TTC after Recurrent Miscarriage/Stillbirth or Loss After the First Trimester
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Welcome to the new thread Lovelies. You can catch up on the previous one HERE
Well hello everyone. So sorry that I have been MIA. A birth I was asked to attend happened a few weeks earlier than anticipated! It was a very looooong labour of 27 hours. The end result was the birth of a very gorgeous little girl to a Mama that laboured so beautifully. She had no intervention - but we all needed some kips afterward! Then it was our Evie's birthday yesterday and we had a party of course with lots of little friends.
My DH is at a training day today as he is to be the Under 8's Footy coach this year - so I am trying to catch up on Belly Belly news and do some other work at the same time!
Mel - implantation occurs between 5-10dpo - 5-8dpo being thought the "usual". I have heard women report "implantation" cramping but I have never experienced it. Women say it feels similar to period pain. It IS TOO EARLY TO TEST!!!! So don't feel down about a bfn. Try and wait it out my love until around 12dpo. This way it is likely that you will get a positive on a good quality early testing kit. I know it's hard I do - I am in the tww too. It sucks. Let's hope this time next week we have news of a for us both!
Spring: If you know when you posted if you could copy and past the url and email it to me I will fix it up for you. YIPPEE at feeling Lil Spring move about! In a month or so you will be feeling more movement that will reassure you no end. I hope you are feeling okay...
[B]Lynn:[/B] I haven't forgotten your moonstone - it's coming - I did get a message on my machine to say they weren't in yet but would be in this week so I will get it to you ASAP. How are you feeling???? I know it is a real bummer at your results. I am imagining they didn't do a follie scan with the levels as they were... Are you having more bloods done tomorrow? Just remember we are all here and we are all barracking fo you. This is going to happen and you are getting direction and information that you haven't previously had. That is a wonderful thing... Big big hugs from me :hugs:
Bailey Yippee to you being a WIFE!!!! Congratulations Bailey - I hope you can top off the month with a bfp as well!!! Ovulation pain for me is like a sharp pain on and off over a period of 24ish hours. Some women only get an ache but it does feel different to period pain for me. Some women get the pain only once and others for a day or so.
Nat: How are things my love...
Chelle: Good on you for the walk - I love it when parents do this type of thing. It really does show kids that life isn't as easy in other places as we have it here. One of my dreams is to take our kids to India for 3 months working on an aid project. I will work and my DH will be with the kids . This is how we plan to spend his long service leave in a couple of years time.
Where are you up to in your cycle Chelle?
I have to have my progesterone level done tomorrow - 9dpo. So, I will be interested to see what that is - I won't get the result until Tuesday morning. Of course I am hoping and praying that I have conceived but I just have to WAIT!!!!! I am not going to test until Thursday morning - I am not going to do my head in... I feel like I always feel post ovulation. I must say pregnant or not I feel exactly the same in the tww - so it's no indication for me.
I hope you are all having a beautiful weekend - when the kidlets wake up we are off to clean out the chookie pen - woo hoo!!!!! We have got two eggs so far!!!! Very exciting.
Wow flowerchild, you have been busy. I didn't know you attend births. Was it as a friend or as a Doula/nurse? What a long birth, 27 hours and natural, that woman and her support team definatley deserve a kip. How was Evie's birthday? No wonder you have been MIA. Best of luck for Tuesday, does that mean that your TWW is almost over? Glad to see you back anyway hun, enjoy chooks, I hope there are some warm fresh eggs waiting for your and the clan when you get there. Might be quiche for dinner.
Mel: Wow, kidney stones blasted, that sounds ouchie. I know how a general can knock you around. I hope she is feeling better. I am sure as she sees her gorgeous daughter Mel she will feel heaps better. You know how you talk about the movements being the most wonderful feeling, to be honest, I never had it with Harry. Every time he moved instead of being excited that he was growing, I was like phew there's a movement, thank God he is still alive. I think it goes hand in hand with the other feelings of dread I had in my first pregnancy. I am actually looking forward to feeling movements this time, so fingers crossed it happens soon.
Anyway, I need chocolate, so I am finally giving in and going to get some and make a pig of myself.
I was in the role of "brith attendant". It's the best role ever. Just there for a family and their baby. She is a friend now but I didn't know her before her pregnancy. She contacted me as she wanted some continuity and support that couldn't be offered through the service she was birthing in.
Anyway I must get out of here - I will pop back later!!!!
Spring - I love your new ticker. I hope we can all have a pregnancy tickers too soon. That's great that you are starting to feel lil spring jumping around in there. It's the best feeling isn't it. Also, congrat's on reaching your halfway mark with DH eing away. It'll go quick from here for sure.
Mel - Sorry about the BFN, but Flowerchild seems to know what's going on and if she says it's too early, then I would definately take her word for it and try not to test for a few more days. I hope you still get to send those good news easter cards yet. I hope your mum is ok.
Lynn - How are you doing today?
Flowerchild - Wow, I don't know if I could be a birth attendant, I was having a hard enough time at my own babies birth's and they were c-sections. Wow, to labour all that time and have no intervention, that's a tough cookie. Thanks for the info on ovulation, I'm not sure if that is what I was feeling. I have never really paid too much attention to what my body is doing, but now I feel like I have to, every little niggle or pain is making me take notice.
Hi to Dream and Chelle too!
Well, D-now-H is off tomorrow for his trip, so me and my monster will be on our own for 12 days Nah, we have good fun together. But that probably means that you guys will be hearing a lot more from me!! We have been tryong to DTD as much as possible (TMI I know, but we ARE in a TTC thread after all) so I am crossing everypart of me that I possibly can that I get that BFP this month. to everyone and to Spring
Lynn - Havent seen you around this weekend so I hope you are ok :hugs:
Spring - I know you didnt get the good feelings that come with pregnancy with Harry and Pumpkin, and I think it is such a shame. I know this pregnancy will be stressful but try to enjoy it for the wonderful thing it is - you have a little life inside of you that you have every right to enjoy. They really arent in their for long so cherish every movement you feel. I used to get so frustrated when Nicholas would boot me in the ribs cause it hurt but god I would love to feel that again. I really hope you get some moments of enjoyment out of this pregnancy with lil Spring, especially when everything is so different this time and that has to mean the outcome will be totally different. Although the real enjoyment will start when you get to meet him/her in the flesh
Deb - You have been a busy little beaver! The TWW is a s@@@ isnt it, but I promise I will try to hold off testing until Saturday - then if I am lucky enough to get a BFP I get to stay home and enjoy the good news with DH. I have for both of us to get BFPs next week, and for Lynn to O asap, and for the newlyweds to get a BFP too. I dont feel like I am pregnant at all though, no feelings of AF except for the cramping that one day, no sore or swollen boobies, nothing. Oh and also I think it is very admirable to be able to help women through their own births when all you want is one for yourself, I honestly dont think I could do it - but then I am bitter and twisted I think LOL.
Bailey - Thats no good that DH is going away, at least you have DS to keep you company - but I guess it not the same huh, especially in the night. But dont worry, we will keep you company Oh and I wouldnt worry about TMI, like you said this is a TTC thread so if anyone is shocked at the fact we happen to DTD from time to time, they are definitely in the wrong thread LOL.
Hi to all the others - Nat, Chelle, JLK, Michelle, Clare and everybody else,
Well my mum is good, they took us for a drive to see their block of land. They are building a house which has just been started so they wanted us to have a look.
Back to work tomorrow. I so wish I was a lady of leisure... but then on the other hand I was recently for a couple of weeks and I spent the whole week sitting around crying - so I will shut up and stop whinging!
Hi girls, well I just need to vent so just ignore me if you feel like it, I understand.
Well DH called earlier and said that his mum had called him. She asked if it would be ok to call me. Why she didn't just call me I will never know. It says to me that she knows she is in the wrong. What, so now that I am pregnant you want something to do with me????? Didn't I predict that she would kick into MIL of the year mode.
Well DH thought it was a good opportunity and told her how upset I was with her for basically falling off the face of the planet for the last 5 1/2 months. Apparently she got on the defensive and said 'well maybe some people don't know what to say'. WTF, stop thinking about yourself you self centered dim wit ..... It has been almost 6 months, to much time has passed for you to try to disguise your absence with some pathetic poor me excuses. I told DH I didn't want to talk to her and then I decided, why should I keep this inside. I was going to be polite but truthful about how I feel when she called. Well surprise surprise, it is 8.30pm and no call. I should have known. It would have made her too uncomfortable to actually own up to the fact that she has totally abandoned her son and DIL not to mention her grandson.
I am about to write a email to her. I just can't be bothered talking to her if she doesn't call tonight. I consider myself to be a fairly easy going and forgiving person, but being a cowardly self centered person doesn't rate very highly in my book.
Sorry for going on and on, my heart is racing and I just needed to vent.
Goodmorning everyone! Spring: Yes, it is a privilege to be invited into someone's birthing space. I LOVE it and it is an honour. I would love to do it as a business one day when my children are older. It is so very time consuming and I just haven't got the flexibility with small children. I have lots of plans - I would love to have a service that helps women from pre conception through to early parenting. I have a vision!!!
Your letter to your MIL sounded balanced and fair. Sometimes people no matter how much we want them to just can't give to us what we need. I am so sorry that you are feeling like this. I have spoken in here a little of my experience with my MIL so I do really understand. :hugs:
Lynn: Are you out there my love???? I am thinking of you and sending lots of ovulation vibes. Please come back!
Mel: How is the TWW - it's torturous isn't it? I hope that your comes this month sweetie. I don't find it hard - I am fortunate to have good birthing memories as well as the sad ones. I just hope I get to have another beautiful one to end my child bearing season...
Bailey: How are you going without DH around? Where are you up to in your cycle Bailey? Is it nearing testing time for you too???
Chelle and Nat: Hi there!
Well I am feeling pretty flat at the moment. I am nearing my last Angels EDD. As some of you know one of my close friends is due at the same time (a week apart). I am finding it a bit tough. I don't think I have conceived this month - just a feeling and I just want to get on the way to having a baby! I am 39 and my clock is donging in my ears each month that goes by. Anyway I will come back later when I am feeling less morose!
hi ladies, just wanted to say to Lynn, I may not be able to provide the support that I wish I could at this time but may the arms of your sisters at bb support you where you blood sister can not. its truly amazing to hear that there are wonderful people like you girls in this world.
O lynn, thats fantastic isnt it!!!I dont know much about measurements, but both sides firing, you may well be up to a very good weekend. Im very sorry to hear what you are going through, have been through a very similar situation, and I coped very badly!! big huge hugs.
Spring angel... O my goodness, I cannot believe step FIL deleted your personal from the heart letter....I think your attitude is bang on!! they are just not worth it! I hope you can focus on you and lil spring and all your good friends and DH of course...
Deb, Im on cd22... in the 2ww, one week to go, dont feel anything, infact for the first time in along time havent really put the focus into everything like I normally do... but this time next week I will know one way or another... sigh. How you doing? when is your testing day, did you get the results from your prog level test.... not sure If I have missed it in a post... If I have sorry!
well big hi to everyone else, O and in answer to what is a hikoi, its a term for journey where eveyone comes together, and where possible you walk... and walk we did and in this case we walked for all the starving people/children around the world. Yes it was very moving, over 1000 people all came together. Over 500 were children and they all sat in silence and ate a rice meal. My 2 girls age 10 and 11 took part! they did ok.I have no doubt repeated myself..oops sorry
Chow for now
Sorry been MIA between computers and family.......:throw_computer: .
Lynn I hope your feeling better today I will talk to you thurs. xxxx
Mel Im sending everything I can for a BFP and I to think it may be just a little early so hang out a little longer I know how hard this can be. Im glad to hear your mum is feeling better.
Bailey I tried to send a wedding wish Im so sorry my computer was not inaction!!! so Im glad to hear all went well and a big congrates on becoming MRS B Have a great day on Sunday and how long now till Bali? also hope that BFP gets to you soon.
Deb Babies, birthdays and maybe a BFP.....I do hope so much that you get it this month, you and I are so much alike I hope that the "I dont think it happen" turns out to be OMG it did. You know your body so well that sometimes it would be better to not know so much but Im still sending all my +++++vibes to you girls this month. Have you got the BT results yet?
Spring Your email was wonderful so stright to the point but in a good way, I hope step FIL will let her read it if not talk to her and let her know how things are. do you feel that a weight has been lifted? Great news on lit spring dancing around in there.... I couldnt be happier for you.
chelle wow on the walk, what a wonderful thing to do. You must be proud of your girls!
Clair Hows it all going? havnt heard from you in a while mind you I could have missed a post, trying to catch up in here is hard enough! Hope your well.
Well my Nans was ok, I made my girlfriend come with me, but it was very strange, she has an 18month old and when we were sitting on the lounge he was standing up lookin over the back to the kitchen and playing peak a boo and laughed with somebody.......I dont know but it freaked us out! I did feel a little comfort thinking that maybe she was still around......it was sort of nice in a weird way. I hope you all stay well and the BFP fairy is sending out her magic dust to you all.....I need some good news girls "come on"!!!!! I will try and get back later. Lots of hugs and luv to you all Nat xxx
Got results back from my BT this morning and it has gone down again! I am trying to stay positive in that it is only CD20 and last month I o'd on CD26. But I am just confused???? Deb or Nat can you tell me if this is normal or if my levels should be rising by now. The nurse that gave me the results said that my FS is concerned and he wants me to have another BT and u/s on Friday. He said that my body is probably not responding to Clomid I tried to speak with him but he wasn't available so I will call again tomorrow.
Lynn - How are you today? I have been thinking of you and Cooper all day. How did you find hitting the 4 month anniversay? I don't usually let the dates affect me, but I found that the 4 month was harder than the 3rd month. I don't know why, maybe because I also got AF that day too. I am sorry that your levels are all over the place, but as you said, you ovulate pretty late, so hopefully there is still a chance for this month. How are things with your family?
Spring - I am sort of shocked about FIL deleting your email. I think that it should be YOUR and DH's feelings that are important here, not hers. Oh well, I agree with what you said, there are more important things and I am glad that you are not going to let it bother you. You have to think of you and Lil Spring at the moment.
Mel - I am shocked that you are managing to stay away form those test's. I am glad you are though, as if it too early you are just saving yourself disapointment. I have my fingers crossed for you too.
Nat - My computer is stuffed too. There is something wrong with my drive, so I actually only have half a screen, lol, so I have to re-size everything to fit on the right hand side. I was meant to put it in to get fixed but I can't do without it, so mum is going to take it in while I am away. It was nice to hear that your nan is still around you, I always think that mine is too.
Hi too to everyone else
Well, DH (oooh, sounds weird calling him that) has been gone for 2 days now, and I had to take on a couple of his duties today. Picking up dog poop and watering his beloved lawn - though I did it all without a beer in my hand. It's actually quite amazing the stuff that man can do with a can of beer in is hand - who says men can't multi task huh? DS is a little sad though, everytiome he hears the side gate open (DH's brother lives in a granny flat out the back) he thinks it's his dad and runs to grab his little cricket bat and ball, poor bugger. Then I have to remind him that daddy is on holidays. DS says "daddy is in Baaaarley surfing in the pool" Lol.
I don't feel confident of a BFP this month, I just feel like it's not this time. It has been a little hard to come to terms with it, because I have always thought I would have a baby by this christmas, and I have to let that go now. I think I just really wanted this christmas to be so different to the last one. Last christmas, I wanted to be happy, but it felt so fake. I know you all know what I mean, as I am sure that it was the same for you too. DH and I have been trying so hard to create our own little familt traditions for DS so he can grow up and remember them as things he loved, but I just don;t want him to remember me being miserable and laying on the lounge in a daze crying. So I wanted this one to be different. Oh, I know I am babbleing now, so I will go and come back a little later.
Hey Lynn: sorry I can't be any help with your levels. All I know is that I am sending every little bit of O vibes I can muster your way. Also, I hope you don't mind adopting my friend and I today. It was such a nice day, I hope we managed to help lift your spirits, if only a little. Ps... I have a belly ache but no surprises there.
Klee: Babe I think of you and your angel Phoebe every day. How are you feeling? Stupid question I know, but are you feeling anymore constant. In those early weeks I just aimed to feel constant. I hope with all my heart that you are ok. Big :hugs: babe.
Chelle: you should be very proud of yourself for teaching your children about all the other children in the world who are less fortunate then them. It will make them more tolerant and accepting as they grow into young adults.
Dream: Welcome back spunk rat, missed you. I am glad that you had a friend with you at your nan's. Don't get too worried about the little boy playing peak-a-boo. I had a whole room of imaginary friends when I was a child. Perhaps there was more to it, and that your Nan's was poping in to check on you, but either way you know she is at peace with your GDad now.
Mel, Flowerchild, Mrs. Bailey and everyone else, hope you are all ok.
Well the MIL saga continues. She called again tonight, but I am screening my calls so she only got to speak to Mr. Answering machine. The message was 'I seem to keep missing you, perhaps you are working late or have gone to bed early'. Wake up to yourself, perhaps I don't want to talk to you after almost 6 months. Did that every cross your mind. Spoke to DH and said I didn't want to talk to her. He said leave the answering machine on, hopefully she will get the message soon although she did say she would try again later in the week .
I feel like a bit of a chicken not answering, but I honestly have nothing to say, and my attempt at resolution was the email which was deleted, so that is it from me.
Oh well, I am having an early one tonight, I am very tired tonight and have a big few days at work ahead of me. DH isn't home this weekend so I am going to get some girl flicks and spend it on the couch.
Might hang around for a little while longer but nighty ni to all of you in case I head off soon.
Sweet dreams and Lynn, hope the seed works but make sure you don't hurt your ear (lol), seriously though, I hope you have a wonderful, peaceful nights sleep.
Bailey, I just missed you hun. Don't give up on this month just yet, it is not over until the witch shows up. How cute is DS with dad surfing in Barrrley pool, that kid is just adorable. I hope you don't get too lonely without your DH but how excited must you be about your honeymoon / sausage sizzle (lol)
About Christmas, it is a major milestone and I can totally understand why you feel upset and why you want this christmas to be different. I don't know what to say to make it better. I am so very grateful for little Spring but it breaks my heart that such a wonderful supportive bunch of women are being deart such a hard blow month after month. All I can do is tell you that I care about you and send you as much I can muster.
Hi Ladies
Spring thank you, am going okay, most days go by in a blur, I wouldn't be able to tell you who I see most days or what was said.
Went to doc's today, have a skin infection my bodies way of coping with stress and the loss of Phoebe.
Monday is my 6 week check up, just hoping for the best with all the blood tests that were taken, after finding out Phoebe had passed but prior to us knowing it was a cord accident. I guess i'm thinking the worst of most situations at the moment.
Lynn, my wishes to Cooper for his 4 months. take care
Hi Everyone,
Sorry I have been around but just hadn't posted. I am feeling a bit flat at the moment and not the best of company!
It's a for me this month I am afraid... I will be okay in a few days but right now I am feeling not so wonderful! I am off to see my obs tomorrow - she wants to up my dose of clomid so we will see what next month brings...
I will pop in tomorrow and do personals - just feeling a little conscious of my absence!
TTC after Recurrent Miscarriage/Stillbirth or Loss After the First Trimester
for us both!
Yippee to you being a WIFE!!!! Congratulations Bailey - I hope you can top off the month with a bfp as well!!! Ovulation pain for me is like a sharp pain on and off over a period of 24ish hours. Some women only get an ache but it does feel different to period pain for me. Some women get the pain only once and others for a day or so. 
Wow, to labour all that time and have no intervention, that's a tough cookie. Thanks for the info on ovulation, I'm not sure if that is what I was feeling. I have never really paid too much attention to what my body is doing, but now I feel like I have to, every little niggle or pain is making me take notice.
Nah, we have good fun together. But that probably means that you guys will be hearing a lot more from me!! We have been tryong to DTD as much as possible (TMI I know, but we ARE in a TTC thread after all) so I am crossing everypart of me that I possibly can that I get that BFP this month.
to everyone and 
to Spring
for both of us to get BFPs next week, and for Lynn to O asap, and for the newlyweds to get a BFP too. I dont feel like I am pregnant at all though, no feelings of AF except for the cramping that one day, no sore or swollen boobies, nothing. Oh and also I think it is very admirable to be able to help women through their own births when all you want is one for yourself, I honestly dont think I could do it - but then I am bitter and twisted I think LOL.
..... It has been almost 6 months, to much time has passed for you to try to disguise your absence with some pathetic poor me excuses. I told DH I didn't want to talk to her and then I decided, why should I keep this inside. I was going to be polite but truthful about how I feel when she called. Well surprise surprise, it is 8.30pm and no call. I should have known. It would have made her too uncomfortable to actually own up to the fact that she has totally abandoned her son and DIL not to mention her grandson. 
Have a great day on Sunday and how long now till Bali? also hope that BFP gets to you soon.
I tried to speak with him but he wasn't available so I will call again tomorrow.
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for me this month I am afraid... I will be okay in a few days but right now I am feeling not so wonderful! I am off to see my obs tomorrow - she wants to up my dose of clomid so we will see what next month brings...
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