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    If you have found yourself in this forum you no doubt have had a painful journey. TTC after recurrent miscarriage/stillbirth or Late Loss takes special courage and support. The aim of this forum is to provide a place where women who have endured loss can share their stories, friendships, treatments and triumphs!

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    You will find the last thread HERE my lovelies

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    Lynn - for what you are going through. I am sorry I wasnt here to respond to you yesterday.

    First of all, I really hate that you are going through this and I feel so helpless cause I know there is nothing I can do or say to make it "better". I really agree with everything Spring and Alex have said. I think the decision to TTC is a very personal one and completely lies with you and DH to make that decision. Maybe if you do give it a rest for a little while magic will happen, but do you think you can? I mean I think I have gotten to know you pretty well and I worry that without the TTC journey and all of the focus it takes, as painful as it is getting kicked in the teeth every month, you will cope less well than you do now. Although, if you do feel that you cant go on maybe it is best to take a break. It is a bloody tough journey and I cant blame you at all for this struggle in your head. Maybe see how the Sids and Kids meeting makes you feel before you decide? Maybe they can help give you a different perspective on things? Maybe that support will make you feel like you can go? Or it may give you the strength to feel you can take a break? I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with making that decision and you would certainly not be a quitter - quite the opposite in fact, I think it takes a very strong person to want something so desperately but decide to wait to get their head right so if you decide to wait a while you should be absolutely proud of yourself not beating yourself up for quitting. And remember, you wouldnt be quitting forever just taking a break - it doesnt mean you have to lose sight of your dreams.

    In regards to continuing TTC but just not telling everyone else that you are, well I can only speak for myself but I know that every time I have to tell someone that AF has arrived so therefore I am not pregnant I feel like a total D***HEAD and such a failure - especially after those months when I say I have had cramping a few days into TWW and a few others symptoms so maybe I am pregnant - I feel like I stand there telling them with my tail between my legs yet again, also because I know how much everyone (especially my sister and mum) want me to be pregnant and I feel like I am letting them down when I say hey I failed again, and seeing the disappointment and sadness in their faces. I now dont tell them my cycle, they do know I am TTC still but I dont tell them my cycle because it just takes the pressure off a tiny bit. I dont know, does that resemble anything you feel month after month? If it does maybe it would be worth continuing to TTC and just letting your family think that you are taking a break, remember you will not have to go through it alone - firstly you have an amazing DH who is on this journey with you. And secondly you have all of us, you can share your ups and downs with us and you know we will always be there for you, and you know there are a few of us who are willing to drop everything if you needed to chat to someone or cry to someone and I am one of those people. On the other hand, if you want to include your mum, she is a great mum and I believe she can spread herself around between you and your older sister - you are right a divorce is a tough thing and you love your sister and want her to be supported as she supports you - your mum would find a way to be there for you and her and I hate to say but regardless of whether she thinks you are TTC she will worry day and night about you because you are her baby, and you always will be.

    Maybe it would be worth seeking a second opinion from another FS and discussing it with them? Go through your whole history, go through what has happened with this FS (which I am sorry to be blunt but I think your treatment there has been absolutely appalling) and how disheartened you have become, especially with what happened this month, tell them about your family problems and tell them how you want a baby so much but you cant continue to go through this agony of being picked up and them dropped down all the time. Maybe they can advise you of what to do? Maybe they can give you an idea of whether they think they can help you quickly or if they think it will be a long process? Maybe they can give you a little more confidence than this FS has? Maybe they will make you feel that they are with you on this journey which is a very important thing? I know you hold your OB in high esteem so maybe you could contact him and ask him to refer you for a second opinion, tell him what has happened and that it is breaking you? I am so confident that he will try to help you, from what you have told me he seems to really care about you, DH and Cooper and I think he would be mortified to know the treatment you have been receiving.

    I am so sorry for the long post but I wanted to put forward all of the points so that you make a well thought out decision, I just wish there was more I could do to help you. I wish I could take all of this hurt away and make you happy even just for one minute.

    If you need anything at all, you know how to find me - phone, email, SMS, MSN - I am very versatile

    :hugs: to you my friend and know that I am thinking of you.

    Love Mel

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    Big hugs Lynn :hugs:

    I agree with the others that the decision to continue TTC is one only you and your partner can make.
    I want to add that you will ALWAYS grieve your Angel Cooper. I am not so sure that time without TTC will make it any easier... It is awful each month getting your period and of course all of the issues you have had with your specialist just is not making this any easier. I think that the events of these past few days make it 10 fold more difficult. :hugs:
    I would urge you to seek out another specialist - someone who is caring and will give you some time. You need to feel safe and to feel heard. What I am hearing you say is that you are not getting these things from your current specialist.

    TTC after loss is traumatic. TTC after loss when you have some fertility challenges is even more so. :hugs: The drugs, the monitoring, the waiting, the levels it adds so very much to the stress. I believe you need a specialist who is both medically wonderful but has a personality to match. This will make the journey so so much easier. Many specialists will have a fertility counsellor on staff - these people can be great to debrief with not just about the fertility component but also about the death of Cooper.

    I have no doubt you will conceive another baby. You ovulated on your own this month and that is a wonderful thing! That beautiful body of yours may need a little nudge along - but your soul needs to be nurtured and respected by the medical team that help you with that nudge. YOU deserve that.

    This is tough. The decision is tough. Whatever you decide we will all be here to support you.

    Big big hugs

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    Wow its been very quiet in here today. I hope you are all having a nice Sunday - back to work tomorrow

    We have had a pretty quiet day today, went to see the mortgage broker and he said he thinks we will be able to get approval so we should hear from him tomorrow or Tuesday with an answer so

    We had a nice night last night and didnt get home til really late. OK so this is really embarrassing but I have to let it out cause it is consuming my thoughts and worries... on the TTC front, DH and I DTD last night when we got home, which I think was the most important night to do it, and it all just went really really bad - long story which is just TMI if I tell it but basically only a minimal amount of semen got inside me (OMG he would kill me if he knew I was telling you this). I have not idea what happened, it has never ever happened before. We are going to DTD again tonight and hopefully we havent buggered up the month but considering that last night was the night we had had a night in between DTD because of the SA results I am not that confident that we are gonna catch that eggie this month. I feel so upset and frustrated about it but there is nothing we can do huh.

    Oh well after giving you far TMI I will be off, just thought I would pop in to see if anyone is around.

    Love Mel (the yet again unsuccessful one!)

    P.S. Lynn - I am still thinking of you and hoping you are doing ok

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    Goodmorning everyone!

    LYnn: thinking of you and hoping you are feeling okay this morning. One more sleep until you see your specialist. Come in and chat today - if you feel up to it...

    Mel: :hugs: I am sorry that the deed wasn't such a successs. Remember that you only need one sperm so hopefully you got the "one" in there and that was all that was needed.
    Remember that when you get a positive opk you will ovulate within 12-24 hours usually (the outside is 36 hours). Also remember that sperm can live in fertile mucous for a couple of days - potentially up to 5 days but if TTC they say it's best to assume 48 hours of survival. This is why specialists will say to only dtd second daily. The most important thing is for sperm to be there waiting when you ovulate. An ovum will live for up to 24 hours but if TTC it's best to assume only 12 hours. There is a slight increase in success rates for cycles (both iui and natural) where insemination occurs the day before ovulation. So, you have a great chance even without last nights events! I hope so much Mel that this is your month - it WILL happen I just hope it's sooner rather than later. The waiting is so very hard, I know...

    Well our bd fest is over! As you know I was triggered on Friday so I ovulated somewhere around 36 hours later - I think it may have been late on Saturday - I had some pretty intesnse ovulatory pains on both sides. Yesterday and today still very bloated and congested but to a lesser degree than the previous week. We DTD each night - I have always followed that regime with success for us - I just that it worked this month. I have a busy week so hopefully the next 10-12 days will go quickly.
    I have a friend coming this morning - a group of us are making a quilt for a friend who is going to Canada for a year. We are each making 3 blocks - it will look beautiful when it's all put together - everyone's different work.
    This afternoon it's the park with some other friends - so I will pop back in the middle of the day when the kidlets have a kip.

    Have a great day everyone!

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    Hi everyone, hope your weekend was a great one

    Lynn: big love being sent to you and hope that it finds you safe

    Mel: Am no expert (obv.!) but there must be shed loads of little swimmers in your DH's sperm (even in the amount 'deposited') and like Flower says, you only need the one!! Here's hoping this is the month for you xxx

    Flower: Here's wishing the TTW flies past for you, and that success is yours too this month The quilt sounds gorgeous - will it come as a surprise for your friend?? What a lovely present to receive.

    Off to put some bread on and to tidy around before (i) the littleys wake from their naps and (ii) the grumpy teenager emerges from his pit and (iii) the jibberjabber makes my ears bleed with his constant gabble (roll on Term 2!!!)

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    Popping in to send a big hug to Lynn

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    Hiya ladies, boy it has been quiet in here, I blame my absence on my darn head ache which thank God decided to bugger off today.

    Lynn: I know tomorrow is a big day for you at the FS. I hope you get some answers and perhaps even an appology for the care provided so far. Don't let them feel like you are being rushed, take all the time you need and ask the questions you want. I hope you to come out of their either with an adequate expanation and a plan to move forward, or having made a decision to move on. Take care my sweets. :hugs:

    Mel: No worries about the TMI info alert, I believe I was discussing my bowel movements with you on the weekend so there is not barriers here babe (lol). I think I might know what you are talking about with the misguided boys, the same thing has happened to DH and I, especially when things get a bit hot and heavy, as Deb said, it only takes one babe so don't feel like this month is a lost cause. Also, as Deb said, the you did previoulsy seems to be right on the mark. Remember, when I conceived Lil Spring DH and I didn't DTD for the day I was meant to O because we were in different states so it must have been the swimmers in there from the day or so before that did the job.

    Deb: OMG, you seriously sound like the best friend on the face of the planet!!! what a wonderful idea making a quilt for your friend, I am sure she will treasure it always.

    Well work is going crazy, we have so many new cases coming in and these things go for months or years so I really have to tell work soon because I will have to hand over so much work to whoever replaces me while I'm on leave. I am aiming to do it next Friday at 19 weeks, I know they will be really supportive but I think it is going to be an emotional day.

    On the MIL update, I got a call from DH's Aunty today (MIL's sister), she is going to be in Sydney on Friday and surprise surprise, wants to catch up for a girly night (whatever that means) She is here for work (lives in Melbourne) about once a fortnight and all of a sudden wants to catch up, she has never even called me before. I gave her the benefit of the doubt and said yes, but it seems very contrived to me and a bit of a fact finding mission. Never mind, I might be surprised and she actually wants to catch up but the sceptic in me detects a more sinister reason. And if she starts on me, she will get my wrath, I tell you now.

    Anyway, dinner smells like it's almost done.

    Be back soon to say hi to everyone else.

    Big Love
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    Hi Girlies -

    Yeah it has been quiet in here huh - noone loves us anymore

    Thanks Deb, Alex and Spring for not making me feel too stupid about the less than perfect sexual experience LOL. I really hope you are all right and that the deeds that were done prior will be enough to work. We did it again last night as it was technically CD14 so better to be safe, and fortunately all ran smoothly this time! So we will leave it tonight and maybe give it one more go tomorrow for old times sake. DH still doesnt know that I got the OPKs so I think he has felt pretty relaxed about everything, well as much as possible cause he kinda does know my cycle but I have pretended that I am not too stressed about it so I guess that helps him. Anyway, enough of the dirty talk ...

    Spring - Probably a good idea to tell work soon and I am sure they will be so happy for you. Besides you are really not going to be able to hide it all that much longer and you would probably be best to tell everyone before you become the talk around the water cooler - you know... is she, isnt she? It does a bit sus about the aunty but what can you do, innocent until proven guilty I guess. I hope for your sake she really does just want to catch up and a nice night. Maybe if she brings up anything about MIL just cut her off and tell her point blank I dont want to discuss it, lets just have a nice time.

    Deb - I agree with Spring you must be the bestest friend, you always do so much for them... wish there were more people in my life so selfless. I noticed your new location, very clever - funny though, I am living just around the corner from you now LOL.

    Alex - Are your kids not back at school yet? I thought today was the first day of term 2? But then what would I know LOL.

    Hey, has anyone heard from Lynn? I dont want to call her cause I dont want to be too pushy you know but I am just really worried about her, I hate the thought of her feeling alone and all. Oh well, if she doesnt pop in after her appointment tomorrow I might have to at least send her a text message to put my mind at ease.

    Lynn - If you do pop in and read this I hope you are ok and that your appointment is ok tomorrow. I too hope you get a HUGE apology for the F*** UP and mainly just that you get some answers you are looking for. When you feel up to it pop in and let us know how you are

    Hey, I wonder if Bailey got that BFP or not? Cant wait to find out.

    ***WARNING!!! VERY LONG VENT ABOUT THE EX WIFE FOLLOWING***

    Well I will be hanging around on the computer tonight. DH is doing BAS (oopsie, its a bit late) and I am going to write a letter on DHs behalf to CSA because his B**** of an ex-wife is disputing his child support payments. In the past he has always worked as a contractor but has recently taken a staff position so that he can have holidays off with the kids and get paid for it, because when they spend the weeks with us he still has to pay her despite the fact we also have to support them for that time. And as a contractor he obviously only gets paid for the time he works so we just couldnt afford to do it. It was getting to the point that he had to decide whether he takes a staff job or stops having the kids on school holidays, which obviously is not fair of anyone especially the kis. So anyway, because staff jobs are paid less than contract work his income has gone down and she has disputed it claiming it is unfair on her and that she should be paid based on his "earning capacity" rather than his actual income! Does anyone else think this woman is as crazy as I do? I mean so is she saying that, for example, if he earnt 100K one year (I wish) and then only 50K the next that he would have to pay based on the fact he is earning double the income and therefore double the payments to her? Does she think we dont have to eat and pay bills too? Part of her complaint is that I work full time as a nurse (where she got that from I have no idea but I am certainly not a nurse) and that should be taken into account and be included in his annual income - hello!!! they are not my children, I dont get the joy of being "Mum", so why should a percentage of my wage go to her?; and also she says that as the children get older they become more expensive to look after - this is true but if she actually researched her facts she will find that after the age of 12 he is made to pay more for the children than when they are under 12; another point she has made is that because of the little amount she get from him ($900 per month - 33% of his wage in fact) she is forced to work 32 hours per week to support the children - does she think most families these days dont have 2 working parents?; SHE pays for all of the day-to-day living expenses of the children including travel, accomodation, schooling, and food - well I dont know what DHs child support money goes towards but as far as I was aware it was supposed to contribute to all of those things, nevermind the fact that when they stay with us we have to provide clothing (which she does not provide to us) and food and not only that, what is not taken into account is that we also have to provide accomodation for them, with 3 children living here every 2nd weekend and half of all holidays we can hardly live in a 1 bedroom flat can we? no we have to provide a house big enough to accomodate everyone and in turn more costly. She seems to think it is her god given right to be supported by DH forever so that she doesnt have to work. Our argument is that while he is definitely responsible for his children, he is not responsible for supporting her and also that she chose to have children as well so surely she has some financial responibility towards them as well?

    Anyway, sorry for going on about it but it really makes me heated. DH says he doesnt care about it cause he knows there is nothing she can do, as far as CSA are concerned they only take into account what your income is at the present time but they have to at least humour her by asking for our response. I swear this woman seriously needs to get a life and move on. I will feel alot better after the writing the letter, I already feel a little better having got it off my chest in here. Again, sorry to put you through that LOL.

    Signed,

    The 2nd wife (Mel)

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    It does feel like noone loves us - I agree Mel!

    I too am worried about Lynn - no contact today - I hope you are okay Lynn and I will be with you all the way tomorrow. I do hope you can come in and let us know how you are - we are all here for you.

    Mel: It sounds like you really did the right thing about not being too open about the opk's. The ex wife sounds like an ongoing challenge my love. Writing things down really does help - I hope you feel better after your letter. LOL at us being neighbours - I do believe you are RIGHT! Let's that this is the last 2ww we have for a very very long time!

    Alex: I hope your day was good. I also hope that bleed stops for you soon. After my first Angel's D&C I bled for a bit over 2 weeks on and off. It became very tiresome. If there is no offensive smell or clots it's very probably "normal" and will run it's course. :hugs: to you my love I understand the need to have it all over so you can begin to heal and the next part of your journey...

    Spring: I just cannot believe you are 19 weeks next week! Oh wow that's just so so wonderful - half way! I know how long these 19 weeks have felt and you have dealt with things so beautifully. You are an inspiration. I think it's great to "come out" at work - it's time to let Lil Spring be public knowledge! Yep I smell a MIL fish as well!!! I hope it goes okay - I will think of you.

    Well we had a busy but nice day today. We got all the blocks cut out for our friendship quilt. There are about 6 of us making it so we are all doing some blocks each and then a friend who quilts will quilt it up. It's fun to do and such a nice way for her to remember we love her and miss her! She's a psychiatrist off for an adventure with her hubby and kidlets in the land of the moose! It's very exciting but we will miss her heaps. This afternoon at the park was nice - a coffee with a friend while the kids have a play is always nice.
    On a very domestic note - I got a slow cooker on the weekend! I must say lovelies they are just a wonderful invention! It was cooking all day and turned up a delicious dinner! I am in love!

    Well I hope our friends all come back or we will get very lonely.... Nat, Lynn, Chelle, Tommysmum, Bailey - news anything?????

    I need to go and have a shower and read some papers. DH is at a late meeting so it's just me and Pat the cat on the couch! Poor DH is exhausted from the BD fest!
    Nighty night and I will "see" you in the morning!

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    Hi everyone,

    Thank you to Mel, Deb and Kristy for thinking of me and I'm sorry if I have made you worry by not being around. I just had to work a few things out.

    I have come to a decision and that is that I can't worry about things that are out of my control. So that is exactly what I am going to do - I am going to just worry about myself and get to my dream any way I can. My dream is too important to put on hold for a while and Deb you right, it doesn't matter when I am TTC, I will always be grieving for Cooper. I am prepared to grieve for my little man and TTC, but I don't have enough energy for anything else (except support you girls!)

    I spent the day in bed yesterday and I'm not sure I feel any better for it, but at the time it felt good. I got a lot of my chest and a lot of tears shed. So today I woke up with a different attitude.................a positive attitude!

    I decided that I couldn't wait until tomorrow to speak with my FS so I tracked him down and eventually got hold of him. I told him that I was frustrated and disappointed. I said that I have paid to be monitored this cycle and I don't feel like I have been monitored correctly. I explained to him about the first u/s and being told there are follies and then a week later nothing. He said that because of my hormone levels being so low they wouldn't have been able to support the follies so it is likely that they died off. I also spoke to him about him saying that it is unlikely that I will ovulate this month and therefore prescribe Provera and told me that I would have a period within a week. I said that I didn't so I called the nurses and they said to have a bt. I said the bt came back saying that I ovulated. I told him that this was potentially a missed chance of falling pregnant. He said that my body didn't respond to Clomid so my body ovulated on his own (OMG! It actually did what it is supposed to!!!!!!! Pity it was so bl**dy late) I told him that I feel like I am on a roller-coaster and getting a lot of different info doesn't help. I am new to this and I rely on the info from professionals and I just don't feel like I have got it. He told me that he thought the critisism was a bit harsh as he believes he did everything he could for me. He said that he makes decisions at the time and he believes he made the best decision for me at the time because there were no follies and it was so late in my cycle. I told him that I feel like I have lost faith and trust in his staff and he said that he wants me to trust him as he is doing everything possible to help me. He said that we have a plan for the next cycle, we just need AF to arrive. So it is still the waiting game. He has told me that I can call him at any time if I don't understand something and he will go through it with me.

    Mel, you are right, I need this TTC journey. It is what gets me out of bed every day. If I didn't have to inject myself, or have BT or u/s and eat a plate full of pills each day I don't know what I would do.

    DH and I have decided that we will continue this journey and will remain positive and put our trust and faith into my FS (although we are going to go to a different clinic with machines that aren't so old!) We have decided that we need to put all our energy into this. It is time to look after #1.

    Thank you so much Nat for everything over the past few days - you are a lifesaver

    Thanks to you girls too for thinking of me and I appreciate all the hugs. Sending heaps of back. Your support is wonderful and what gets me through each day

    Sorry for no personals now - I will be back later.

    luv & hugs
    Lynn
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    Lynn - I am so glad you got to speak to your FS and that you are feeling positive today I am so happy you have decided to continue TTC, I didnt want to say to much so as to not try to "persuade" you but I was seriously worried about how you would cope without all the stuff, as crap and hard as it is to go through. I said after this month I was gonna give up but yeah right, like that is gonna happen - I like you rely on it! Have you decided if you tell other than you are not TTC anymore or are you just gonna leave things the way they are? I am so pleased to hear you say you are only going to worry about yourself, you are right - everyone else can look after themselves - you guys worry about each othe and dont lose sight of your dreams, and you will get there... when I dont know but persistence is the key

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    That's wonderful news Lynn. I am so glad you are feeling so much better. GOOD ON YOU for tracking down your doctor. Do you feel more empowered for being able to talk to him? I bet you do!

    It sounds like from here on in you will get better treatment - he has heard how you felt and now you can start again. Are you still going to see him in person tomorrow?
    Lots of big hugs to you!

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    Lynn: It is great to hear from you. I think you made the right decision continuing TTC but a decision that you needed to come to in your own time. I am also glad that you gave your FS a talking to and that he realises how much his actions affect your life and Dh's life. It is great that you will be able to speak to him personally whenever you need to. I am sorry you spent yesterday in bed crying, but it seems like that is what you needed to give you a chance to re-focus and build up your emotional stores to continue on this journey. I am very proud of you. Big

    Mel: I'll write a complete reply about DH's ex wife tomorrow but boy does she seem to be pushing the limit of what is reasonable. It is so much more important that DH can spend time with his kids and that is worth so much more than a few extra bucks a month. I hope she comes to her senses soon and realises that those kiddies are the number 1 priority. Hopefully it gets sorted soon, you don't need the stress.

    Deb: I know what you mean about the slow cooker, there is actually a slow cooker thread somewhere which you should check out. I make an awesome apricot chicken in the slow cooker, takes 10 hours but it is worth every minute. Ohh and the house smells so nice when it is on. You'll have to share your recepies, I would love to know your favourites.

    Well, off to bed for me.

    Big day at work tomorrow (yet again) so I need my sleep.

    Take care my sweeties.

    Lv Spring

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    Mel - you and I are unlike in so many ways. We need to have this TTC journey. It is what gets us through. And eventually through all the pain and tears we will get our BFP..............it is just going to take time. Not sure about telling my mum about TTC. I just don't think I could lie to her.

    Deb - it was so good to get everything off my chest and tell my FS how I was feeling. At least he knows how I feel and I'm sure I will get a much more personal response from him in the future. I think he will be keeping a lot closer eye on my progress and informing me on important info because I'm sure he doesn't want another phone like today from me. No I am not seeing him tomorrow. I couldn't get an appointment with him all week but they were going to get him to call me tomorrow. I just couldn't wait for tomorrow and had to have answers today.

    Spring - Yes I have had a chance to re-focus and see what is important to me. I have had a dream for 3 years now and I am so desperate to get that dream, that I will try as hard as I can and do whatever it takes to get there.

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    Hi All, hope you don't mind me jumping in and joining you. This is the first time I have posted on this board but I think I need to make the move over as I could really do with all the support possible.

    I got the all clear at the end of Feb to ttc after loosing Jemma in September, we wanted to wait to see the consultant just in case, as we have no reasons for Jemmas' passing. I don't live in the same country as my Gynea, hence the long wait to see him! Well we missed the first cycle as we were traveling and life was hectic - right around ov time. This month we may or may not have hit the right time because DF had mild food poisoning and then was too tired the last two nights! Now it is too late by all accounts, so I don't expect to get the BFP this month - although there is always a little bit of hope!

    Anyway, that is my ttc journey thus far! Jemma was an accident so I never had this to go through in any form before, it is all so new.

    I hope those of you who have been trying so a while get you BFP's soon, and those having problems get the correct support and advise that you need.

    Thanks for listening, chat soon
    Sarah

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    Morning everyone

    Have been up for ages watching Aus thrashing Sri Lanka, although obv. NZ will beat Aus in the final - tee hee!!! (sorry, we are all cricket fanatics in our family - just embarrassed England have ****ed up YET again!!) but didn't want to pop in earlier in case I looked too hooked (ha!!)

    Sarah: so very glad to have you with us, just sad you are needing to xxx

    LYNN: Thank heavens you posted, I am SO glad you decided to carry on TTC - boy, you really gave the FS some didn't you - way to go you!! Yay!! You motivated ME with that post I can tell you!

    Flower: I am off shopping today for a Slow Cooker - used to have one years ago had to be ditched when DH tried heating the inside dish on the hob and cracked it!!! (Actually, this may have been me and I am using poetic licence to disguise my lack of 'domestic goddess' ness!!!

    Mel: OMG what is that woman on???? In UK, the CSA calculate maintenance using something called 'shared care' - do Aus not have this then or do they not take into account holidays?? I cannot believe they make no allowance for how many days a year you have them - that is so wrong! Write to your MP immediately - go on the CSA-UK website and get all the info on shared care discount - make a case! Oh she has made me SO - this is so unjust. Sorry to rant but it is - she is spending all her energy on 'punishing' your DH for being happy with you when, of course, the children should be her focus - my friend's ex did this and his daughter is now old enough to know what went on and can see what her mother became. Very very sad. As if you don't have enough to get through, oooh she has made me mad!

    Spring: hope you aren't pushing yourself too much at work, only 21 weeks ish to go!!!! I am also a tad suspicious about the AIL - hmmm! Me thinks she has been dispatched by the Enemy Camp!!! Keep us posted!!

    No news here, apart from I took the littlies to the GP for their Meng B imms yesterday and the Practice Nurse said I may still be bleeding because my haem. dropped so low, it has been know. (was 152, dropped to 94, is now 126) said should stop very shortly. Thanks Flower, can confirm no smell, clots, pain, high temp etc - so am sitting it out.

    OMG you panciked me Mel - have just been on the school website, in the 2007 prospectus it says 16th April, in the diaries it says 16th April , on the website it says....23rd April. Phew!!! Also, we live on the same street as the school (although much further along) and there have been no kids walking up. Otherwise I may think my Christopher was giving it a tug!!! He is 'a teenager' - (sympathy welcome!!)

    Much love to all, have a good day, I'll be in and out - stalking for good news!!!

    Alex
    xxxx

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