feeling pretty happy about it. She seemed to be pretty spot on with alot of other things she said so fingers crossed! She even predicted that it would be a girl and she would be premmie!
Sorry for such a selfish post all about myself but I feel as though there is so much I need to say, will try to come on here more often!
Hi - thought you might find this research interesting reading.. here's their findings in short:
The probability of conception ranged from 0.1, when intercourse occurred five days before ovulation, to 0.33, when intercourse occurred on the day of ovulation. The probability of conception was highest with daily intercourse (0.37) and dropped to 0.15 with untimed intercourse once a week. Increased frequency of intercourse did not lower fertility, disputing the belief that frequent intercourse will decrease the potency of semen.
Kiwigirl, that makes sense. When I am about to O, my FS tells us to DTD everyday around that time. His theory is quality, not quantity, since it only takes 1 spermie to get to the egg and it's better to be a fresh spermie rather than a 2 or 3 day old one.
My god, there's so much going on in this thread that my head's spinning!
14DPO for me today and still no AF, although my temp did drop a little bit. i just can't get it out of my head. i usually get AF on 12DPO, so am hopeful this month. I almost tested this morning but didn't as i didn't think i'd be able to cope with the result - a -ive would be crushing and a +ive would leave me thinking it's false. I'll give it a few more days i think - DH wants to test thurs if no AF by then.
Pash, i know exactly how you feel! i just want to ignore the possibility of a pregnancy too, but it's impossible! My fingers are crossed for you.
Sharon thanks for the support. BD'ing three days before O still gives you guys great chances, esp for a little girl! good luck.
Shellbell i can't believe people would say it wasn't a real m/c because you were five weeks. the loss of a bubba is the loss of a bubba, no matter when it occurred. 5 weeks might seem a short time but the attachment you form is no less. Some people just don't get it.
Megan - good luck to you both with this cycle.
Kiwigirl - hello! nice to see you in the TTC thread as opposed to te waiting for AF one! Good luck with the 2WW. i didn't find this one as hard as last time (up until the last day or two) b/c i was so cautious of getting my hopes up. i didn't get a lot of EWCM this cycle either, and i normally get loads, so maybe it has something to do with the d&c? good luck.
Las - good luck! hopefully the green tea and pineapple juice will bring great results.
Bun - you sounds like you're in a great state of mind - i wish i was as calm! good luck with th next few days.
TimNik - how exciting! i rang a psychic after my mc b/c i just wanted 'answers', but can't get in until end of june. one of my girlfriends went to see her after her m/c and she knew all about the m/c and predicted she was pg (she was, just over 2 weeks!) and that she'd have a little girl then a little boy! hopefully we'll be hearing good news from you soon, august isn't that far away!
Salt i'm so sorry you're not feeling great. it's so hard being at the wrong end of your cycle. i hope it happens soon for you.
Lee - not too much longer to go for you. i laughed at the pyscho-analysis thing, that's me to a tea! i'm in a shocker of a mood today and am wondering if it's pms or pg hormones!
Speak soon girls, good luck to everyone in the 2WW and earlier on in their cycles.
2mums - Like you said, it only takes one egg (and a little spermie), so fingers crossed that Kim's egg is the one, and maybe the super fertility powers will help it stick. BTW, had no idea follicles were so big. Alyways thought they'd be only visible under a microscope. Sorry for being so ignorant & showing it Rachael - hmm... thats a bit confusing. I read somewhere that its possible to have more than one patch of EWCM in a cycle, and that you don't necessarily O at them all. Tho dunno what it means when the temps don't match the CM. Maybe just keep up the BD ;P DH should like that. Salt - You are such a sweetheart. Hope you're feeling better. Maybe its a good thing that you care less about trying. Maybe it will happen when you least expect it. You might get all the joy without the anxiety. Las - That's great news! Wonder if the shops are noticing a higher demand for pineapple juice & green tea? TimNik - I suppose it must be good to know that everything is ok medically, and that it was just bad luck. Hopefully that will ease your mind when you do fall pg. V interesting about the psychic. A lady did my numbers a few years ago & predicted my first child at 30yrs. Not true or false yet, but just thought I'd share. Hope your predictions come true. Lee - Not too long to wait now! You're past halfway. Shoegal - What are you upto? I like the quality not quantity explanation BTW. Will have to tell DH about needing fresh spermies!
Bun - Your attitude is SOOOOO good! Maybe all the jabs are acting as acupunture and having a calming effect? Seriously though, I think you have a great attitude, and I wish some of your calm & patience would rub off on me.
My BBs get a bit sore & lumpy (sounds lovely doesn't it) about 3-5 days before AF & during. But when pg (though at about 6 weeks on) they really really hurt. Especially in the fruit & veg section of the supermarket where its colder. But if you don't usually get sore BBs, I'd see that as a good sign.
Claireabel - I know EXACTLY what you mean. Pulling my hair out (literally, the shower drain is blocked cos of my hair, and the plumber has left the shower in an unusable state so extra deodorant 2moro, sorry for the sidetrack). Really really want to know now, but don't think I can cope with a BFN.
I feel like a different person to the rational woman that I was at the start of the 2WW. I have no signs that I might be pg. No sore BBs. Not peeing loads. Even the zits have calmed down. Only AF is 1 day late & I am convinced that I might be pg. Sort of, ok, not convinced at all.
Dunno if I should test and know now. Or if I should wait (for what?! I forget what I wanted to wait for?). Is it better to get a BFN now, or AF later?
*arrrgh* I'm going crazy! Once upon a time I used to be able to focus on things other than TTC
Sharon - Don't you just hate friends & neighbours announcing pregnancies when they haven't been trying long. Another of my favourites is the people who are having serious relationship problems that suddenly turn up pregnant.
Las - good luck with the transfer.
shellbell - I'm sorry for your loss. Regardless of how far along you were it was a real loss. I've had two early losses (10 years apart) so I understand.
Clairabel - Welcome. I am sorry for your loss. What cycle day are you on? Don't stress too much about being pg. It's quite common after m/c to think that you are again when you are not..... just ask any of us in here.
Pash - I might test tomorrow - 10DPO but I'm trying to hold off. I Can't believe you haven't tested. I would have caved in ages ago.
Twomums - Try to remember that it's still better to have one follicle than to have none at all. I hope all goes well this cycle.
Bun - Things are sounding very positive for you this cycle. Good luck with the BT if you have it.
Timnik - I hope the psychic is right about a pregnancy but I hope they are wrong about it being a premmie. You don't need that added stress.
Salt - I hope your AF disappears soon.
Lee - Some women do get skin breakouts with early pregnancy but I get them most months mid cycle and around AF time so I can't look at that as a sign. I hope your TWW goes really fast.
Sorry to anyone I've missed. It's now CD23 9DPO for me. My tiredness has continued. My cold is almost gone. Just have a stuffy nose now and the odd bout of coughing. I've now had two dips in my chart and my temp has now gone up above other temps this cycle. I can't really read anything into it though as I have been sick and have coughed heaps so my temps could have been affected. Last night I had to get up twice to use the loo, on Monday night I had to get up 6 times. I had been drinking heaps of water on Monday so that could account for that, but yesterday's water consumption was pretty normal. In the 24 hours between 9.30pm Monday & 9.30pm Tuesday I peed 20 times... yes I counted... I couldn't help myself after the 6 trips during the night. I'm hoping that this is a good sign and not just part of my cold.... I guess only time will tell. I've also had a couple of days of bleeding gums when I brush my teeth. My BBs are not sore but my tiny dog jumped on my chest yesterday and the pain was huge.
I am so trying not to get my hopes up. The last two cycles I had things I saw as symptoms but they died down in week 4 so I guess they are my O symptoms. Now I'm trying to blame everything on my cold so I don't get excited. That said, I may test tomorrow. My last cycle was a 24 day one so I think it should be OK to test on CD24. I'd like to hold out until I actually go overdue at CD28 (if I do) but I don't think I can hold out. I have some of the LC early instream tests so I might just do it tomorrow am.
Nikilove - so sorry to hear about your baby boy. It must be so hard thinking what would have been this month. . Feel free to post in here anytime you want. We are all here for you.
Salt - sorry to hear that you are feeling down. This process really is such a rollercoaster. I think it's good that you have a plan to see Mike if you don't conceive in the next couple of months. I am sure he will be able to help you if it comes to that. I get v jealous of women who have trouble-free pregnancies too, and don't even realise how lucky they are.
Nicole - happy birthday! I think it's good that you are quite casual about the whole TTC process. The trouble with trying to get in tune with your body is that you constantly look for signs or symptoms and drive yourself crazy!! I'm glad all your test results came back normal. Sometimes it seems hard to believe that 2 losses in a row can just be bad luck, but it can be and is in both our cases. With clomid, my clinic makes me have a BT on day 2 of my cycle to check that my hormones are at baseline levels before they will let me start taking it. Do you have someone you can call and ask?
shellbell - it really is awful how some people treat it like it's not a real loss. They have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. My FIL told me that in their day, they would not even have known about a pregnancy when I lost mine, I'm like - and what difference does that make? And anyway, he has no idea what he is talking about!! I got really angry because my first loss was a lot later and there is no way you would not know what was going on if you saw what I saw, but the second loss, although I was only 5w 3d and wasn't as traumatic physically, it still hurt just as much. I know it sounds awful, but sometimes I wish the people who make these comments would go through this too just so they would know how awful it really is and to get them to stop making such horrible comments ever again.
Lee - a skin breakout can definitely be a symptom due to all the hormones running around. I just never know when I am looking too much into things! Good luck!
satya - have you tested yet??
pash - it can be soooo hard not to test!! My attitude seems to change daily. I am quite happy and calm atm, but it could change in 5 mins. I try and remind myself of the good things of not being pg, like eating and drinking what you like, having more money, etc, it doesn't make it ok, but I like to try and concentrate on these things if I can. And I also think that it will happen eventually, we just have no control over when. I can't believe you are late and still haven't tested!
claireabel - have you tested yet? Your chart looks fantastic! I reckon you are pg.
Hi to everyone I have missed.
I have decided I am not going to get the BT done tomorrow. I will have to ph the clinic and tell them (or they ph and hassle me when the results don't come in when expected), and I am sure they will tell me off, but I don't care. It is difficult to know when AF is due, as clomid can change your LP, but I don't want to be testing until at least 15DPO, actually I would rather wait til 19DPO, but I will see how I go. I am quite happy to just wait. We have finally decided that after our holiday in Spain we will spend the last 5 days in Paris before coming home. I can't wait! We are also going to go to Eurodisney. I figure if I am not pg, I will be able to go on more rides and eat and drink to my hearts content, so what does it matter if I am pg or not? Both are good, and if I'm not, then we just try again next month.
Well I'm CD20 now 6DPO. My CM has now changed to lotiony. Felt really tired all day yesterday but that could be my cold. Had a headache yesterday.... probably also my cold. I have been extremely thirsty but that could also be the cold. I am dreaming really weird stuff and haven't been able to remember any dreams for months but these are really vivid so I'm remembering everything. One of the dreams was my SIL telling me that she thought she was pg. Another was going to the doctor to be checked out for having too much CM (I know a little odd) and when I came out the front of the surgery a gun man held me up & I told him not to shoot me as I was pg. Oddly I've been sensitive to smells even though I have a cold and am as stuffed up as. I had to search the house high and low for a flowery smell yesterday but couldn't find what it was until I opened my washing machine & it was my laundry liquid. I've also had to shut the garage door a couple of times as it opens on to our kitchen and my DF was smoking in there & I couldn't stand the smell of smoke.... I've never smelt smoke come in to the house from there before..... a bit weird. Trying not to get my hopes up as I know it's probably all in my head like it has been the last two cycles.
for you that everything goes to plan.
You are such a sweetheart. Hope you're feeling better. Maybe its a good thing that you care less about trying. Maybe it will happen when you least expect it. You might get all the joy without the anxiety.
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